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The average age of YE top 10 and top 20 since 1973 is calculated here.

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	top 10	top 20
1973	29.28	28.71
1974	28.90	27.76
1975	28.21	27.65
1976	25.24	27.47
1977	26.06	27.25
1978	25.21	26.49
1979	27.23	26.08
1980	24.77	25.87
1981	25.51	26.42
1982	25.56	25.65
1983	25.22	25.99
1984	24.23	24.24
1985	24.51	24.55
1986	24.66	24.50
1987	25.84	25.11
1988	25.11	24.57
1989	23.86	25.98
1990	24.75	24.85
1991	24.61	24.64
1992	23.94	24.61
1993	23.60	24.89
1994	24.63	24.15
1995	24.76	25.24
1996	25.63	25.71
1997	25.15	24.87
1998	25.34	25.83
1999	26.01	25.66
2000	25.63	25.37
2001	26.14	25.46
2002	25.20	25.37
2003	25.27	25.82
2004	25.98	26.07
2005	25.41	25.37
2006	24.93	24.23
2007	24.67	25.69
2008	24.39	24.67
2009	25.07	25.99
2010	26.57	26.42
2011	27.19	26.84
2012	27.45	26.84
2013	28.37	28.50
2014	28.44	28.56
2015	30.24	28.88
2016	28.79	29.00
2017    28.05   29.21
It is apparent that the age of top tennis players is highest since the era of Laver, Rosewall and Nastase....

The average age of top 20 pretty much follows the average age of top 10...

While in the era of Connors/Borg/JMac/Lendl it was common that top 10 players were younger than the rest of the top 20 (between 1975-1992 there were only 2 years with older top 10 than top 20), during recent years the trend is different. Top 10 players are often older than players ranked 10-20, or at least comparable. It is likely caused by Sampras, Agassi, but also Todd Martin, Richard Krajicek or Tim Henman staying in top 10 even in the age of 28+. Recent higher average age is caused by higher age of Federer, Ferrer, Lopez, Robredo, Haas, Youzhny, etc., but it is also necessary to realize that Nadal, Djokovic and Murray are around 30 and can be considered as quite old.

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from 2012 to 2013 the average age was increased in 0.93 years :lol: basically all of top 10 remained the same and became 1 year older
 

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The composition of the Top 10 has NOT changed much in the last few years. Very few new entrants. So, it is no wonder that the average age is ticking up. The usual suspects : Roger, Rafa, Novak, Andy, Berdych have been part of Top 10 for at least 6 years now and this distorts the picture..

** Is there a way, you can find out the average age of NEW entrants to Top 10 during any given year. That will probably show us how fast younger players matured to enter the Top 10.

Thanks for the effort..
 

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The composition of the Top 10 has NOT changed much in the last few years. Very few new entrants. So, it is no wonder that the average age is ticking up. The usual suspects : Roger, Rafa, Novak, Andy, Berdych have been part of Top 10 for at least 6 years now and this distorts the picture..

** Is there a way, you can find out the average age of NEW entrants to Top 10 during any given year. That will probably show us how fast younger players matured to enter the Top 10.

Thanks for the effort..
How does that distort the picture? That's the point isn't it? The younger players aren't good enough to replace them.
 

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In a weak ERA its easier to get into the top10. In a strong ERA you cant fluke as much.

Rafa. Nole . Federer .Murray Berdych and Ferrer have been steady top10 holders. Del Potro also take away that after09 injury.

To enter top10 in strong ERA you have to be damm good and maintain steady road. Or wait for decline. Like Tsonga and in year or 2 Ferrer.

But next crop of champions wont have merits of that, they will get the leftovers from the Big 4 era.
 

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In a weak ERA its easier to get into the top10. In a strong ERA you can't fluke as much.

Rafa. Nole. Federer .Murray Berdych and Ferrer have been steady top10 holders. Del
Potro also take away that after09 injury.

To enter top10 in strong ERA you have to be damm good and maintan steady road. Or
wait for decline. Like Tsonga and in year or 2 Ferrer.

But next crop of champions wont have merits of that , they will get leftovers from the weak era.
 

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Weak, weak era
 

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In a weak ERA its easier to get into the top10. In a strong ERA you cant fluke as much.

Rafa. Nole . Federer .Murray Berdych and Ferrer have been steady top10 holders. Del Potro also take away that after09 injury.

To enter top10 in strong ERA you have to be damm good and maintain steady road. Or wait for decline. Like Tsonga and in year or 2 Ferrer.

But next crop of champions wont have merits of that, they will get the leftovers from the Big 4 era.
In a weak ERA its easier to get into the top10. In a strong ERA you can't fluke as much.

Rafa. Nole. Federer .Murray Berdych and Ferrer have been steady top10 holders. Del
Potro also take away that after09 injury.

To enter top10 in strong ERA you have to be damm good and maintan steady road. Or
wait for decline. Like Tsonga and in year or 2 Ferrer.

But next crop of champions wont have merits of that , they will get leftovers from the weak era.
Wait, what's going on here? :confused:
 

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Game is just different and the whole tennis circuit(players,coaches,academies etc.) needs time to adjust... but you can continue with the weak/strong era nonsense - it has gotten quite amusing.
 

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There really aren't upcoming youngsters who seem to even trouble the top...see how constantly the Top 10 contains the Big Four + Berdych + Ferrer -- the other four usually consists of Tsonga during the past years, Del Potro when playing healthy and 2 Wildcards that usually shuffles every 3 months or so from what I remember. This year though there has been some shifts (Wawrinka winning the AO and MC really has put him quite a "party spoiler" for the usual order, Del Potro is out and Tsonga is struggling) and we now see the #9-#10 spots occupied by shifting of Tsonga/Gasquet/Raonic/Nishikori/Isner and now Gulbis. With #8 Del Potro withdrawing and #7 Ferrer possible in elimination earlier (both at least QFers last year) there might be another shakeup.
 

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I wonder why they don't naturally decline after 28 as they used to do. Some actually gets better after 28 in this era.
I hope there is someone who could say the stat on how many 28+ players who actually had their best ranking when they were over 28.
 

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After 28-29 you start losing a step. In this physical era where grinding is predominant then it should be harder than ever to keep up for the older guys. Doesn't seem to be the case though.
 
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