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Federer Ushers in Exciting New Era
By REUTERS


Filed at 3:44 p.m. ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Roger Federer's stunning Wimbledon triumph Sunday had tennis fans drooling and pundits predicting a Pete Sampras-like reign for the young Swiss.

The 21-year-old finally clicked on the big stage to become the first man from his country to win a grand slam singles title and at the same time opened the door for a new brigade of potential grand slam winners.

With Andre Agassi in the twilight of his magical career [Note: Twilight? :eek: The man's Number 1 in the world!] and 14-times grand slam winner Sampras almost certainly never to return, there is suddenly a chance for somebody to seize power in the men's game.

As Lleyton Hewitt has discovered, however, that is much easier said than done.

The Australian became the youngest player to finish the year as world number one in 2001 after beating Sampras to win the U.S. Open. He remained on top throughout 2002 when he claimed the Wimbledon title and he seemed set to dominate.

This year has been a struggle though.

A third round defeat at Roland Garros and a first round exit at Wimbledon have dropped him to five in the rankings, and momentarily out of the limelight.

At 22, however, the tenacious baseliner will probably return even stronger to provide years of fierce competition for Federer and a brigade of young hotshots led by Andy Roddick and Guillermo Coria.

Roddick, still only 20, has already progressed to two grand slam semi-finals this year, the second of which ended in a humbling defeat by Federer at Wimbledon.

POWER AND PERSONALITY

A 0-4 record against the Swiss suggests he still has some way to go, but with Brad Gilbert as coach the powerful young American, once dubbed the ``future of American tennis'' by Sampras, appears to have the power and personality to be a big threat to Federer.

Argentine Coria, 21, broke through this year with sensational performances on clay. He reached the final in Monte Carlo, captured his first Masters Series title in Hamburg, then beat Agassi on the way to the semi-finals of Roland Garros.

There are still question marks over his prowess on hard courts, however, and a true measure of his all-round credentials will come later this year at Flushing Meadow.

Juan Carlos Ferrero's maiden grand slam title at Roland Garros this year marks him out as another potential resident of the world number one slot.

The Spaniard, regarded as a specialist claycourter, has proved himself on a variety of surfaces this year, reaching the Sydney International final before a run to the quarter-finals at the Australian Open.

The 23-year-old then produced his best ever Wimbledon showing, losing to Sebastien Grosjean in the last 16.

Another Spaniard, 17-year-old Rafael Nadal, has already been tipped by John McEnroe to be a top 10 player within a year.

Whether he achieves that feat or not, his results this season suggest he is a big name in the making.

Wins against two former French Open champions, Albert Costa in Monte Carlo and Carlos Moya in Hamburg, made the tennis world sit up and take notice.

He then reached the third round of Wimbledon, showing a willingness to attack the net which sets him aside from many of his compatriots.

Throw into the equation the likes of Russia's injury-hit former U.S. Open winner Marat Safin, still only 23, big-hitting 22-year-old Chilean Fernando Gonzalez and French teen-ager Paul-Henri Mathieu and the future of men's tennis looks an appetizing prospect.
 

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Thanks for posting this article, Tennis Fool. What's your overall impression of it? I think it's a nice cheerleading piece for the casual fan. I like that the author included a lot of international names. I think there are a couple of omissions. But, those names may get some play with time and results.

Two points I disagree with:

*I can't say, yet, that Federer's impressive showing at Wimbledon marks the beginning of his run on majors.

*I never thought that Hewitt had the game to totally dominate the men's game. He definitely had the fighting spirit and the mental toughness, though. His mental toughness also highlighted the fragility of a lot players in his age group. I hope he will regain his moxie. Again, only time will tell.
 

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i seriously resented Pat Mac's comparison of Roger's game to Sampras -- and expected the article to be about that given the title. even Roger insisted that there are serious differences between his game and Sampras'. i don't get the comparison at all. it is actually an insult to Roger who has a MUCH more COMPLETE game than the Android ever dreamed of having IMO.

but i agree that the New Balls are suddenly looking rather firm -- especially if you look beyond the Americans. ;)
 

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jmp said:
Thanks for posting this article, Tennis Fool. What's your overall impression of it? I think it's a nice cheerleading piece for the casual fan.

Well, I've been a frequent critic of the New Balls who, besides Lleyton, I thought had been underperforming for a couple of years, so I'm really excited about this summer. I hope we see more matchups like at Wimby with Scud/Federer, Federer/Roddick, Scud/Grosjean, Raphael/Paradorn, Agassi/Scud, and Grosjean/Ferrero.

I like that the author included a lot of international names.
Reuters is a French-based company. I posted an AP article just now also, and the company is clearly more skeptical of foreign talent.

Two points I disagree with:

*I can't say, yet, that Federer's impressive showing at Wimbledon marks the beginning of his run on majors.
I think that Wimbledon is the start of Federer's run. He's got the monkey off of his back and that arrogant smirk of a Champion on his face.

