[Johnny Groove]

Maybe, but Clint still managed to escape from it.

Hollywood can make anything seem real with camera tricks

 

[Patrick López]

I actually like Carlos. Check my posting history if you don't believe. I never posted anything negative about him and usually praised him. Funny, isn't it? Don't make false assumption if you have no idea whom I like and not like.

So you inferred I like Carlos because he's Spanish, while knowing horseshit about me yourself, but get offended if I offer you the same treatment?

Sir, get a grip.

 

[guitarra]

So you inferred I like Carlos because he's Spanish, while knowing horseshit about me yourself, but get offended if I offer you the same treatment?

Sir, get a grip.

Far from getting offended - just denying your false and judgemental assumption. And it's actually you who seems to be irritated without any reason.

There's nothing wring in liking a player because of his nationality - which I implied regarding you and Alcaraz. On the contrary it's rather positive. I also do like some (most) Polish sportsmen. For me it's a form of patriotism.

On other other hand suggesting that someone dislikes a sportsmen because of his nationality (which you suggested in my case) is a whole different story. It's almost like accusing someone of racism.

See the difference?

 

[Kyrginakis]

Musetti is also promising but his game off clay needs work

What??? Musetti won Australian Open and was in US Open final in juniors.

He just started professional career mostly on clay because most itf\challengers in Italy are on clay. But he is universal.

 

[HollowTip]

Watched most of it, Dellien was off, Alcaraz was on. I expected a tighter match, but Dellien couldn't get into his favorite inside-out forehand style at all. Credit for this goes to the youngster and his team, of course.

 

[Kyrginakis]

Credit for this goes to the youngster and his team, of course.

And to all the guys who is withdrawing from AO main draw

 

[HollowTip]

And to all the guys who is withdrawing from AO main draw

Man, we could've made a couple of grand today had you given a hint about this and Taro&Dzhumhur on time. Now it's too late, I don't wanna hear about it

 

[Patrick López]

On the other hand suggesting that someone dislikes a sportsmen because of his nationality (which you suggested in my case) is a whole different story. It's almost like accusing someone of racism.

See the difference?

Oh, let's just pretend it isn't a common ocurrence on this board that some people lump all Spanish players together, as if they were all the same, and disregard them with disdain just because they don't like "Spanish brand of tennis" or are simply Nadal haters and, by extension, hate on anything that barely reeks of Nadal-related.

 

[guitarra]

Oh, let's just pretend it isn't a common ocurrence on this board that some people lump all Spanish players together, as if they were all the same, and disregard them with disdain just because they don't like "Spanish brand of tennis" or are simply Nadal haters and, by extension, hate on anything that barely reeks of Nadal-related.

I don't necessarily entirely disagree with you on that one - just saying it's not true in case of me. That's all.

And while it's obviously a bad thing to happen that also proves how successful Rafa is.

Also, it's not exclusively reserved to Spanish/ Rafa, to a certain extent you could see the same pattern being duplicated with Serbian/ Novak.

 

[enlightenedth]

Great win for him. Good €€€ secured for the MD!

Sure. Money is exactly what this 17 years old kid is thinking about right now. 😂

 

[Johnny Groove]

What??? Musetti won Australian Open and was in US Open final in juniors.

He just started professional career mostly on clay because most itf\challengers in Italy are on clay. But he is universal.

Forget juniors he just lost vs the Dutch guy in QR2

Shots a bit too loopy for hard atm

Alcaraz is already there, reminds me of JCF

 

[Kyrginakis]

Forget juniors he just lost vs the Dutch guy in QR2

Botic made 3 wins and got a place in main draw, it's not a situation where you lost to a rubbish.

 

[Johnny Groove]

Botic made 3 wins and got a place in main draw, it's not a situation where you lost to a rubbish.

I like Musetti and I think he will get there, just not quite yet

 

[The Federest]

Oh, let's just pretend it isn't a common ocurrence on this board that some people lump all Spanish players together, as if they were all the same, and disregard them with disdain just because they don't like "Spanish brand of tennis" or are simply Nadal haters and, by extension, hate on anything that barely reeks of Nadal-related.

