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Meh, Tipsy can certainly play offense and he's very comfortable at net. I'd call him all court, but you can make a case for many types of play with him. I don't take much issue with that one, and Djokovic is close, though I'd say more offensive

Ferrer more defensive than Murray or Seppi is certainly not true, but no shock there.
 

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Figured I'd redo as some player's styles have changed a bit- some players have improved consistency by getting more defensive (eg Giraldo, del Potro), some have coped with aging by getting more offensive (eg Montanes, Robredo) and players have moved in and out of the top 100. This is by how they most regularly play- Del Potro controlled points vs Djokovic at Wimbledon when they met and is capable of hitting the ball as hard as Berdych or Tsonga, yet typically is the more defensive of the two. I have removed "pusher/junkballer" as a category and made junkballer a small separate category and lumped the rather small group of true pushers in with defensive baseliners.

I'll classify as (in order of most to least offensive) Serve & Volley, All court, Offensive baseliner, Grinder, Junkballer, Defensive baseliner- This isn't always true; for example, Dolhopolov is more offensive than Nishikori

Some players it depends heavily on surface (Granollers is all court to serve & volley on hard & grass, but an outright pusher at times on clay) but I'll go with the most common one

Novak Djokovic- Offensive baseliner
Andy Murray- Defensive baseliner
David Ferrer- Grinder
Rafael Nadal- Defensive baseliner
Roger Federer- All court
Tomas Berdych- Offensive baseliner
Juan Martin del Potro- Grinder
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga- All court
Richard Gasquet- Grinder
Stanislas Wawrinka- All court
Kei Nishikori- Grinder
Tommy Haas- All court
Milos Raonic- All court
Nicolas Almagro- Offensive baseliner
Marin Cilic- Offensive baseliner
Gilles Simon- Defensive baseliner
Jerzy Janowicz- All court
Janko Tipsarevic- All court
Fabio Fognini- Offensive baseliner
Sam Querrey- Offensive baseliner
Kevin Anderson- Offensive baseliner
John Isner- All court
Philipp Kohlschreiber- All court
Andreas Seppi- Grinder
Alexandr Dolgopolov- Junkballer
Jeremy Chardy- All court
Benoit Paire- All court
Tommy Robredo- Offensive baseliner
Feliciano Lopez- All court
Juan Monaco- Defensive baseliner
Grigor Dimitrov- All court
Fernando Verdasco- Offensive baseliner
Mikhail Youzhny- All court
Jurgen Melzer- All court
Julien Benneteau- All court
Ivan Dodig- All court
Martin Klizan- Offensive baseliner
Ernests Gulbis- Offensive baseliner
Jarkko Nieminen- Offensive baseliner
Lukas Rosol- Offensive baseliner
Bernard Tomic- Junkballer
Nikolay Davydenko- Offensive baseliner
Carlos Berlocq- Grinder
Marcos Baghdatis- All court
Florian Mayer- All court
Michael Llodra- Serve & Volley
Radek Stepanek- Serve & Volley
Roberto Bautista Agut- Offensive baseliner
Albert Montanes- All court
Pablo Andujar- Offensive baseliner
Marcel Granollers- All court
Grega Zemlja- Offensive baseliner
Viktor Troicki- Grinder
Victor Hanescu- Offensive baseliner
Daniel Brands- All court
Gael Monfils- Defensive baseliner
Robin Haase- Offensive baseliner
Horacio Zeballos- Offensive baseliner
Igor Sijsling- Serve & Volley
Yen-Hsun Lu- Grinder
Dmitry Tursunov- Offensive baseliner
Daniel Gimeno-Traver- Offensive baseliner
Mardy Fish- All court
Lleyton Hewitt- Grinder
Federico Delbonis- All court
Denis Istomin- All court
Adrian Mannarino- All court
Lukasz Kubot- Serve & Volley
Kenny De Schepper- Serve & Volley
Paolo Lorenzi- All court
Edouard Roger-Vasselin- All court
Evgeny Donskoy- Offensive baseliner
Marinko Matosevic- Offensive baseliner
Albert Ramos- Grinder
Nicolas Mahut- Serve & Volley
Leonardo Mayer- Offensive baseliner
Tobias Kamke- Offensive baseliner
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez- All court
Guido Pella- Offensive baseliner
Ricardas Berankis- Offensive baseliner
Alex Bogomolov Jr.- Offensive baseliner
Andrey Kuznetsov- Offensive baseliner
Alejandro Falla- Offensive baseliner
Lukas Lacko- Offensive baseliner
Michael Russell- Grinder
David Goffin- Grinder
Ivo Karlovic- Serve & Volley
Santiago Giraldo- Grinder
Vasek Pospisil- All court
Xavier Malisse- All court
James Blake- Offensive baseliner
Joao Sousa- Grinder
Denis Kudla- All court
Adrian Ungur- All court
Jack Sock- Offensive baseliner
Andreas Haider-Maurer- All court
Dudi Sela- All court
Jiri Vesely- Offensive baseliner
Sergiy Stakhovsky- Serve & Volley
Aljaz Bedene- Offensive baseliner
 

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So "All court" is now a new word for "servebot"? Looking at Raonic, it can only means that...
 

