[BaselineGod]

Djokovic

1. Lost to Federer in straights in USO 2007 Final.
2. Lost to Murray in straights in Wimbledon 2013 Final
3. Lost to Nadal in straights in RG 2020 Final.

Not a bash thread, but coincidentally he lost to each one of them in different slams. And obviously he didn't lose to finals in AO in straights, because he hasn't even lost a final there.

Nadal

1. Lost to Djokovic in AO 2019 in straights.

Federer.
1. Lost to Nadal 2008 in Straights.

Murray.

1. Lost to Federer in USO 2008 and AO 2010 in Straights.
2. Lost to Djokovic in AO 2011 and AO 2015 in straights.

So, Andy registers 4 straight-set loses, More than any other member of the Big4, but non coming from Nadal because they never ever played a slam final between each other

 

[VamosRafa123]

That loss of Djokovic to Murray in Wim13 was the most shocking loss of Novak.

 

[WeakestTennisEra]

That loss of Djokovic to Murray in Wim13 was the most shocking loss of Novak.

Not really. Djokovic was not that good in 2013. He was in a slump most of the second half of the season. Plus, he was coming from a tight 5 setter against Del Potro. Also he has a better H2H record against Djokovic on grass. He was the better grass courter, but didn't achieve as much on grass as Nole. Probably running into peaking Federer often.

 

[I'm all in]

Big 4? I just know Big 3.

 

[srk9425]

Nice Information

 

[SithLord]

Pre-2015 Murray was a better grass court player. Djokovic became better after Becker joined his team. So its not surprising Murray had beaten him twice in straights on grass.

 

[VamosRafa123]

Not really. Djokovic was not that good in 2013. He was in a slump most of the second half of the season. Plus, he was coming from a tight 5 setter against Del Potro. Also he has a better H2H record against Djokovic on grass. He was the better grass courter, but didn't achieve as much on grass as Nole. Probably running into peaking Federer often.

Still he was pretty good in RG 13 and USO 13
And in the final Murray didn't played in some amazing level.. sure Novak could have lost but not 3-0.

 

[WeakestTennisEra]

Still he was pretty good in RG 13 and USO 13
And in the final Murray didn't played in some amazing level.. sure Novak could have lost but not 3-0.

Well he wasn't that good in USO , he lost his only HC slam meeting to Nadal since his worst year(2010). Prior to that he beat him in USO 11 and AO 12.

FO 13 he was great I agree. But generally he was below his normal level that year. He should've lost to Del Potro in the SF.

 

[Tennis cognoscenti king]

That loss of Djokovic to Murray in Wim13 was the most shocking loss of Novak.

Not at all: Murray is by far the superior grass court player as the 2012 Olympics and 2013 Wimbledon prove. Both straight set beatdowns. Djokovic cites the Olympic defeat to Murray as the most painful of his career, and the defeat to Murray he'd most like to expunge from the record. Not the slam finals or WTF final defeats to Murray.

 

[Lukasgigler]

in 2013 Murray had basically a bye to the finals because both fed and nadal who were in his half crashed out early. Adding a dire unclutch djoker that slam really was a gift of the gods after losing to a subpar slightly injured federer a year earlier

 

[Tennis cognoscenti king]

in 2013 Murray had basically a bye to the finals because both fed and nadal who were in his half crashed out early. Adding a dire unclutch djoker that slam really was a gift of the gods after losing to a subpar slightly injured federer a year earlier

Murray beat them both at the Olympics in straights on centre court a year earlier. Federer's defeat was the second heaviest best of five defeat in his career (after the 08 French Open final). Djokovic has never won a set on grass against Murray. He's never even forced a tie break.

 

[Lukasgigler]

Murray beat them both at the Olympics in straights on centre court a year earlier. Federer's defeat was the second heaviest best of five defeat in his career (after the 08 French Open final). Djokovic has never won a set on grass against Murray. He's never even forced a tie break.

