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Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

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Nadal (13)

2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6

Djokovic (7)

2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5
2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6

Murray (13)

2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2
2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6

Federer (4)

2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 vs Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

by the* damn, another error in the title. Please correct, mods.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Bagels doled out by members of the Big Four:

Federer: 93 (last: 2019 Madrid v Monfils)
Nadal: 106 (last: 2019 AO v Djokovic)
Djokovic: 95 (last: 2019 Rome v Kohlschreiber)
Murray: 70 (last: 2017 RG v del Potro)

(For future reference - bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 12)

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Bagels received by members of the Big Four:

Federer (4)

2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6

Nadal (15)

2018 USO QF vs Thiem: 0-6, 6-4, 7-5, 6-7(4), 7-6(5)
2017 Miami R32 vs Kohlschreiber: 0-6, 6-2, 6-3
2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6

Djokovic (10)

2019 Rome F vs Nadal: 0-6, 6-4, 1-6
2017 RG QF vs Thiem: 6-7(5), 3-6, 0-6
2016 Rome 3R vs Bellucci: 0-6, 6-3, 6-2
2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5

2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6

Murray (13)

2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2

2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6

(Green: bageled player won the match)

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Federer's next bagel will be in 2017.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Federer's is quite impressive, apart from RG, you can say he virtually never got one
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

I like how the first three for Federer were all in the span of two months and then the next one was nine years later.

I think unlike Nadal and Murray, and to a lesser extent, Djokovic, Federer can play his worst tennis yet still rely on his serve to at least get him one game.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Federer's is quite impressive, apart from RG, you can say he virtually never got one
thats the advantage of having a huge serve..
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

lol, so if you bagel Djokovic, your still probably gonna lose.


Now a thread for bagels given by the big 4.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

lol, so if you bagel Djokovic, your still probably gonna lose.


Now a thread for bagels given by the big 4.
That's too much to write. I'll just give you the count (as of Miami):

Federer: 88
Nadal: 83
Djokovic: 80
Murray: 51

(For future reference, bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 12)
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

That's too much to write. I'll just give you the count (as of Miami):

Federer: 88
Nadal: 83
Djokovic: 80
Murray: 51

(For future reference, bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 12)
baldal to lose the 2nd spot pretty soon. the guy is sinking by a minute.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

At this rate, Andy will have been bageled more often than bagelling someone.
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Bagels doled out by members of the Big Four:

Federer: 90 (last: 2016 Wimbledon v Willis)
Nadal: 91 (last: 2016 USO v Seppi)
Djokovic: 87 (last: 2016 WTF v Thiem)
Murray: 68 (last: 2017 Dubai v Garcia-Lopez)

(For future reference - bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 12)

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Bagels received by members of the Big Four:

Federer (4)

2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6

Nadal (14)

2017 Miami R32 vs Kohlschreiber: 0-6, 6-2, 6-3
2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6

Djokovic (8)

2016 Rome 3R vs Bellucci: 0-6, 6-3, 6-2
2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5

2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6

Murray (13)

2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2

2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6

(Green: bageled player won the match)

(As of 2017 Miami)
New bagel for Rafa
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

Djokovic is 5-3 in bageled matches :lol:
 

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I'm still amazed that Rogie has only received 4 bagels and 3 of them were either all in 1999 or all in 1999-2000, either way, wow and the only other one was the dreaded 2008 FO F loss to Rafa!!
 

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Bagels received by members of the Big Four:

Federer (4)

2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6

Nadal (14)

2017 Miami R32 vs Kohlschreiber: 0-6, 6-2, 6-3
2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6

Djokovic (8)

2016 Rome 3R vs Bellucci: 0-6, 6-3, 6-2
2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5

2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6

Murray (13)

2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2

2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6

(Green: bageled player won the match)

(As of 2017 Miami)


Wow... this is very impressive. Most of Fed's are in the early part of his career (expect for that one with Nadal)...

I am impressed with Nole... shows he could be a real fighter when he is in the right mindset.. otherwise it would just point to the fact that both Nole and Rafa deliberately/tactically tank a losing set to reserve the energy for the rest of the match more often.... (to fans of Nole and Rafa - I don't want to argue... I am not accusing your beloved fav of anything... stats just don't explain why... I am just pointing out possible reason with no real conviction or anything to back up..... the possibility could be either way.. I don't believe this of Rafa anyway. Having watched him play over the years, he fights every point so it is unlikely that he would deliberately tank a losing set)
 

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Re: Bagels received the the "Big 4" - Murray ties Nadal with 13 after Miami defeat

One more for Djokovic at the FO vs Thiem :(
 
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