Oh, get over yourself.

I think Musetti's tennis is more exciting. That's got nothing to do with being prejudiced, and I'm not going to apologise for it.

 

[Patrick López]

Oh, get over yourself.

I think Musetti's tennis is more exciting. That's got nothing to do with being prejudiced, and I'm not going to apologise for it.

You do you, boy. Hard facts -same point of their careers, Alcaraz is the better player. Not my fault buddy. Musetti might end up the better player when all is said and done, but the better prospect at 17 is Alcaraz. Back then Musetti wasn't even in the top 300.

 

[The Federest]

Not my fault buddy.

What is your fault is not understanding the difference between "exciting" and "accomplished".

I find Musetti's game more exciting and better to watch.

And no amount of thin-skinned bleating about prejudice is going to change my mind.

 

[enlightenedth]

I got the feeling many in this forum will be inclined to hate on Alcaraz just because he's from the same place Rafael Nadal is. I already see some caging him in the claycourt specialist role. A shame really, been following the lad since he was 14 and his game couldn't have less to do with that of Rafa.

What a stupid thing to say. Almost everyone in this forum has said great things about this kid, didn't see one "hate" post towards him at all. Caging him as a claycourter? That's true, I'm reading that a lot. But you can't blame people when Alcaraz has only played like 3 hard court tournaments.

So you inferred I like Carlos because he's Spanish

You do like Carlos mainly because he is Spanish. Let's say 95%. You know it's true. Look at your history, it's all about Spain, Spanish players, absolutely nothing else.
You are the one who posted the following quote:

All in all, Spain has arguably been the European country which has produced the most elite players ever since the nineties.

You do you, boy. Hard facts -same point of their careers, Alcaraz is the better player. Not my fault buddy. Musetti might end up the better player when all is said and done, but the better prospect at 17 is Alcaraz. Back then Musetti wasn't even in the top 300.

That's irrelevant. You could find over 1000 players who were better at 17 than, let's say, Federer. You want my opinion? Musetti has a more spectacular tennis style and I think everyone would agree.

 

[Patrick López]

What a stupid thing to say. Almost everyone in this forum has said great things about this kid, didn't see one "hate" post towards him at all. Caging him as a claycourter? That's true, I'm reading that a lot. But you can't blame people when Alcaraz has only played like 3 hard court tournaments.

Yeah, I can blame people for talking out of their asses as far as his gamestyle is concerned, as I know him way better than any of you, self-righteous connoisseurs. Anyone talking of him as a fish out of water outside of clay has got no clue what he's talking about, and IS prejudiced because Spaniard=claycourter.

You do like Carlos mainly because he is Spanish. Let's say 95%. You know it's true. Look at your history, it's all about Spain, Spanish players, absolutely nothing else.

I have no need to explain myself to you, but my favorite player currently in the top 100 is not even Spanish. Not that it matters -I can like whomever the fuck I want.

You are the one who posted the following quote:



That's irrelevant. You could find over 1000 players who were better at 17 than, let's say, Federer. You want my opinion? Musetti has a more spectacular tennis style and I think everyone would agree.

Anything to say as regards that quote? You seem to have issues with the truth, now don't you? Spain had been a minor tennis nation up to the nineties, and has been the most successful developer of elite players ever since, though it's now getting overcome by others. If that's the best you got to try and discredit me, I pity you.

And no, age/accomplishments relation is not irrelevant, as it is the only objective point of comparison we have right now. Age gap in younger players is a big thing. Not that it necessarily means anything, things do change fast, but it puts into perspective their prospect value.

 

[Patrick López]

What is your fault is not understanding the difference between "exciting" and "accomplished".

I find Musetti's game more exciting and better to watch.

And no amount of thin-skinned bleating about prejudice is going to change my mind.

As I said, you do you. Thin-skinned bleating lol You are one to talk with your uppity display of butthurtness. Not that it should surprise me, coming from a Fedfan.

 

[The Federest]

As I said, you do you.

Yeah, that was gibberish the first time. And it's still gibberish now.