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At the age of 33y 6m, Novak Djokovic is still the current Youngest Multi-Major winner.
He has set the record for being the oldest, youngest multi-major winner by far.
Novak Djokovic became the then current youngest multi-major winner at the AO in 2011 at the age of 23y 8m.
At the 2021 AO, he will have held that distinction for 10 years.

Before Novak, the youngest multi-major winner was RAFA who won his second major at RG in 2006 at the age of 20.
So when Novak supplanted him in 2011, RAFA had held the distinction for only 3y 7m.

Roger became a multi-major winner at the AO in 2004 at the age of 23y 5m.
So when RAFA supplanted him in 2006, Roger had held the distinction, only 2y 4m.

Here is the list of the Open Era's youngest multi-slam winners and how long they have held the distinction.
(age in months is approx. Please let me know if you see any major errors/omissions )

*ongoing current holder

Name..............(#majors].....BirthDate,,,..2ndMajorDate,,,.Age First held.....Age Last held......Length of Time held.
Novak Djokovic......[17].........19870522.........A.20110130.............23y 8m................33y 6m*..................9y 10m*
Rafael Nadal..........[20].........19860603.........F..20060611.............20y 0m................24y 7m...................4y 7m
Roger Federer.......[20].........19810808.........A.20040201.............22y 5m................24y 10m..................2y 5m
Lleyton Hewitt........[02].........19810224........W.20020707.............21y 4m................22y 11m..................1y 7m
Gustavo Kuerten...[03].........19760910.........F..20000611.............23y 9m................25y 10m..................2y 1m
Patrick Rafter........[02].........19721228.........U.19980913.............25y 8m................27y 5m....................1y 9m
Pete Sampras.......[14].........19710812........W.19930704.............21y11m...............27y1m.....................5y 2m
Jim Courier............[04].........19700817.........A.19920126.............21y5m.................22y11m...................1y 6m
Boris Becker..........[06].........19671127........W.19860706.............18y7m.................24y2m.....................5y 7m
Mats Wilander........[07].........19640822.........A.19831211.............19y3m.................21y10m...................2y 7m
John McEnroe........[07].........19590216........U.19800907.............21y7m.................24y10m....................3y3m
Bjorn Borg..............[11].........19560606........F..19750615.............19y0m.................24y3m......................5y3m
Jimmy Connors.....[08].........19520902........W.19740706.............21y10m...............22y9m......................0y11m
Stan Smith.............[02].........19461214........W.19720709.............25y6m................27y6m.......................2y0m
Jan Kodes..............[03].........19460301........F..19710606.............25y3m.................26y4m......................1y1m
John Newcombe....[07].........19440523........U.19670910+...........23y3m.................27y0m......................3y9m

+ Newcombe won his 2nd major in Sept 1967 at the US National Championships, just prior to start of the Open Era., so I included him since 5 of his 7 were in the Open Era

4 won their 2nd major at the AO, 4 at the FO, 5 at Wimbledon, 3 at the US Open (or NatChamp)

The tour has simply been missing high quality younger multi-major winning players in the past decade, not even talking great (6 or more majors)..

Hopefully we will see one or two new multi-major winners next year.
So called LostGen's (1990-1994) only major winner (Thiem) has the best chance, but my guess is that he will have a short-lived reign as the youngest.
Then we will have to look to the so-called NextGen (1995-1999) to produce the next youngest multi-major winner.
But it might be that Y2KGen (2000-2004), might produce the next great multi-major winner.

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Nice list :)
Both Murray and Wawrinka became multi-slam winners, but are older than Djokovic (just a few days in Murray's case). Would be funny if either Del Potro or Cilic win their 2nd slam before Thiem. Not realistic though :LOL:

Small correction: In January 2011 Rafa was 24y 7 m old and had held this title for 4y 7m

Correction #2: Sampras is younger than both Brugera and Agassi. So he held the title from June 1993 till August 1998 (Rafter)

Correction #3: In June 1971 Jan Kodeš won his 2nd slam. He's 2 years younger than Newcombe, so he took the title. In June 1972 he lost it against Stan Smith.

Maybe you could add a birthday column?
 

