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2004 federer domination with 3 slams
2005 federer domination with 2 slams
2006 federer domination with 3 slams
2007 federer domination with 3 slams
2008 NAdal Domination with 2 slams + Olympic Gold
2009 Federer Domination with 2 slams
2010 Nadal Domination with 3 slams
2011 Djokovic domination with 3 slams and 5 m1000
2012 Big 4 Domination
2013 Nadal Domination with 2 slams and 5 m1000
2014 No domination at the moment, depends who wins USO (wether its wawrinka, Nadal or Djokovic) if someone else wins It will be a shared year...
 

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If you objectively viewed this year, Djokovic has been the best player by quite a bit. The only real fail was his mental fragility in his Wawrinka AO match. If he didn't get sick, he would have taken RG as well.

At least you admitted that Federer dominated tennis for more years than Dull did, or ever will.

As for Djokovic, he technically didn't dominate the season with one slam, but his form is good enough for it. And he is the favourite for USO, so...
 

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If you objectively viewed this year, Djokovic has been the best player by quite a bit. The only real fail was his mental fragility in his Wawrinka AO match. If he didn't get sick, he would have taken RG as well.

At least you admitted that Federer dominated tennis for more years than Dull did, or ever will.

As for Djokovic, he technically didn't dominate the season with one slam, but his form is good enough for it. And he is the favourite for USO, so...
Djokovic has only himself to blame. He should have dominated since 2011 but fell in love and now is a dad ... so it's tough. As far as Rafa, I am very impressed by him. He has dominated the sport of running since 2006
 

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Djokovic has only himself to blame. He should have dominated since 2011 but fell in love and now is a dad ... so it's tough. As far as Rafa, I am very impressed by him. He has dominated the sport of running since 2006
Very true. Djokovic has been amazing since 2011. Put aside some horrific chokes and unfortunate delays and injuries - he absolutely had the form to eclipse Dull and be above 13 slams today.

As far as Dull is concerned, he dominates clay and Roger (match-up advantage). Nothing else. His running peak was 2008 and then competition was weak in 2010.
 

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Very true. Djokovic has been amazing since 2011. Put aside some horrific chokes and unfortunate delays and injuries - he absolutely had the form to eclipse Dull and be above 13 slams today.

As far as Dull is concerned, he dominates clay and Roger (match-up advantage). Nothing else. His running peak was 2008 and then competition was weak in 2010.
I like Nole but regardless of how he lost those matches, I can't forgive him. Losing to Rafa at USO last year? I mean that was really rough. And he barely won Wimbledon this year, even though Roger clearly was not having his way at all.

Who knows. Nole needs to beat Rafa in some slams for me to start believing in him again. I am not sure he would have won Wimbledon if it was against Rafa. It's not like he is an inferior player. He just chokes at the strangest moments.
 

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:facepalm:

If you objectively viewed this year, Djokovic has been the best player by quite a bit. The only real fail was his mental fragility in his Wawrinka AO match. If he didn't get sick, he would have taken RG as well.

At least you admitted that Federer dominated tennis for more years than Dull did, or ever will.

As for Djokovic, he technically didn't dominate the season with one slam, but his form is good enough for it. And he is the favourite for USO, so...
Obviously federer got gifted 2004 with young headcases like hewitt, roddick, ferrero, safin and nalbandian unfocused and or done... let alone 500 years old agassi.

Nothing to brag about dominating 2004. And his 2005 wasnt that dominant either, he won only 2 slams, and didnt win either olympics (not played that year) or WTF, he won only 4 m1000, so Nadal did better in 2013 than federer in 2005.

We are talking about real facts, and no, despite current 1 spot , its not enough to call djokovic a dominant player of this year, considering there is also other player like nadal who also won a slam and reached the final of other, and lets no forget wawrinka and his AO victory. IF Nole doesnt manage to win a second slam this year it wont be a dominant year for him, no matter how much you want it to be the case.
 

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Very true. Djokovic has been amazing since 2011. Put aside some horrific chokes and unfortunate delays and injuries - he absolutely had the form to eclipse Dull and be above 13 slams today.

As far as Dull is concerned, he dominates clay and Roger (match-up advantage). Nothing else. His running peak was 2008 and then competition was weak in 2010.
Nobody cares about subjetive appreciations because they always end up in the side that you want.

THe only objetivity is that nole only dominated 2011, compared to rafa 2008,2010 and 2013, and federer 2004-2007 and 2009 (although 2004 is a bit unfair because nole wasnt competing and Rafa was extremely young).
If any it should be rafa who could have more slams, because he was competitive at much earlier age that nole, and he didnt figure out how to really contend for HC slams and big tournaments untill half 2008/early 2009.
Nadal also had tennis to beat nole in Australia 2012 and of course beat wawrinka in AO 2014 (but he was unlucky to be injured).
 

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Nobody cares about subjetive appreciations because they always end up in the side that you want.

THe only objetivity is that nole only dominated 2011, compared to rafa 2008,2010 and 2013, and federer 2004-2007 and 2009 (although 2004 is a bit unfair because nole wasnt competing and Rafa was extremely young).
If any it should be rafa who could have more slams, because he was competitive at much earlier age that nole, and he didnt figure out how to really contend for HC slams and big tournaments untill half 2008/early 2009.
Nadal also had tennis to beat nole in Australia 2012 and of course beat wawrinka in AO 2014 (but he was unlucky to be injured).
You just opened a black hole in the fabric of universe with that giant contradiction.
 

