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This thread is a tribute to the immense 'wasted talents' ATP era we are in. Sure we have had big 4 and wawrinka, but several players could've been much more, and the field deeper, if not for injuries or other reasons. These players all showed considerable talent, but careers cut short due to a combination of reasons.

1. David Nalbandian. One of the most pure ball strikers and tacticians. Widely considered to be the biggest waste of talent. A combination of poor fitness, poor motivation and injuries severely limited his potential. He had an early winning record over pre-peak Fed, but gradually evolved into a Slam punching bag on the way to greater Roger success.

Ended slamless, and with only 1 GS final , absolutely being destroyed by lleyton hewitt(!) in the final.

2. Juan Martin Del Porto- Like the aforementioned argentine above, career cut short by injuries in the wrist. Had every attribute to succeed on all surfaces, touted as the next 'big thing'. Good height, good movement considering his height, and immense forehand.
Still ended with a slam, defeating Fed in the final. Has been trying to get back on ATP for years, but one feels the train has left the station.

3. Jo 'willie' tsonga. Made a slam final in emphatic fashion, defeating nadal in straights, in some of the most audacious net play we have witnessed. Looked a super talent with exquisite touch volleys and feel of the court. Forehand and serve looked epic. Was touted as the next big thing. Never made another slam final, but had some key wins over a post peak Fed, and choked versus djoker in the french. Injuries totally hampered his game pushing him back to the 'field' player.

4. Gael 'breakdancer' monfils. Like Tsonga from france, touted as the next big thing, after juniors success. Early indications were he had massive talent, athleticism, and serious firepower from the back court. But this was all for nothing, as monfils possessed neither the application, desired fitness, mental motivation, to succeed. Defensive mindset, injuries at key times also ruined his progress.

5. Marcos Baghdatis - another young gun of the mid 2000s. Was seriously challenging guys like djokovic on grass. Had a good all court game and feel, with serious weaponry off both wings. Made a slam final, taking the 1st set off a nervy Fed, but imploded to crash to a 4 set defeat. Since then it was a big downward trend, and now Marcos is just your token every day journey man that may make a 3rd round at best.

6. Kei Nishikori - Touted as the next big thing after defeating Djokovic in 2014 us open SF. However the victory was over a sub par 'heat' inflicted djoker. His implosion in the F vs Cilic was hugely frustrating to Nishikori fans. Since then it has been a further downhill spiral of poor mental, injuries, lack of fitness contributing. His loss to Tsonga on one of nishikori's best surfaces left a lot to be desired.

7. Andy Murray- the most successful on this list with 2 slams. Touted as the next big thing with an excellent all round game, amazing feel on the backhand and world class returns that are sometimes hailed as the best in the game. However poor tactical decisions, too defensive mindset, 2nd serve issues, and some injuries, have made him into a modern day 'pusher'. Very disappointing loss to a post-peak Fed in Wimbledon 2015, and a 0-12 streak vs Djokovic and Federer since 2013. Should've been a player to have 5+ slams by now.

8. Grigor Dimitrov - down on this list, because i never really believed he had any talent. Just had 1 good season, but never really showed anything special other than making 1 Wimbledon SF. Has been hyped as 'baby fed', but no real results to prove it. Motivation, injuries and poor coaching has cost him.
 

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Kei and Dimitrov are young.. the problem was Nadal Federer and Djok for the most player on your list.

I think the only wast of talent on your list is Gael.

BTW by the criteria that you use you should maybe put Davydenko on your list.
 

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This thread is a tribute to the immense 'wasted talents' ATP era we are in. Sure we have had big 4 and wawrinka, but several players could've been much more, and the field deeper, if not for injuries or other reasons. These players all showed considerable talent, but careers cut short due to a combination of reasons.

1. David Nalbandian. One of the most pure ball strikers and tacticians. Widely considered to be the biggest waste of talent. A combination of poor fitness, poor motivation and injuries severely limited his potential. He had an early winning record over pre-peak Fed, but gradually evolved into a Slam punching bag on the way to greater Roger success.

Ended slamless, and with only 1 GS final , absolutely being destroyed by lleyton hewitt(!) in the final.

2. Juan Martin Del Porto- Like the aforementioned argentine above, career cut short by injuries in the wrist. Had every attribute to succeed on all surfaces, touted as the next 'big thing'. Good height, good movement considering his height, and immense forehand.
Still ended with a slam, defeating Fed in the final. Has been trying to get back on ATP for years, but one feels the train has left the station.

3. Jo 'willie' tsonga. Made a slam final in emphatic fashion, defeating nadal in straights, in some of the most audacious net play we have witnessed. Looked a super talent with exquisite touch volleys and feel of the court. Forehand and serve looked epic. Was touted as the next big thing. Never made another slam final, but had some key wins over a post peak Fed, and choked versus djoker in the french. Injuries totally hampered his game pushing him back to the 'field' player.