*I never thought that Hewitt had the game to totally dominate the men's game. He definitely had the fighting spirit and the mental toughness, though. His mental toughness also highlighted the fragility of a lot players in his age group. I hope he will regain his moxie. Again, only time will tell.
I do think Hewitt has the total package, is the best returner behind Agassi, Sampras, and maybe Safin.

If players lived up to their potential I would rank them as follows:
1.Safin
2.Federer
3.Agassi
4.Hewitt
5.Paradorn S.
 

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i seriously resented Pat Mac's comparison of Roger's game to Sampras -- and expected the article to be about that given the title. even Roger insisted that there are serious differences between his game and Sampras'. i don't get the comparison at all. it is actually an insult to Roger who has a MUCH more COMPLETE game than the Android ever dreamed of having IMO.

but i agree that the New Balls are suddenly looking rather firm -- especially if you look beyond the Americans. ;)
TC, Federer is nothing like Sampras. He has personality:eek:

I'm reminded of Saturday, just before the final when NBC decided to show that vomitous piece on King Sampras and his life after tennis. Mary Carillo was the interviewer. I like Mary, but don't quite get her worship of Sampras, who she mentions as the "all-time best tennis player" every chance she gets. I had to change the channel, because I just couldn't sit through anymore Sampras-retirement junk.

McEnroe won't say anything to the contrary, if he says anything at all about Sampras. But this time, he complimented Mary on her piece, and lamented, "I just wish Pete showed some of his personality on the court the way he did in that piece". :eek:
 

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Tennis Fool, I like your line about Federer's arrogant Champion's smirk. ;)

Originally posted by Tennis Fool
I do think Hewitt has the total package, is the best returner behind Agassi, Sampras, and maybe Safin.
I agree that he is a great returner. But, I think he should develop a better serve the way Agassi did over his career. While I've seen him make fabulous shots on the run, would you say that his forehand or backhand are really weapons?

Originally posted by Tennis Fool

If players lived up to their potential I would rank them as follows:

1.Safin
2.Federer
3.Agassi
4.Hewitt
5.Paradorn S.
This is nice! Would you fit any of the other New Balls in 6 - 10.

Originally posted by tennischick
even Roger insisted that there are serious differences between his game and Sampras'. i don't get the comparison at all.
I totally agree! Where are the similarities?!?! I'd be very interested in seeing such an article.

Originally posted by Tennis Fool
I had to change the channel, because I just couldn't sit through anymore Sampras-retirement junk.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Me, too! I'm happy that he's happy. But, I want to see tennis! Mary's production piece reminded me of the profiles NBC over did for the Olympics.
 

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TC, Federer is nothing like Sampras. He has personality:eek:

I'm reminded of Saturday, just before the final when NBC decided to show that vomitous piece on King Sampras and his life after tennis. Mary Carillo was the interviewer. I like Mary, but don't quite get her worship of Sampras, who she mentions as the "all-time best tennis player" every chance she gets. I had to change the channel, because I just couldn't sit through anymore Sampras-retirement junk.

McEnroe won't say anything to the contrary, if he says anything at all about Sampras. But this time, he complimented Mary on her piece, and lamented, "I just wish Pete showed some of his personality on the court the way he did in that piece". :eek:
i thought we were saving the puke-fest for Pandy! :p

actually that piece on the Android was a complete turn-off for me. and i don't think it's only bec i can't stand him, but bec it was SUCH a piece of manipulation. did y'all see the point at which he teared up? and i'm sitting there wondering wtf is he tearing up for? what did Mary say to trigger such emotion? no, i believe that the Android has been taking secret acting lessons from his wiife. who also almost made me puke with her crap about wishing she could still see him play. it was such a false moment. ugh!
 

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Tennis Fool said:
I do think Hewitt has the total package, is the best returner behind Agassi, Sampras, and maybe Safin.

If players lived up to their potential I would rank them as follows:
1.Safin
2.Federer
3.Agassi
4.Hewitt
5.Paradorn S.
Pete has better returns than Lleyton? :eek: Don't think so.

It's surprising to me that you put Srichaphan in your top 5. I mean he's good, but not that good. Too inconsistent. And I would put Federer ahead of Safin, simply because Roger loves to pick apart the Russian's game and has a commanding lead in their H2H. The Hamburg final in 2002 was a prime example.
 

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pete has personality on court, just that he seldom shows it, he is human and a great champion, if you want to see more personality, why not go and watch a movie instead :p , people always wasting time to critise him because they are jealous of his great achievements ;)

roger cannot be compared with sampras right now, he got long ways to go, sampras records may stay forever :D
 

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Good article. Thanks for posting. What I want more than anything is for all the young players (Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, Federer, Roddick, etc.) to step up and compete against each other for major titles. IMO, they all have the talent, to produce some compelling rivalries.
 