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Very true. Djokovic has been amazing since 2011. Put aside some horrific chokes and unfortunate delays and injuries - he absolutely had the form to eclipse Dull and be above 13 slams today.

As far as Dull is concerned, he dominates clay and Roger (match-up advantage). Nothing else. His running peak was 2008 and then competition was weak in 2010.
and the competition in 2011 for nole? having a rafa with twice as much mileage as him? and having a roger already starting to decline? Nole never could be a heavy contender during fedal prime (2005-2010).
 

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and the competition in 2011 for nole? having a rafa with twice as much mileage as him? and having a roger already starting to decline? Nole never could be a heavy contender during fedal prime (2005-2010).
Twice as much mileage? Nadal only started on tour 2 years earlier than Nole, and most of his 2009 and 2012 were out from "injuries" :facepalm:
 

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I like Nole but regardless of how he lost those matches, I can't forgive him. Losing to Rafa at USO last year? I mean that was really rough. And he barely won Wimbledon this year, even though Roger clearly was not having his way at all.

Who knows. Nole needs to beat Rafa in some slams for me to start believing in him again. I am not sure he would have won Wimbledon if it was against Rafa. It's not like he is an inferior player. He just chokes at the strangest moments.
I still have faith in him. Simply because his level is the highest in the ATP, barring chokes and other unlucky scenarios. He just got to stop choking. :lol:


Nobody cares about subjetive appreciations because they always end up in the side that you want.

THe only objetivity is that nole only dominated 2011, compared to rafa 2008,2010 and 2013, and federer 2004-2007 and 2009 (although 2004 is a bit unfair because nole wasnt competing and Rafa was extremely young).
If any it should be rafa who could have more slams, because he was competitive at much earlier age that nole, and he didnt figure out how to really contend for HC slams and big tournaments untill half 2008/early 2009.
Nadal also had tennis to beat nole in Australia 2012 and of course beat wawrinka in AO 2014 (but he was unlucky to be injured).
Nadull was not injured. And stop comparing 2004 to 2010 & 2013. The 2004 field had amazing talents, and while some were headcases - their level when on was unbelievable. The depth of competition was absolutely fierce.


and the competition in 2011 for nole? having a rafa with twice as much mileage as him? and having a roger already starting to decline? Nole never could be a heavy contender during fedal prime (2005-2010).
Federer showed brilliant form in RG, AO, W, and USO. Look at Roger v Novak matches in slams in 2011 and they were very competitive. Who cares about Dull? Roger is a worse match-up for Novak than Dull is.
 

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You talk about objectivity but then subjectively decide that Rafa was at a level to beat Nole at AO or he was going to beat Wawrinka at AO, even though he was fine in the first set. Objectively, Rafa has come up with an injury after every loss. Heck, now his wrist is injured after taking growth medicine for freaky nighttime action or whatever he is into. Lord knows what Rafa does behind the scenes that caused such a severe injury but his fans will be connecting that to his Wimbledon loss in a couple of months. That's not being objective. That's just being an a**. You can expect everyone to be "objective" when you are subjective with everything you have said.
 

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Flip around those finals from 2012/13 that many argue Nole gifted, give him USO 2014, and he's sitting at 4 dominant years

Perspective

Stats :rolleyes:

"Stage Two" thinking in action...

LOL
 

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Twice as much mileage? Nadal only started on tour 2 years earlier than Nole, and most of his 2009 and 2012 were out from "injuries" :facepalm:
9 slams, 18 m1000 and 1 olympic gold vs 1 slam, 5 m1000 and 1 wtf, are you being serious ?

Nadal was going deep in every tournament prior 2011, unlike nole.
 

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I still have faith in him. Simply because his level is the highest in the ATP, barring chokes and other unlucky scenarios. He just got to stop choking. :lol:




Nadull was not injured. And stop comparing 2004 to 2010 & 2013. The 2004 field had amazing talents, and while some were headcases - their level when on was unbelievable. The depth of competition was absolutely fierce.




Federer showed brilliant form in RG, AO, W, and USO. Look at Roger v Novak matches in slams in 2011 and they were very competitive. Who cares about Dull? Roger is a worse match-up for Novak than Dull is.
Lol even the own fed would disagree, fed feels comfortably playing nole, he beat him in Rg 2011 and had marchpoint against nole in USo 2011.

Im sorry but nole is no matchup for fed, wh despite being 6 years younger and having played most matches 2011-2014 still has negative h2h with the swiss.

Rafa is 23-19 and 9-3 in slams against nole, and 23-10 and 9-2 in slams against fed, he is obviously a horrible matchup for both of them.

Numbers dont like, whatever excuses and reasons you wanna make of it. Afterall you are SOUL SEEKER in YOUTUBE a guy who only writes "Nadal is shit" in so many of his videos, then how do you expect we ever take you serious, Clown ?
 

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Flip around those finals from 2012/13 that many argue Nole gifted, give him USO 2014, and he's sitting at 4 dominant years

Perspective



Stats :rolleyes:

"Stage Two" thinking in action...

LOL
Not really, in order to dominate a year you need to win at least two slams. There is no single year in tennis history where a player was considered the dominant one and only winning a single GS in given period.

Only people who dont understand tennis and who never ever picked a tennis racket in their lifetimes love to talk about gifting, choking and luck.
 

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Im calling you out here SOUL SEEKER from YOUTUBE aka Slade.
 

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Im sorry but nole is no matchup for fed, wh despite being 6 years younger and having played most matches 2011-2014 still has negative h2h with the swiss.
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