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Fixing errors:

Gasquet- Defensive Baseliner
Wawrinka - Offensive Baseliner
Nishikori - Offensive Baseliner
Cilic - All Court
Querrey - Grinder nowadays
Montanes - Offensive Baseliner
Lorenzi - Defensive Baseliner
Edouard Roger Vasellin - All Court
Haider-Mauer - Offensive Baseliner
Bedene - Grinder
 

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Fixing errors:

Djokovic - Grinder
Gasquet- Defensive Baseliner
Wawrinka - Offensive Baseliner
Nishikori - Offensive Baseliner
Cilic - All Court
Querrey - Grinder nowadays
Montanes - Offensive Baseliner
Lorenzi - Defensive Baseliner
Edouard Roger Vasellin - All Court
Haider-Mauer - Offensive Baseliner
Bedene - Grinder
You know, I actually considered pretty much all of these. On my old one, I had Niskikori is an offensive baseliner, he's borderline IMO- as is Djokovic. Monty has started coming to the net an awful lot, and his always plentiful drop shots are reaching Janowicz level. Lorenzi likes the net too much to not mention it I think, though he does generally defend on return. I just plain screwed up on ERV, that's what I meant to make him. Only one I truly disagree with is Querrey

And as for "So "All court" is now a new word for "servebot"? Looking at Raonic, it can only means that...", well I didn't have a "servebot" category :lol:
 

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You know, I actually considered pretty much all of these. On my old one, I had Niskikori is an offensive baseliner, he's borderline IMO- as is Djokovic. Monty has started coming to the net an awful lot, and his always plentiful drop shots are reaching Janowicz level. Lorenzi likes the net too much to not mention it I think, though he does generally defend on return. I just plain screwed up on ERV, that's what I meant to make him. Only one I truly disagree with is Querrey

And as for "So "All court" is now a new word for "servebot"? Looking at Raonic, it can only means that...", well I didn't have a "servebot" category :lol:
Did you watch last Querrey's matches? He is only grinding. He was All court player,but now he is grinder
 

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Hmm, very interesting thread.
 

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No, i just say Tipsarevic is not an all-courter and Andujar is not an aggressive baseliner.
And Simon's style of play varies depending on his mood, surface and opponents as well, it's a reality.
You claim I should not call Simon a defensive baseliner, yet you think I should call Andujar, a far more offensive player, one? Tipsarevic is an all-courter for the most part, albeit lately a pretty shitty one.
 

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Simon being a Pusher is as NID as Almagro choking,why the stir here?
 

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Simon is a defensive player, predominantly. Only a naive one would argue with that statement.

Andujar actually has a bit of pizazz about him, and while he's not the most offensive clay-courter around, he deserves his place in that category.
 

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I thought I'd use the categories provided by Voo (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=339513) to define the top 100 (IMO).