Federer was dead after the longest 3 set match of all time against delp. That loss was inevitable from the start. The final score was shocking however.
Murray never beat federer at Wimbledon and got lucky to dodge him twice there Especially in 2016 when he choked against Raonic. Ive always favoured federer in a hypothetical final there and I stand by that statement

 

[Tennis cognoscenti king]

erer in a hypothetical final there and I stand by that statement

Federer was shocking in 2016. Murray proved he would have beat him by destroying his conqueror in straights at Wimbledon and in the Queens final in 2016.Federer just got outplayed in 2012 by an inspired Murray; that's all there is too it. Murray beat Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer without losing a set that tournament. He peaked.

 

[bbcbbc]

And Fedal are the only top players that weren’t good enough to play each other in the US Open, in any round.
They’re also the only ones to have the easiest draws in Slams, as the media kept calling them the huge, entertaining and best rivals. Nadal didn’t show up to fight after a long time because he knew he’d get trounced at the US Open and Australian Open. Fedal waited until Djoker was injured and had surgery so that they could pat himselves on the backs. They knew they were lucky in 2007-2009 too. Djoker was young and so lethargic back then.

 

[Fp87]

And fed is the only of the big 3 to have lost 4 finals in his best slam. Rafa never lost a final at FO and neither novak at AO.

 

[bbcbbc]

Murray beat them both at the Olympics in straights on centre court a year earlier. Federer's defeat was the second heaviest best of five defeat in his career (after the 08 French Open final). Djokovic has never won a set on grass against Murray. He's never even forced a tie break.

Djoker was in a slump in 2012-2013. He was not a grass player, even though his high standards led to the ‘11 Wimbledon title.

 

[Servebots=GOAT]

Federer was shocking in 2016. Murray proved he would have beat him by destroying his conqueror in straights at Wimbledon and in the Queens final in 2016.Federer just got outplayed in 2012 by an inspired Murray; that's all there is too it. Murray beat Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer without losing a set that tournament. He peaked.

Not really how things work cause every player is different with a different style. Murray never had what it takes to beat Fed in a slam final. As for the olympics, Murray played very well but it goes without saying Federer was completely destroyed from the Delpo match.

 

[phase3]

That loss of Djokovic to Murray in Wim13 was the most shocking loss of Novak.

Dont agree. Murray was ON FIRE THAT DAY. I dont care who was in front of Murray that day..They would have been obliterated. It's the best BY FAR he ever played. He was a man on a mission from the moment Federer beat him at the 2012 Wimbledon final. And he anihilated Federer himself a few weeks later in the Olympic tennis final. The British people expected him to win Wimbledon..AND HE DELIVERED TWICE.

And he would have given Federer a similar thrashing in straight sets that day in 2013..Murray at his best could thrash ANYONE. His problem was he couldnt do it often enough. He is like Wawrinka in that respect. They were both capable of thrashing anyone when they hit GOD MODE. But they couldnt do it often enough. Or both would have been in double figures for slams.

 

[phase3]

Federer was shocking in 2016. Murray proved he would have beat him by destroying his conqueror in straights at Wimbledon and in the Queens final in 2016.Federer just got outplayed in 2012 by an inspired Murray; that's all there is too it. Murray beat Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer without losing a set that tournament. He peaked.

Murray was INCREDIBLE at his BEST. He just couldnt bring it OFTEN enough just like Wawrinka. But when he hit GOD MODE. He could anihilate anyone. Make them look like nothing. No other player ever Beat Federer 6/1 6/2 6/4 on centre court..That's the thrashing Murray handed Federer in the 2012 Olympic final. A year later he gave Djokovic a similar beating in straight sets.

 

[DjoWilliSongovic]

Sorry, but Murray and God mode in the same sentence is a travesty (with this context being the only exception). 2016 Murray would have lost to Djoker at Wimbledon, but Djoker had an off day and got into a hole against the Querrey serve. Fed was injured during the Cilic match and Raonic is Raonic, not exactly a consistent player and in his first GS final.

2013 Murray was probably peak Murray, but it was more Djoker having an off year plus the punishing semi-final he played against Delpo before drawing Murray in the Final. It was very even going into that final based on the vulnerability Djoker showed, and he had lost to Murray at the USO Final the year before. I don't know how people believe that was a huge upset. They were neck and neck as the two best players in the world with Rafa and Fed becoming more and more one dimensional at that stage in their respective careers.