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We are all in it together. Can't you see when the youngsters rise the likes of Federer and Nadal will be forced out of top 5, eventually retiring because they can't find a way to win. Once Federer is out of top 5 he will consider retiring, this subject will atleast cross his mind.
Do you want this to happen? Do you really think Kyrgios, Tifiou, Rublev, the kokk and Goffin can replace these legends?

Alongside Federer and Nadal, Djokovic plays a huge factor too. Djokovic is currently a story writer breaking all kinds of records, might even challenge 17 slams if the youngsters are tamed. Once Djokovic get's close to 17 slams tennis will flourish once again. Everyone wants to see whether current record can be broken or not. You have all forgotten how 2009 felt like, the moment when Federer surpassed Pete Sampras. We can relive that moment as both Nadal and Djokovic are capable of writing that story. This might be our only chance to expierence the exitement again, because none of the youngsters are on the same level, even if they are, do you know how much we have to wait for the same story which is very unlikely to happen?

I say crush the youngsters and support Djokovic's quest to greatness.
 

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Djokovic, Federer and Nadal aren't gonna last forever aren't they. If the youngsters do dreadful then tennis doesn't have a future :facepalm:
 

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Yep, it's possible to delay their progress to the top of the game for a while e.g. by fixing the slam draws, so that they start winning slams at 2020 instead of 2019 or 2018, if sponsors find Fedalovic or RaoDimIshi more lucrative as they did for Fedal against Djokovic, who was always in Federer's half at HC slams 2008-11 and usually Nadal's at RG.

There would've been a lot less Fedal finals and more ranking points and slam finals for Djokovic 2008-10 if it had been the opposite case, always in Nadal's half at HC slams and usually in Federer's at RG.

If Nadal and Federer are still a slam contenders in 2017/18 then they will not speed the courts up and will continue with the slam draws fixing for Fedal, but if e.g. instead of some Eastern European (Coric, Rublev) some Aussie(Kyrgios) or American(Tiafoe) becomes a slam contender by 2018 then things might change quickly in sponsor's and tournament director's minds.
 

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Unfair to Federer who's done more than enough but keeps giving. He's got a life to live and kids to watch grow up.
Times always change. Remember Sampras' domination? He got replaced. It's bound to happen...
Also nice to see new faces and new games on tour.
 

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We are all in it together. Can't you see when the youngsters rise the likes of Federer and Nadal will be forced out of top 5, eventually retiring because they can't find a way to win. Once Federer is out of top 5 he will consider retiring, this subject will atleast cross his mind.
Do you want this to happen? Do you really think Kyrgios, Tifiou, Rublev, the kokk and Goffin can replace these legends?

Alongside Federer and Nadal, Djokovic plays a huge factor too. Djokovic is currently a story writer breaking all kinds of records, might even challenge 17 slams if the youngsters are tamed. Once Djokovic get's close to 17 slams tennis will flourish once again. Everyone wants to see whether current record can be broken or not. You have all forgotten how 2009 felt like, the moment when Federer surpassed Pete Sampras. We can relive that moment as both Nadal and Djokovic are capable of writing that story. This might be our only chance to expierence the exitement again, because none of the youngsters are on the same level, even if they are, do you know how much we have to wait for the same story which is very unlikely to happen?

I say crush the youngsters and support Djokovic's quest to greatness.
Do you have anything else productive going on in your life or every day you just think of new ways to shitpost and fill this place with mundane drivel?
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It seems like the youngsters aren't going to rise, one way or another. No crushing necessary. I doubt any one of them (the current generation of course) will ever get anywhere near Djokovic/Nadal/Federer in terms of greatness or skill.
 

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It seems like the youngsters aren't going to rise, one way or another. No crushing necessary. I doubt any one of them (the current generation of course) will ever get anywhere near Djokovic/Nadal/Federer in terms of greatness or skill.
Based on what? The fact that they are 17,18 year old and still slamless?

And as far as Yoda's threads goes, its mods fault that they still didn't implement a rule that when a poster announces that they are leaving the forum in a attention whoring fashion, they should get automatically banned.
 

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Well, the tennis astrology reports all over the internet say Djokovic won't win anymore slams this year and that next year the young stars take over.
Nadal is the only guy that can hold his ground (Roland Garros now and forever).
 