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i seriously resented Pat Mac's comparison of Roger's game to Sampras -- and expected the article to be about that given the title. even Roger insisted that there are serious differences between his game and Sampras'. i don't get the comparison at all. it is actually an insult to Roger who has a MUCH more COMPLETE game than the Android ever dreamed of having IMO.

but i agree that the New Balls are suddenly looking rather firm -- especially if you look beyond the Americans. ;)

lol! firm balls indeed! ;) well, the European ones anyway... Ferrero and Federer in particular... :)

I agree w your comment re: Roger having a more complete game than Pete ;) yes and he also has a very appealing personality!
 

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I agree that he is a great returner. But, I think he should develop a better serve the way Agassi did over his career. While I've seen him make fabulous shots on the run, would you say that his forehand or backhand are really weapons?
I don't think Roger needs to develop a better serve as he is able to deflate the big servers with his return game, and thus doesn't need to try to compete with them in that aspect.

I have his semi with Roddick on tape. I only saw the last few games, so I want to see just how he is able to pick apart the big servers.



Would you fit any of the other New Balls in 6 - 10.
It gets a bit tougher after 5, because there are so many deserving players. Plus, I don't want to catch anymore ire of my groupies :eek:

Hell. For sake of argument:
6.Philippousis
7.Grosjean
8.Ferrero
9.Schalken
10.Schuettler (Sjengster: happy? :eek:)
 

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Pete has better returns than Lleyton? :eek: Don't think so.

It's surprising to me that you put Srichaphan in your top 5. I mean he's good, but not that good. Too inconsistent. And I would put Federer ahead of Safin, simply because Roger loves to pick apart the Russian's game and has a commanding lead in their H2H. The Hamburg final in 2002 was a prime example.
I thought about putting Federer #1, but I think Marat, at his best, is unbeatable.

Ok, maybe Paradorn I'd put lower down and put Scud in the top 5.
 

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if you want to see more personality, why not go and watch a movie instead
Actually, going to see Pirates of Caribbean and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen this weekend.

people always wasting time to critise him because they are jealous of his great achievements ;)
Tennischick, stop being so jealous of Pete!
 

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Why on earth are you putting Schalken and Schuettler in the Top 10 just to please me? You haven't given thought to that in the past very much... I should have thought it was quite obvious that neither of those two will ever be in the Top 10 of players with most potential. And you know what? - I couldn't care less about that.

And please stop referring to me and others as your "groupies", it's pitifully unfunny, just like your dismal attempts to make a running joke out of the erroneous predictions of Mal Washington. It stops being funny after you've constantly shoved it down everyone's throats the whole time.

BTW, jmp was referring to Hewitt, not Federer - I mean, it's fairly obvious that Federer doesn't need to develop his serve or groundstrokes, isn't it?
 

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Why on earth are you putting Schalken and Schuettler in the Top 10 just to please me? You haven't given thought to that in the past very much... I should have thought it was quite obvious that neither of those two will ever be in the Top 10 of players with most potential. And you know what? - I couldn't care less about that.
I wasn't putting them in the top 10 to please you. I'm basing it on their results within the last year and have come to the decision (gag) that they do deserve a place in the bottom of the top 10, for quality and sustainability.

Ugh. Forget the argument. (JMP, told you I was going to get whipped by my groupies).

And please stop referring to me and others as your "groupies"
No, because you are.

like your dismal attempts to make a running joke out of the erroneous predictions of Mal Washington.
Ok. I'll tell the posters who all replied LOL to those threads;)
 

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...Tennischick, stop being so jealous of Pete!
oh puh-lease...what's there to be jealous of? his thinning hair?

and did y'all see the way he was throwing the poor baby into the air? you could see the baby's stomach moving up and down like he had just eaten or something. it was such a stupid thing to do. and the Android looked so awkward doing it you could tell he'd never done it before. the poor baby is probrably still suffering from shaken baby syndrome...:devil:
 

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oh puh-lease...what's there to be jealous of? his thinning hair?

and did y'all see the way he was throwing the poor baby into the air? you could see the baby's stomach moving up and down like he had just eaten or something. it was such a stupid thing to do. and the Android looked so awkward doing it you could tell he'd never done it before. the poor baby is probrably still suffering from shaken baby syndrome...:devil:

LOL. I'm getting the feeling you don't like Sampras. :eek:
 

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if my memory is not wrong, tennischick also likes steffi, then isn't it his biased, speaking of personality, steffi is even more robot like and almost emotionless on court than sampras :confused: :confused: ;), what personality steffi has :confused: :rolleyes:
 

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mimi said:
if my memory is not wrong, tennischick also likes steffi, then isn't it his biased, speaking of personality, steffi is even more robot like and almost emotionless on court than sampras :confused: :confused: ;), what personality steffi has :confused: :rolleyes:
:D :D Mimi, I guess TC is blinded by Pete's winning record over Baldy.
 
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