4. Gael 'breakdancer' monfils. Like Tsonga from france, touted as the next big thing, after juniors success. Early indications were he had massive talent, athleticism, and serious firepower from the back court. But this was all for nothing, as monfils possessed neither the application, desired fitness, mental motivation, to succeed. Defensive mindset, injuries at key times also ruined his progress.

5. Marcos Baghdatis - another young gun of the mid 2000s. Was seriously challenging guys like djokovic on grass. Had a good all court game and feel, with serious weaponry off both wings. Made a slam final, taking the 1st set off a nervy Fed, but imploded to crash to a 4 set defeat. Since then it was a big downward trend, and now Marcos is just your token every day journey man that may make a 3rd round at best.

6. Kei Nishikori - Touted as the next big thing after defeating Djokovic in 2014 us open SF. However the victory was over a sub par 'heat' inflicted djoker. His implosion in the F vs Cilic was hugely frustrating to Nishikori fans. Since then it has been a further downhill spiral of poor mental, injuries, lack of fitness contributing. His loss to Tsonga on one of nishikori's best surfaces left a lot to be desired.

7. Andy Murray- the most successful on this list with 2 slams. Touted as the next big thing with an excellent all round game, amazing feel on the backhand and world class returns that are sometimes hailed as the best in the game. However poor tactical decisions, too defensive mindset, 2nd serve issues, and some injuries, have made him into a modern day 'pusher'. Very disappointing loss to a post-peak Fed in Wimbledon 2015, and a 0-12 streak vs Djokovic and Federer since 2013. Should've been a player to have 5+ slams by now.

8. Grigor Dimitrov - down on this list, because i never really believed he had any talent. Just had 1 good season, but never really showed anything special other than making 1 Wimbledon SF. Has been hyped as 'baby fed', but no real results to prove it. Motivation, injuries and poor coaching has cost him.
:haha:

will the excuses ever stop?
 

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Kei and Dimitrov are young.. the problem was Nadal Federer and Djok for the most player on your list.

I think the only wast of talent on your list is Gael.

BTW by the criteria that you use you should maybe put Davydenko on your list.
Neither Kei or Dimitrov are young (and I'm talking about 'tennis years') ... They are getting nowhere. Too bad too sad
 

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The only player who you can say what if about is Del Potro, the others had/have their chances and not everyone can be a winner.
 

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Gaël is a good one, love him but he's...well read my sig.
 

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Please add to the list:


Robin was obviously not a completely wasted talent with 10 tour titles and 10 runner-ups including 2 at RG. But after being cut down at prime age of 27, how much more could he have done, especially as Nadal and Federer have been injured/declined, Murray and Del Potro as well?

How much more impact could the Swedish Slammer have had?

Respectfully,
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Del Potro > all
 

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great thread, lot of mediocre players, some with game but just mentally retarded, but most just without game

my only critique of this threads existance is the fact that the majority of players CURRENTLY, like exactly right now for the past few years, are not very talented. talent is void in tennis as far as depth over the past few years

I would argue that the last 5 years or so has been less 'waste of talent' than it has been a void of it or in some cases (Del Potro) injuries
 

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There is a glaring omission of Marat Safin, whose stay the very top of tennis was ended by injury in 2005.
Yep, his career was done in 2005, I was surprised he managed to make a comeback after his 2003 injury but the 2005 one took the cake.

However, he still won 2 slams, made 2 finals, won 5 masters and made 3 masters finals + World Number 1 and Davis Cup champion by the age of 25. So it wasn't that much of a waste I guess. Technically he made most of what little time he had even with his unstable mind.
 

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I think a notable omission is Davydenko. One of the better players to never win a slam.

3 Masters Titles (Won in straight sets against Nadal for 2 of them)
Winner of 2009 WTF
Runner Up 2008 WTF
2 French Open Semi Finals (Lost to Puerta in 2005, i think he could have taken Nadal that year, one of the few players to lead Nadal in head to head, he leads 6-5)
2 US Open Semi Finals
4 Australian Open Quarter Finals
The 2010 QF loss was hard to take, he was up a set and a break against Federer just months after winning the WTF (Where he beat Nadal and Federer), one of the favorites for the tournament. Federer went for a toilet break and Davydenko lost his game lol. That was the last time he made it past the 3rd round of a major, of course he suffered injuries too.

Year end ranking from 2005-09
2005 - 5
2006 - 3
2007 - 4
2008 - 5
2009 - 6
 

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Coria should definitely be on the list. Much more talented claycourter than Nadal, but mentaly very weak.
Good post, Coria was amazing on clay, but mentally awfully weak.

Coria vs Nadal 2005 Rome Final was the best clay court match of the last 10 years for me. Nadal won 6-4, 3-6, 6-3, 4-6, 7-6(6).
 

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actually most people on the list are talented ball strikers, when they are on they "looks" awesome, but this is really an age of defensive game, Nadal Djokovic, Murray very good defensive players, you may look good when playing them, but odds are, you still lose at the end. The slower court speed and racquet technolgy really favors defensive player.

Nishikori's win is legit, he also beat Stan in QF.
 
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