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It seems like the youngsters aren't going to rise, one way or another. No crushing necessary. I doubt any one of them (the current generation of course) will ever get anywhere near Djokovic/Nadal/Federer in terms of greatness or skill.
No need for them to be anywhere near Fedalovic, though, but at least two among 95+ guns, Kyrgios, Coric, Kokkinakis, Chung, Rublev, Tifoe, Zverev, Kozlov ... will be the slam finalists by 2018 and winners by 2019.

As 85/86/87/88 gave us Berdych/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray/Del Potro/Cilic but 86/87 taking the most of the slams and masters, so 95/96/97/98 gave us above mentioned future champions, but yet to be seen which generation, if any, will be as dominant as 86/87.
 

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Djokovic, Federer and Nadal aren't gonna last forever aren't they. If the youngsters do dreadful then tennis doesn't have a future :facepalm:
Djokovic is the future. We should be able to prolong prime beyond 33 in the near future, even if the '96 generation fails Djokovic should be able to hold tennis long enough for new generation to arrive and finaly pass the torch.

Yep, it's possible to delay their progress to the top of the game for a while e.g. by fixing the slam draws, so that they start winning slams at 2020 instead of 2019 or 2018, if sponsors find Fedalovic or RaoDimIshi more lucrative as they did for Fedal against Djokovic, who was always in Federer's half at HC slams 2008-11 and usually Nadal's at RG.

There would've been a lot less Fedal finals and more ranking points and slam finals for Djokovic 2008-10 if it had been the opposite case, always in Nadal's half at HC slams and usually in Federer's at RG.

If Nadal and Federer are still a slam contenders in 2017/18 then they will not speed the courts up and will continue with the slam draws fixing for Fedal, but if e.g. instead of some Eastern European (Coric, Rublev) some Aussie(Kyrgios) or American(Tiafoe) becomes a slam contender by 2018 then things might change quickly in sponsor's and tournament director's minds.
I find it only fitting to return the favor to Djokovic who has been a victim of fixed draws.

Unfair to Federer who's done more than enough but keeps giving. He's got a life to live and kids to watch grow up.
Times always change. Remember Sampras' domination? He got replaced. It's bound to happen...
Also nice to see new faces and new games on tour.
Federer has got a record to defend in the near future, he's far from done the best has yet to come in 2 years from now.
Djokovic is also convinced Federer can still play some of his best tennis so there is no reason to count him out.

It seems like the youngsters aren't going to rise, one way or another. No crushing necessary. I doubt any one of them (the current generation of course) will ever get anywhere near Djokovic/Nadal/Federer in terms of greatness or skill.
You are probably right, let's hope the next 5 years we have little to no opposition so that Djokovic can overtake Federer. I doubt anyone could discredit Djokovic slams after weak 2004-2007.

Based on what? The fact that they are 17,18 year old and still slamless?

And as far as Yoda's threads goes, its mods fault that they still didn't implement a rule that when a poster announces that they are leaving the forum in a attention whoring fashion, they should get automatically banned.
I left the forums and now I have returned. It's simple as that really.
 

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What about Darth Vader, he had been the GOAT before you trained Luke to beat him, you hypocritic little green bitch, we loved Lord Vader!
Yeah, DarthFed to return with utter vengeance to crush all the youngsters and eat them alive!! ;)

May the Force be with you! :rolleyes:
 

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"Crush the youngsters, don't let them rise!"

Anyways, why don't you want to see new blood? Much more exciting to have new young players...
 
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No need for them to be anywhere near Fedalovic, though, but at least two among 95+ guns, Kyrgios, Coric, Kokkinakis, Chung, Rublev, Tifoe, Zverev, Kozlov ... will be the slam finalists by 2018 and winners by 2019.

As 85/86/87/88 gave us Berdych/Nadal/Djokovic/Murray/Del Potro/Cilic but 86/87 taking the most of the slams and masters, so 95/96/97/98 gave us above mentioned future champions, but yet to be seen which generation, if any, will be as dominant as 86/87.
Well yea, of course. Someone will have to be winning slams once the current Big 4 stop doing so, but I don't expect any one player to be dominant. I imagine we will see many different slam winners.

My point is, OP need not fear about the youngsters posing any huge threat to Djokovic. They will eventually win slams but not until the Big 4 decline significantly.
 

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Once Federer is out of top 5 he will consider retiring, this subject will atleast cross his mind.
Do you want this to happen?
Federer already had a spell outside of the top 5 in 2013 and 2014, before you started watching tennis.
 
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