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Nice list :)
Both Murray and Wawrinka became multi-slam winners, but are older than Djokovic (just a few days in Murray's case). Would be funny if either Del Potro or Cilic win their 2nd slam before Thiem. Not realistic though :LOL:

Small correction: In January 2011 Rafa was 24y 7 m old and had held this title for 4y 7m

Correction #2: Sampras is younger than both Brugera and Agassi. So he held the title from June 1993 till August 1998 (Rafter)

Correction #3: In June 1971 Jan Kodeš won his 2nd slam. He's 2 years younger than Newcombe, so he took the title. In June 1972 he lost it against Stan Smith.

Maybe you could add a birthday column?
Corrected for truth as suggested, and bd column added. Multi-Thanks. :)

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Pretty wild stat. Though I expect Thiem to take this next year or 2022 the latest
Yes, I don't expect Thiem to hold it for long though, and he better not wait too long. ;). Some NextGenner like Medvedev might cut it short or even prevent Thiem from getting it first. For example, if Medvedev wins 2021 AO and 2021 USO. Probably Delpo would have already done it, if not for all the wrist surgeries, and lately knee issues.

If a player in Sinner's Y2K generation does it, then he'll put LostGen & NextGen all to shame. But he hasn't even come close to winning 1 major, much less multiple, so we can't get ahead of ourselves and must wait and see.

It's been almost 10 years though, where no younger player has exploded onto the scene, and the Big 3 have taken advantage. But finally, Father Time and Mother Nature will eventually stop the Big 3, if nobody else can. :)

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Added the 2ndMajorDate column - 1st letter of the 2nd major won (A, F, W, U) and date of win for more transparency.

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Yes, I don't expect Thiem to hold it for long though, and he better not wait too long. ;). Some NextGenner like Medvedev might cut it short or even prevent Thiem from getting it first. For example, if Medvedev wins 2021 AO and 2021 USO. Probably Delpo would have already done it, if not for all the wrist surgeries, and lately knee issues.

If a player in Sinner's Y2K generation does it, then he'll put LostGen & NextGen all to shame. But he hasn't even come close to winning 1 major, much less multiple, so we can't get ahead of ourselves and must wait and see.

It's been almost 10 years though, where no younger player has exploded onto the scene, and the Big 3 have taken advantage. But finally, Father Time and Mother Nature will eventually stop the Big 3, if nobody else can. :)

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The lost Gen is already in shame ! but gotcha , soon they'll get the nail in the coffin since there is no proof they can change their fate

Assuming Thiem (and for the purpose of this bashing) do not belong there and only players applying are 89'-92' born
 

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Thanks for this analysis. One point to add: the number of slams won by the multiple slam winners quite directly correlates with their number of slams won, with the exceptions of Federer (in red) and Nadal (in green), see Figure below (the line is the regression line including all players, also Fedal).
This can have two reasons: i) a multiple slam winner makes it more difficult for younger players to win multiple slams as well, or ii) the presence of younger multiple slam winners makes it more difficult for a multiple slam winner to increase his numbers. Most probably it is a combination of both.


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Novak Djokovic became the then current youngest multi-major winner at the AO in 2011 at the age of 23y 8m.

Before Novak, the youngest multi-major winner was RAFA who won his second major at RG in 2006 at the age of 20.
So when Novak supplanted him in 2011, RAFA had held the distinction for only 3y 7m.
Dont understand this statement. So, Rafa became a 2+ slam winner at age of 20, while Novak became multi-major winnder at 23.8 years. How is this supplanting? dont undertand the logic...
 

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Thanks for this analysis. One point to add: the number of slams won by the multiple slam winners quite directly correlates with their number of slams won, with the exceptions of Federer (in red) and Nadal (in green), see Figure below (the line is the regression line including all players, also Fedal).
This can have two reasons: i) a multiple slam winner makes it more difficult for younger players to win multiple slams as well, or ii) the presence of younger multiple slam winners makes it more difficult for a multiple slam winner to increase his numbers. Most probably it is a combination of both.

[snip chart]

Or, with the total absence of younger multiple slam winners, especially in the last 5 years, we can easily see that the older multiple slam winners can keep adding to their totals past their prime.

The norm is that younger multiple slam winners in their prime will eventually stop and overtake the older aging multiple slam winners, but we have a big gap between Novak and some unknown multi-major winner. It seems that it is more LostGen's fault, but even NextGen should have produced major winners by now.

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Dont understand this statement. So, Rafa became a 2+ slam winner at age of 20, while Novak became multi-major winnder at 23.8 years. How is this supplanting? dont undertand the logic...
Novak supplanted or replaced RAFA as the youngest existing multi-major winner at that time (Jan 2011). Novak was 23y 8m, while RAFA was already 24y 7m.

