[IrelandisMine]

Rola had 4 SP in the 1st 1 on Adrian's serve at 6-5 and then was 6-3 up in the tiebreak when he lost this set the match was NID.

Adrian having a great start to the season

 

[CooCooCachoo]

Rola was disastrously bad. Would not have stood a chance of qualifying in any of the brackets.

Adrian

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

Rola was disastrously bad. Would not have stood a chance of qualifying in any of the brackets.

Adrian

He's got experience on hard-courts though at a cross between challenger and ATP tour level. Like you said.

 

[CooCooCachoo]

He's got experience on hard-courts though at a cross between challenger and ATP tour level. Like you said.

He is obviously out of form.

Oh, please go back to the AO Q3 discussion thread and see how wrong you were there too. You're a complete tool.

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

'He's obviously out of form'

No. It's obvious you should WATCH his tennis and how LIMITED his game is for hardcourts. He doesn't take the ball early and step inside the baseline when playing his forehand and faced with a short ball he can attack. He stands just behind the baseline, if not further back dependent on the fucking rally and then waits for the ball to come to his racquet. He is partially aggressive, but with a building control. The forehand isn't really good because of power, it's good because of width, it gets great width. Controlled aggressive forehands into big areas, with decent weight behind them. He is VERY much suited to the claycourts, this is the type of game a claycourter has. An attacking one, but a controlled attacking one, they don't have any AMAZING weapons, but instead consistent weapons which they always have under firm control. That's Rola's game in a nut-shell and it does not suit hardcourts. He will need to expand his game so he can become more successful on hardcourts at a challenger and ATP tour level. College tennis is not remotely anywhere near a challenger level, you are completely deluding yourself. For example take a spot at Denis Kudla and how he played today.

No, you're just a tennis pseudo-intellectual. I didn't bother replying to your stuff, because you're a waste of time and don't get it.

 

[CooCooCachoo]

'He's obviously out of form'

No. It's obvious you should WATCH his tennis and how LIMITED his game is for hardcourts. He doesn't take the ball early and step inside the baseline when playing his forehand and faced with a short ball he can attack. He stands just behind the baseline, if not further back dependent on the fucking rally and then waits for the ball to come to his racquet. He is partially aggressive, but with a building control. The forehand isn't really good because of power, it's good because of width, it gets great width. Controlled aggressive forehands into big areas, with decent weight behind them. He is VERY much suited to the claycourts, this is the type of game a claycourter has. An attacking one, but a controlled attacking one, they don't have any AMAZING weapons, but instead consistent weapons which they always have under firm control. That's Rola's game in a nut-shell and it does not suit hardcourts. He will need to expand his game so he can become more successful on hardcourts at a challenger and ATP tour level. College tennis is not remotely anywhere near a challenger level, you are completely deluding yourself. For example take a spot at Denis Kudla and how he played today.

No, you're just a tennis pseudo-intellectual. I didn't bother replying to your stuff, because you're a waste of time and don't get it.

You're again twisting things like I proved you wrong in the previous discussion (to which you, of course, didn't reply). Either it's a poor rhetorical strategy or you are really poor at comprehensive reading, but either way your reasoning falls flat.

This habit of insulting people and then disappearing when they prove you wrong is real cute. Do us all a favor and just disappear from MTF altogether. You can leave your ill-founded insults at the door

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

Nothing about disappearing mate, you lost the debate and came out with bullshit. A tennis coach came into the discussion and even proved I was correct. That's all I need. You would never admit you were wrong, muppet.

Even now after quoting me you are incapable of debating with me, or entering in a discussion about Rola's game and which surface it is most catered to. You saying Rola is better on hardcourts is not only laughable, it's uneducated. He is a rookie on hardcourt.

Now I'm watching a player that actually has some talent on hardcourt, Thiem. If you wanna debate the technical aspects of Rola's game, go for it, but any of this other boring shit you come with and forget it.

 

[IrelandisMine]

Nothing about disappearing mate, you lost the debate and came out with bullshit. A tennis coach came into the discussion and even proved I was correct. That's all I need. You would never admit you were wrong, muppet.

Even now after quoting me you are incapable of debating with me, or entering in a discussion about Rola's game and which surface it is most catered to. You saying Rola is better on hardcourts is not only laughable, it's uneducated. He is a rookie on hardcourt.

Now I'm watching a player that actually has some talent on hardcourt, Thiem. If you wanna debate the technical aspects of Rola's game, go for it, but any of this other boring shit you come with and forget it.

Rola says Hc is his favourite and best surface and even has it on ATP site he has only won 1 CH title and it was on HC. Nobody is saying Rola is a very good player but his best surface is HC and he is not at his best this year.
Why you bring up Thiem ?? Nobody thinks Rola is better even on HC

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

Rola says Hc is his favourite and best surface and even has it on ATP site he has only won 1 CH title and it was on HC. Nobody is saying Rola is a very good player but his best surface is HC and he is not at his best this year.
Why you bring up Thiem ?? Nobody thinks Rola is better even on HC

Okay. I will explain, as you seem to be dying to get involved even though you weren't here.

