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To avoid this thread becoming a debate over who belongs to NextGen and who doesn’t, I‘ll define that we’re strictly discussing the crop of players born between 1995 and 1999 here. So far, NextGen have had a pretty good start to the year in the minor tournaments, winning 9/13 of tour events played(Garin 2, Rublev 2, Humbert 1, Opelka 1, Edmund 1, Tsitsipas 1, Ruud 1). If I counted right, there are 66 tour events this year (excluding team events and Milan finals), so the question is, can NextGen win 33 of them?

It seems difficult on paper, but they already won around 25 last year. Most of the old second tier players have declined or retired, the big 3 focus on major events and are losing their grip on Masters tournaments as well. Experienced players like Nishikori, Raonic, Dimitrov and Goffin find it difficult to win titles these days, and the 00-04 generation isn’t ready to take over yet. I doubt many of you care about this question, but I’d still like to hear the opinion of those who do. ?
 
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They most likely will win at least half of the titles, yes. LostGen won't win much, their best players seem already in decline mode, and GoldenGen is really getting older. The big question is whether NextGen can also win a GS title.
 

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Current top 100 generational groupings & some rankings:


NewBallsGen (1980-1984)
= 6 : [3]Federer, [51]Verdasco, [52]Lopez, [53]Simon, [80]Kohlschreiber, [86]Seppi - 1 top 20 player and active slam winner
GoldenGen (1985-1989) = 27: Led by [1]Djokovic, [2]Nadal, [9]Monfils, [11]Fognini, [12]Bautista-Agut, [16]Wawrinka, [20]Isner. 7 top 20 players and 4 active slam winners*

The majority of major tournaments should be won by GoldenGen and perhaps NewBallsGen, with a lesser chance for the rest... but this could change at any time.

--------Slamless Generations---------------
LostGen (1990-1994) = 34: Led by [4]Thiem, [10]Goffin, [13]Schwartzman. 3 top 20 players
NextGen (1995-1999) = 31: Led by [5]Medvedev, [6]Tsitsipas, [7]Zverev, [8]Berrettini, [14]Rublev, [15]Shapovalov, [17]Kachanov, [18]Garin. 8 top 20 players
TeenGen (2000-2004) = 2: [19]Aliassime, [75]Sinner. 1 top 20 player



My projected distribution excluding the non-team and Milan tournaments:

1. [27?] NextGen who are 21 to 25 years old. - Still a plurality - not majority. ;)
2. [20?] Second should be GoldenGen who are 31-35.
3. [11?] Third, LostGen who are 26-30 (note that these guys should be second at worst based on age)
4. [08?] TeenGen age 16-20 (ok, inc. just over teen) should win a handful and be neck and neck with the 36 year olds & up NewBalls guys.

*slam winners Murray and Del Potro are not in the top 100.

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None for New(Old)BallsGen Masterclass ?? Not even in the grass season (Fed, Lopez) or Basel (Fed)?
 

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None for New(Old)BallsGen Masterclass ?? Not even in the grass season (Fed, Lopez) or Basel (Fed)?
I think he meant 4 for 00-04 and 4 for 80-84 in the description, that would make it pretty realistic.
 

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Nice thread , here I go (again)
EDIT:
25 - Golden
25 - Next Gen
12 - Lost gen
3 - New Balls gen
1 - Baby Gen
 

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Current top 100 generational groupings & some rankings:


NewBallsGen (1980-1984)
= 6 : [3]Federer, [51]Verdasco, [52]Lopez, [53]Simon, [80]Kohlschreiber, [86]Seppi - 1 top 20 player and active slam winner
GoldenGen (1985-1989) = 27: Led by [1]Djokovic, [2]Nadal, [9]Monfils, [11]Fognini, [12]Bautista-Agut, [16]Wawrinka, [20]Isner. 7 top 20 players and 4 active slam winners*

The majority of major tournaments should be won by GoldenGen and perhaps NewBallsGen, with a lesser chance for the rest... but this could change at any time.

--------Slamless Generations---------------
LostGen (1990-1994) = 34: Led by [4]Thiem, [10]Goffin, [13]Schwartzman. 3 top 20 players
NextGen (1995-1999) = 31: Led by [5]Medvedev, [6]Tsitsipas, [7]Zverev, [8]Berrettini, [14]Rublev, [15]Shapovalov, [17]Kachanov, [18]Garin. 8 top 20 players
TeenGen (2000-2004) = 2: [19]Aliassime, [75]Sinner. 1 top 20 player



My projected distribution excluding the non-team and Milan tournaments:

1. [27?] NextGen who are 21 to 25 years old. - Still a plurality - not majority. ;)
2. [20?] Second should be GoldenGen who are 31-35.
3. [11?] Third, LostGen who are 26-30 (note that these guys should be second at worst based on age)
4. [08?] TeenGen age 16-20 (ok, inc. just over teen) should win a handful and be neck and neck with the 36 year olds & up NewBalls guys.

*slam winners Murray and Del Potro are not in the top 100.

Respectfully,
masterclass
I think you are definitely too optimistic for TeenGen (8 titles for FAA and Sinner this year? Or do you see anyone else winning a title?), and likely as well for GoldenGen and LostGen. On the other hand, I'd hope Federer will win at least 1 title. My estimate:

1. [35] NextGen
2. [18] GoldenGen
3. [9] LostGen who are 26-30 (note that these guys should be second at worst based on age)
4. [2] TeenGen
5. [2] NewBalls
 

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I think you are definitely too optimistic for TeenGen (8 titles for FAA and Sinner this year? Or do you see anyone else winning a title?), and likely as well for GoldenGen and LostGen. On the other hand, I'd hope Federer will win at least 1 title. My estimate:

1. [35] NextGen
2. [18] GoldenGen
3. [9] LostGen who are 26-30 (note that these guys should be second at worst based on age)
4. [2] TeenGen
5. [2] NewBalls
You , me got it wrong . Masterclass was going for the split . :LOL: which makes more sense

To answer the question thread , a lot will depend on how next gen fare this upcoming clay and grass season where IMO GG and LG have a clear advantage over them. But if somehow they adapt we coul be looking at half the titles for Next Gen. My opinion is no

Lets see I got this thread bookmarked , its gonna be a fight
 

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So far :

1) Next Gen : 9
2) Golden Gen : 3
3) Lost Gen : 1

Next Gen take the lead as quite vulturers
 

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None for New(Old)BallsGen Masterclass ?? Not even in the grass season (Fed, Lopez) or Basel (Fed)?
I think he meant 4 for 00-04 and 4 for 80-84 in the description, that would make it pretty realistic.
Correct, that is a total of 8 titles combined for oldest and youngest gen.
Obviously, it could be somewhat less if Rog doesn't come back as well as many hope.

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So far :

1) Next Gen : 9
2) Golden Gen : 3
3) Lost Gen : 1

Next Gen take the lead as quite vulturers
How are they vultures? They are in their physical prime. Them and Thiem's gen are supposed to be winning everything in sight. All the rest are the vultures.
 

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How are they vultures? They are in their physical prime. Them and Thiem's gen are supposed to be winning everything in sight. All the rest are the vultures.
It was a joke ?
 
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Three finals lost by nextgen this week
0-5-1-9-1
And surprisingly the first title for the 2000s by Seyboth Wild rather than FAA or Sinner...
 

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Yup, the fight is on
So far :

1) Next Gen : 9
2) Golden Gen : 5
3) Lost Gen : 1
4) Baby Gen : 1
 
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