Now Novak, at age 33 6m, is still the youngest existing multi-major winner.

Or to put it another way, no player born after Novak, has yet won multiple majors. That became true on 30th of January 2011 when Novak won his second major, and is still true today, so far. :)

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Novak supplanted or replaced RAFA as the youngest existing multi-major winner at that time (Jan 2011). Novak was 23y 8m, while RAFA was already 24y 7m.

Now Novak, at age 33 6m, is still the youngest existing multi-major winner. No player younger than Novak, has won multiple majors.

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Ok, got it. but its kinda shooting at a side of a barn, and drawing targets around a cluster of points that were hit, i.e. reading the stats the way you wanna read. In my humble opinion, achieving and becoming a youngest multi-slam winner is more honorable (Rafa in this case). Otherwise, of course Novak is just happen to be younger than Rafa and you can give him a credit for any achivements just because he happened to be younger, not because he has achieved that at a younger age.
 

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Ok, got it. but its kinda shooting at a side of a barn, and drawing targets around a cluster of points that were hit, i.e. reading the stats the way you wanna read. In my humble opinion, achieving and becoming a youngest multi-slam winner is more honorable (Rafa in this case). Otherwise, of course Novak is just happen to be younger than Rafa and you can give him a credit for any achivements just because he happened to be younger, not because he has achieved that at a younger age.
It's not about being given credit for an achievement, it's just about at a given point in time identifying "Who is currently the youngest player who has won multiple slams?". That passed from Nadal to Djokovic when Djokovic won multiple slams, just because he is younger than Nadal. It's got nothing to do with which one was more impressive or what age they were when they did it.

The important point is that after Nadal, it was only about 5 years before a player younger than him managed to win a second slam. And from the past statistics you can see that the longest amount of time it took for someone younger to win multiple slams after the last person to do it was about 5 years 7 months. What's notable now is that no one younger than Djokovic has managed to win multiple slams in almost 10 years.

I have always said this is one of the most striking stats about the gap in slam champions after the Big 3. Del Potro and Cilic kept things ticking along a little by moving the "youngest slam winner" age down a year or so below Djokovic. And finally a significantly younger player has won a slam with Thiem winning one (6 years after Cilic). But still there hasn't been a multiple major champion to come along younger than Djokovic, and unless Thiem wins another slam quickly it's going to be 10 years and counting.

Of course, happenstance plays a bit of a role in just how long the streak of Djokovic being the youngest multi slam winner is due to the fact Murray was born a week before Djokovic rather than a week after him. So there has been one multiple major champion of almost exactly the same age as Djokovic who came after him even if not one who is actually younger. But even if Murray was born 10 days later, it'd still be 7 years and counting without a multiple major champion younger than either Djokovic or Murray, which would still be the record for how long it took for a younger multi slam champion.
 

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Exactly, Ruro, and thanks for taking the time to make a detailed explanation. (y)

I'm NOT trying to point out the obvious historical youngest multiple winner of majors in the Open Era. That would be too easy, Becker at 18y7m, then * Borg at 19y0m, then Wilander at 19y3m, and so on.

The point is to find out when the younger competition along the way throughout the Open Era became good enough to win multiple majors, and show the various gaps.

BTW, the average gap is about 3y3m.

Being "more honorable" has nothing to do with it. :)

*Edited for truth, thanks florentine. :)

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Well what more proof do we need that Nadovic vultured a weak era to inflate their count and get anywhere near the Supreme Almighty GOAT 🛐
 

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@RuRo that was fairly well explained, kinda akin to a business article.

so, i guess Thiem is the closest candidate to finally break the gap and post that will see who can beat Thiem's relay race. the thesis I guess is that Thiem's stance would be broken much earlier than 7-10 years given the next gen knocking the door already.
 

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Well what more proof do we need that Nadovic vultured a weak era to inflate their count and get anywhere near the Supreme Almighty GOAT 🛐
Roger also got 3 more well past the due date. :) so we should include him a bit. Fedalovic. But yes, the other two were much younger. I think things were fine till about end of 2016 - around 5 years into Novak's period of being youngest m-major winner..

Everything past that is skewed due to the inability of the LostGen and NextGen, and so... I take everything from 2017 on with a grain of salt... they won, and we should still give them credit, but mostly against inferior generations or each other.

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