Basically, this guy believes American college tennis to be at the same level of challenger tournaments. He believes college players and challenger players are at the same level. This, despite clear evidence he is deluding himself. We used Buchanan as an example and how long it took him to move to challengers after moving on from college tennis. Even still he is having to qualify for the odd challenger. He spent a good year or two playing futures. That tells you everything. Kevin Anderson, Steve Johnson and John Isner are exceptional college talents and not only should not be used as part of any argument, but it needs to be realised they were never the finished article as they are now, back then.

 

[nolesfan2011]

Rola was disastrously bad. Would not have stood a chance of qualifying in any of the brackets.

Adrian

disappointing but all the same, Mannarino wasn't too tired to win I guess

 

[out_here_grindin]

Okay. I will explain, as you seem to be dying to get involved even though you weren't here.

Basically, this guy believes American college tennis to be at the same level of challenger tournaments. He believes college players and challenger players are at the same level. This, despite clear evidence he is deluding himself. We used Buchanan as an example and how long it took him to move to challengers after moving on from college tennis. Even still he is having to qualify for the odd challenger. He spent a good year or two playing futures. That tells you everything. Kevin Anderson, Steve Johnson and John Isner are exceptional college talents and not only should not be used as part of any argument, but it needs to be realised they were never the finished article as they are now, back then.

There are far more challenger levels players at the college level than you may realize. Rola played a lot of them his last year at Ohio State. College tennis is played 100% on hard courts so he has a wealth more experience on that surface than clay at this moment. So regardless of how his game may match up technically with a surface it makes sense that he would consider hard courts his favorite surface.

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

There are far more challenger levels players at the college level than you may realize. Rola played a lot of them his last year at Ohio State. College tennis is played 100% on hard courts so he has a wealth more experience on that surface than clay at this moment. So regardless of how his game may match up technically with a surface it makes sense that he would consider hard courts his favorite surface.

Stop bro. This CocoPops dude put claim to hardcourt as being Rola's BEST surface. :lol:

 

[Illusive Man]

'He's obviously out of form'

No. It's obvious you should WATCH his tennis and how LIMITED his game is for hardcourts. He doesn't take the ball early and step inside the baseline when playing his forehand and faced with a short ball he can attack. He stands just behind the baseline, if not further back dependent on the fucking rally and then waits for the ball to come to his racquet. He is partially aggressive, but with a building control. The forehand isn't really good because of power, it's good because of width, it gets great width. Controlled aggressive forehands into big areas, with decent weight behind them. He is VERY much suited to the claycourts, this is the type of game a claycourter has. An attacking one, but a controlled attacking one, they don't have any AMAZING weapons, but instead consistent weapons which they always have under firm control. That's Rola's game in a nut-shell and it does not suit hardcourts. He will need to expand his game so he can become more successful on hardcourts at a challenger and ATP tour level. College tennis is not remotely anywhere near a challenger level, you are completely deluding yourself. For example take a spot at Denis Kudla and how he played today.

No, you're just a tennis pseudo-intellectual. I didn't bother replying to your stuff, because you're a waste of time and don't get it.

Wait, why'd you bet on him then?

 

[SVK]

If the stats are cca right:

Rola on hard - 21 wins and 20 loses (51%)
Rola on clay - 176 wins and 71 loses (71%)

If a player says that surface X is his favourite, it doesn´t always mean, it is also his most successful. Did you read Murray´s ITF profile? Favourite surface: Clay

 

[Long Bunruot]

Wait, why'd you bet on him then?

#match-up
#big forehand backswing
#trader
#muppet of highest smth
#tennis analyst
#basic stuff

 

[Sombrerero loco]

nid. rola starting 2015 pretty badly...

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

#match-up
#big forehand backswing
#trader
#muppet of highest smth
#tennis analyst
#basic stuff

#LoveIt :superlol:

 

[CooCooCachoo]

Nothing about disappearing mate, you lost the debate and came out with bullshit. A tennis coach came into the discussion and even proved I was correct. That's all I need. You would never admit you were wrong, muppet.

Even now after quoting me you are incapable of debating with me, or entering in a discussion about Rola's game and which surface it is most catered to. You saying Rola is better on hardcourts is not only laughable, it's uneducated. He is a rookie on hardcourt.

Now I'm watching a player that actually has some talent on hardcourt, Thiem. If you wanna debate the technical aspects of Rola's game, go for it, but any of this other boring shit you come with and forget it.

Again, you twist my words. I never said he is better on hard. I argued against your claim that he lacks experience ("is a rookie") on the surface, which is completely unfounded and I proved you wrong. I argued that I think he's as comfortable on hard as he is on clay.

You also twist my words regarding college tennis. I said that the top college players can compete with average Challenger players, not that most college tennis players are equal to top Challenger players.

It's a really poor debating skill to make a caricature of your interlocutor's arguments time and time again. It's also a poor rhetorical tactic to use insults. Both approaches only reveal the weaknesses in your own claims. It's not necessary, since we could otherwise have had an interesting debate.

 

[CooCooCachoo]

Stop bro. This CocoPops dude put claim to hardcourt as being Rola's BEST surface. :lol:

Stop twisting my words. I never said this. Go find a quote to substantiate this, please. You'll find none.

 

[CooCooCachoo]

Okay. I will explain, as you seem to be dying to get involved even though you weren't here.

Basically, this guy believes American college tennis to be at the same level of challenger tournaments. He believes college players and challenger players are at the same level.

Again, I never said this. You really should learn to read.