Djokovic, Novak - Defender
Nadal, Rafael - Defender
Federer, Roger - Forwarder
Wawrinka, Stan - Fowarder/N'Owner
Berdych, Tomas - N'Owner
Raonic, Milos - N'Owner
Ferrer, David - Defender
Del Potro, Juan Martin - N'Owner
Dimitrov, Grigor - Mixer
Murray, Andy - Defender/Mixer
Nishikori, Kei - N'Owner
Isner, John - N'Owner
Gulbis, Ernests - N'Owner
Gasquet, Richard - Defender
Fognini, Fabio - Defender/Mixer
Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried - Forwarder
Anderson, Kevin - N'Owner
Robredo, Tommy - Defender
Dolgopolov, Alexandr - Mixer
Cilic, Marin - N'Owner
Monfils, Gael - Defender
Youzhny, Mikhail - Forwarder
Bautista Agut, Roberto - Defender
Lopez, Feliciano - Atomer
Haas, Tommy - Forwarder
Kohlschreiber, Philipp - Forwarder/N'Owner
Almagro, Nicolas - N'Owner
Granollers, Marcel - Deceiver/Defender
Verdasco, Fernando - N'Owner
Tursunov, Dmitry - N'Owner
Karlovic, Ivo - Atomer
Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo - N'Owner
Pospisil, Vasek - N'Owner
Giraldo, Santiago - N'Owner
Chardy, Jeremy - N'Owner
Simon, Gilles - Defender
Stepanek, Radek - Deceiver/Softer
Delbonis, Federico - N'Owner
Istomin, Denis - N'Owner
Sousa, Joao - Defender
Berlocq, Carlos - Defender
Lu, Yen-Hsun - Defender
Hewitt, Lleyton - Defender
Benneteau, Julien - N'Owner
Seppi, Andreas - Defender
Roger-Vasselin, Edouard - N'Owner
Mayer, Leonardo - N'Owner
Rosol, Lukas - N'Owner
Haase, Robin - N'Owner
Mayer, Florian - Mixer
Janowicz, Jerzy - N'Owner/Forwarder
Kukushkin, Mikhail - N'Owner
Dodig, Ivan - Deceiver/Defender
Klizan, Martin - N'Owner
Matosevic, Marinko - becoming a Deceiver
Falla, Alejandro - N'Owner
Thiem, Dominic - N'Owner
Nieminen, Jarkko - Defender
Mahut, Nicolas - Softer
Becker, Benjamin - Balancer
Golubev, Andrey - N'Owner
Carreno Busta, Pablo - Defender
Querrey, Sam - N'Owner
Gabashvili, Teymuraz - N'Owner
Melzer, Jurgen - Deceiver
Kyrgios, Nick - N'Owner
Vesely, Jiri - N'Owner
Sijsling, Igor - Forwarder
Johnson, Steve - N'Owner
Young, Donald - N'Owner
Struff, Jan-Lennard - N'Owner
Gonzalez, Alejandro - N'Owner
Lajovic, Dusan - N'Owner
Klahn, Bradley - N'Owner
Andujar, Pablo - Defender
Sock, Jack - N'Owner
Mathieu, Paul-Henri - N'Owner
Ebden, Matthew - Forwarder
Paire, Benoit - Mixer
Lorenzi, Paolo - Defender
Rola, Blaz - Defender
Kamke, Tobias - N'Owner
Lacko, Lukas - N'Owner/Mixer
Muller, Gilles - Atomer
Kavcic, Blaz - N'Owner
Robert, Stephan - N'Owner
Monaco, Juan - Defender
Stakhovsky, Sergiy - Softer
Ramos-Vinolas, Albert - Defender
Estrella Burgos, Victor - Defender
Bellucci, Thomaz - N'Owner
Mannarino, Adrian - Forwarder
Riba, Pere - Defender
Gimeno-Traver, Daniel - N'Owner
Dancevic, Frank - Forwarder
Schwartzman, Diego Sebastian - Defender
Haider-Maurer, Andreas - N'Owner
Sela, Dudi - Forwarder
Kuznetsov, Andrey - N'Owner
Brown, Dustin - N'Owner

Thoughts?
 

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It doesn't really need to be as complicated as he has made it, mostly because there isn't much variation in modern playing styles. I'd divide them into five self-explanatory categories.

Offensive baseliner
Moderate baseliner
Defensive baseliner
Serve-and-volleyer
All-courter

I'll indicate whether each player has a better forehand (FH) or backhand (BH) and also add a (P) next to their name if the player possesses a powerful serve.

