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I've already told you: I'm not interested in whatever arbitrary snippets of time you carve up to comfort yourself.

I'm only interested in the relevant timeframe to the discussion I was having with MIMIC.
I can mimic you by saying, "Nalbandian dominated Federer for four full years from the years 2002-2005." But a wise person can counter me by saying, "Nalbandian did not dominate Federer in 2004-2005.'
 

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I can mimic you by saying, "Nalbandian dominated Federer for four full years from the years 2002-2005." But a wise person can counter me by saying, "Nalbandian did not dominate Federer in 2004-2005.'
I'm not interested in your random and irrelevant observations.
 

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Did Federer dominate Djokovic in late-2007, 2008-2009? It is a simple question.
Yes, a very simple and irrelevant question.

One could break up the time in any number of ways to produce dozens of such simple and irrelevant questions, but I am in any case not interested.
 

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Yes, a very simple and irrelevant question.

One could break up the time in any number of ways to produce dozens of such simple and irrelevant questions, but I am in any case not interested.
Could it be reality what you are not interested in? That'd be yet another FedCult side effect.
 

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Yes, a very simple and irrelevant question.

One could break up the time in any number of ways to produce dozens of such simple and irrelevant questions, but I am in any case not interested.
A simple question that you are incapable of answering. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Since this is relevant to post again, "I can mimic you by saying, "Nalbandian dominated Federer for four full years from the years 2002-2005." But a wise person can counter me by saying, "Nalbandian did not dominate Federer in 2004-2005."

In other words, Federer dominated Djokovic in 2006 and early 2007, but not late 2007, 2008-2009.
 

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Could it be reality what you are not interested in? That'd be yet another FedCult side effect.
I'm certainly not as interested as you in pursuing tedious debates long after they've run their course.

I consider that a public service.
 

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A simple question that you are incapable of answering. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Since this is relevant to post again, "I can mimic you by saying, "Nalbandian dominated Federer for four full years from the years 2002-2005." But a wise person can counter me by saying, "Nalbandian did not dominate Federer in 2004-2005."

In other words, Federer dominated Djokovic in 2006 and early 2007, but not late 2007, 2008-2009.
You've chosen an arbitrary chunk of time, merely because it suits your purpose.

Reinstate 2010. And then reinstate 2006. And then reinstate the early 2007. And then reinstate the middle of 2007.

And then we can talk.

The Nalbandian comparison is too stupid to engage with. I have standards.
 

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Possibly on the Senior tour....
 

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Ok, let's go over this slowly, since that is necessary with you.

MIMIC wrote: Federer had an edge early in their careers, but that didn't last very long.

You wrote: For 5 full years, Federer dominated Novak 13-6.

I wrote: He dominated in 2006/early-2007; not in late-2007, 2008-2009.

MIMIC wrote: I guess that eliminates the possibility of neither of them having the edge. Oh wait....

You see, (clearly) when MIMIC made his initial post, he did not say that Djokovic led the overall H2H with Federer in the timeframe that you chose for your rebuttal (2006-2010); it simply meant that Federer dominated the rivalry early, but quickly lost his edge later.

You know what? That would be correct, because neither player had the edge in late-2007, 2008-2009; ergo it was a tie.

The Nalbandian comparison is a perfect mimic of what you are saying.. that Nalbandian dominated Federer for four full years from 2002-2005, but without any consideration that it was in fact for only two years, since Federer was not dominated by Nalbandian in 2004-2005. So, by looking at the overall H2H - without any other consideration - we do not see a clear picture of what really happened between those years.
 

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AO: 2008, 2011, 2016, 2020
FO: 2012
W: 2014, 2015, 2019
USO: 2010, 2011, 2015

I'd have to say these were the 11 matches that Rogie lost to Djokovic that felt the worst of all...

Wheras: 2007 AO, 2011 FO, 2012 W, 2007 USO, 2008 USO, and 2009 USO were the ones the felt the best of all!!
 

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So you didn’t even understand the point, but I’m still wrong without you explaining why.

Did I miss anything?
No. Two possibilities:

a) You meant Djokovic gained the edge at an early stage in the rivalry
b) You meant Djokovic drew exactly even at an early stage in the rivalry

In both cases, you would be wrong.

I trust that's a complete answer.
 

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No. Two possibilities:

a) You meant Djokovic gained the edge at an early stage in the rivalry
b) You meant Djokovic drew exactly even at an early stage in the rivalry

In both cases, you would be wrong.

I trust that's a complete answer.
You keep looking at the overall H2H, which was not a part of the discussion. Again (as an example): Federer trailed Nalbandian 4-6 at the conclusion of the 2005 season, despite Nalbandian not having an edge over Federer in 2004-2005. By looking at the overall H2H (as you did), you would be missing the point that Federer took away the edge that Nalbandian had over him in 2002-2003, despite still leading the overall H2H over Federer at that point in time. Is this difficult to comprehend?

Djokovic did not have a losing record in the timeframe we are discussing (late-2007, 2008-2009). Did Federer lead the overall H2H still? Yes! But that was not the point of the post. The point was, Federer lost the edge he had from 2006, early-2007, and the results in the timeframe discussed shows that.
 

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The rivalry was 22-22 at the end of 2015, so it was dead even when Rogie was 34 and Djokovic was 28... Since then it's really changed, 5-1 Djokovic, for 27-23 overall (Rogie won the 2019 WTF only; Djokovic won 2016 AO SF, 2018 Cincinnati F, 2018 Paris SF, 2019 Wimbledon F, and 2020 AO SF)!!
 
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