1. N. Djokovic - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
2 R. Nadal - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
3. R. Federer - All-courter - (FH)
4 S. Wawrinka - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
5. T. Berdych - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
6 M. Raonic - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
7. D. Ferrer - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
8 J. Del Potro - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
9. G. Dimitrov - All-courter - (FH) (P)
10 A. Murray - Defensive baseliner - (BH)
11. K. Nishikori - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
12 J. Isner - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
13. E. Gulbis - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
14 R. Gasquet - All-courter - (BH)
15. F. Fognini - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
16 J. Tsonga - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
17. K. Anderson - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
18 T. Robredo - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
19. A. Dolgopolov - All-courter - (FH)
20 M. Cilic - Moderate baseliner - (BH) (P)
21. G. Monfils - Defensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
22 M. Youzhny - All-courter - (FH)
23. R. Bautista Agut - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
24 F. Lopez - Serve-and-volleyer - (FH) (P)
25. T. Haas - All-courter - (BH)
26 P. Kohlschreiber - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
27. N. Almagro - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
28 M. Granollers - All-courter - (FH)
29. F. Verdasco - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
30 D. Tursunov - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
31. I. Karlovic - Serve-and-volleyer - (FH) (P)
32 G. Garcia-Lopez - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
33. V. Pospisil - All-courter - (FH) (P)
34 S. Giraldo - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
35. J. Chardy - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
36 G. Simon - Defensive baseliner - (BH)
37. R. Stepanek - Serve-and-volleyer - (BH)
38 F. Delbonis - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
39. D. Istomin - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
40 J. Sousa - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
41. C. Berlocq - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
42 Y. Lu - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
43. L. Hewitt - All-courter - (FH)
44 J. Benneteau - All-courter - (BH)
45. A. Seppi - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
46 E. Roger-Vasselin - All-courter - (FH)
47. L. Mayer - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
48 L. Rosol - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
49. R. Haase - Moderate baseliner - (FH) (P)
50 F. Mayer - All-courter - (BH)
51. J. Janowicz - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
52 M. Kukushkin - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
53. I. Dodig - All-courter - (BH) (P)
54 M. Klizan - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
55. M. Matosevic - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
56 A. Falla - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
57. D. Thiem - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
58 J. Nieminen - Defensive baseliner - (BH)
59. N. Mahut - Serve-and-volleyer - (FH) (P)
60 B. Becker - All-courter - (FH)
61. A. Golubev - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
62 P. Carreno Busta - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
63. S. Querrey - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
64 T. Gabashvili - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
65. J. Melzer - All-courter - (BH)
66 N. Kyrgios - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
67. J. Vesely - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
68 I. Sijsling - All-courter - (FH) (P)
69. S. Johnson - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
70 D. Young - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
71. J. Struff - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
72 A. Gonzalez - Defensive baseliner - (BH)
73. D. Lajovic - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
74 B. Klahn - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
75. P. Andujar - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
76 J. Sock - All-courter - (FH) (P)
77. P. Mathieu - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
78 M. Ebden - All-courter - (FH)
79. B. Paire - Offensive baseliner - (BH) (P)
80 P. Lorenzi - Defensive baseliner - (BH)
81. B. Rola - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
82 T. Kamke - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
83. L. Lacko - Offensive baseliner - (BH)
84 G. Muller - All-courter - (FH) (P)
85. B. Kavcic - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
86 S. Robert - Offensive baseliner - (FH)
87. J. Monaco - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
88 S. Stakhovsky - Serve-and-volleyer - (FH) (P)
89. A. Ramos-Vinolas - Moderate baseliner - (FH)
90 V. Estrella Burgos - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
91. T. Bellucci - Moderate baseliner - (FH) (P)
92 A. Mannarino - All-courter - (BH)
93. P. Riba - Defensive baseliner - (FH)
94 D. Gimeno-Traver - Moderare baseliner - (FH) (P)
95. F. Dancevic - All-courter - (FH) (P)
96 D. Schwartzman - Moderate baseliner - (BH)
97. A. Haider-Maurer - Offensive baseliner - (FH) (P)
98 D. Sela - All-courter - (BH)
99. A. Kuznetsov - Offensive baseliner - (BH)
100 D. Brown - All-courter - (FH) (P)

I probably have got quite a few of the preferred wings wrong, but I think I'm within reason on most of the playing styles. Feel free to correct me though.

:)
 

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^ Good for the most part, but surely Fed deserves the (P) and Raonic is an all-courter. I'd also consider Djoko a moderate baseliner.
1) Federer's serve is reasonably powerful, yes. Problem is, if you give the (P) to him, then you could argue that about a dozen others (including Murray) deserve it, and it's meant to be reasonably exclusive. Who that I gave a (P) to made you think Federer deserved one? Stako, Gimeno or somebody else? Removing the (P) from them would be a better idea.

2) As for Raonic, I disagree. I think of all-courters as players who are very adapt at both baseline and net. Whilst Raonic does come in often, I only see him volley well when he has to punch. Essentially, he looks wooden. He's underrated at the baseline though, which leads me to categorise him as a baseliner.

3) Yeah, I will change Djokovic. The truth is that I started doing this with only four categories (no moderate baseliner). If I'd done it from the beginning with all five, I'd have put Djokovic in the moderate category.

Also, I couldn't make my mind up about which wing is better for Thiem. Everybody talks about the backhand, but I've been impressed with how hard he can hit the forehand and for it to still seem very controlled. I couldn't make my mind up, I changed my mind from forehand to backhand, but I'm still not sure.
 

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It doesn't really need to be as complicated as he has made it, mostly because there isn't much variation in modern playing styles. I'd divide them into five self-explanatory categories.
Perhaps, but then can you really class Stepanek and Karlovic together under the simple description of "serve and volleyer" given the vast differences in their play? I realise we could nitpick for days over how many types of players there are, but still.
 
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