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Should Andy Murray win St.Petersburg he will be world #12 and should he also qualify for Shanghai he should finish the year ranked inside the Top 10.

Next year he hardly has any ranking points to defend in 7 significant tournaments that occur between the Monte Carlo Masters Series event and the U.S. Open.

By the conclusion of the 2008 U.S. Open wwhere do you predict that his ranking will most likely be?

Inside the Top 5 next to Djokovic?
 

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Any reason # 2 is no an option? If you make a poll at least put some thought into it.
Because the one currently occupying #2 wont be giving it away anytime soon.
 

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Well, I went for a pessimistic 7-10 although if I could choose my group of 4 ranking places I would go for 5-8, right in the middle of the ones you chose.

Top 10 is almost guarunteed if he stays healthy in my opinion, he's just too good to not be there.
 

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Peering into my crystal ball, after 08 USO, i see (subject to change)

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic
4. Murray
5. Some other clown, Gasquet, perhaps
 

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Peering into my crystal ball, after 08 USO, i see (subject to change)

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic
4. Murray
5. Some other clown, Gasquet, perhaps
I see the same top 3 but I also see them all within 1500 points of each other as maximum, very possibly less. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had taken the #1 spot earlier in the year before Federer added points at IW and Miami to take it back.

Thing is, as the rest of the game gets more competative with Federer losing more and more competent challengers to the thrown, if Nadal can continue to dominate clay as easily as he's been doing the last few years that block of points he gets will begin to look larger and larger.

So you see Davydenko and Roddick going away huh? Any particular reasons or just a hunch? There's no doubt in my mind that Davydenko is superior to Gasquet on all but grass and Roddick is always going to be stronger at consistent performances in big events because he can hold serve, grind out a break and beat lower ranked opposition in a way Gasquet will never be able to.
 

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I see the same top 3 but I also see them all within 1500 points of each other as maximum, very possibly less. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had taken the #1 spot earlier in the year before Federer added points at IW and Miami to take it back.

Thing is, as the rest of the game gets more competative with Federer losing more and more competent challengers to the thrown, if Nadal can continue to dominate clay as easily as he's been doing the last few years that block of points he gets will begin to look larger and larger.

So you see Davydenko and Roddick going away huh? Any particular reasons or just a hunch? There's no doubt in my mind that Davydenko is superior to Gasquet on all but grass and Roddick is always going to be stronger at consistent performances in big events because he can hold serve, grind out a break and beat lower ranked opposition in a way Gasquet will never be able to.
Roddick I am really unsure of. Hes lost to all the young guns this year, and his "DC till I die" attitude since USO has cost him some points he could have easily earned in Madrid and Paris. He will still serve big and stay in the top 10, no doubt. If Gasquet and Murray do what they're capable of and pull it together, as it seems both have done better this year, Roddick is outclassed and will be in the 6-10 range.

As for Davydenko, i think that is more wishful thinking on my part :p The guy is way too boring and consistent for my tastes. SF/QF of all 30 tourneys he enters cant last forever. Also, the gambling allegations and watchful eyes of ATP might take a toll.
 

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btw, I also see Nadal taking #1 from Federer between AO and IW, if only for a few weeks, but then Federer will gain it back in IW.

The "trinity" next year will be neck and neck all year with Nole and Nadal entering the early portions of their primes and Federer's prime on the tail end
 

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Roddick I am really unsure of. Hes lost to all the young guns this year, and his "DC till I die" attitude since USO has cost him some points he could have easily earned in Madrid and Paris. He will still serve big and stay in the top 10, no doubt. If Gasquet and Murray do what they're capable of and pull it together, as it seems both have done better this year, Roddick is outclassed and will be in the 6-10 range.

As for Davydenko, i think that is more wishful thinking on my part :p The guy is way too boring and consistent for my tastes. SF/QF of all 30 tourneys he enters cant last forever. Also, the gambling allegations and watchful eyes of ATP might take a toll.
Fair thing on Roddick but what I said about the consistency is still true and Gasquet can win a tournament beating Roddick on the way and then lose 1st round three times in a row and if Roddick plugs away with SF's and QF's he will still be ahead. The season is 11 months not just a few spectacular performances and this is coming from a Gasquet fan.

Davydenko is boring on court but his tennis is fantastic, probably the most attacking baseliner in the world who doesn't have a big serve. Well, the thing with Davydenko haters is they all attribute his success to playing all these tourneys but the fact of it is he has tremendous results where it matters most although watching him choke over and over in slam SF's isn't great fun.

Nalbandian is one we will have to watch for. I still don't believe he will come back to the top 8 consistently but I think winning Madrid will have given him belief he may not have had for a long time. I don't think he would've beaten a top form Nadal in Madrid due to confidence but Nadal's weak performance and his great one gave him the confidence and once he had that he was a joy to watch at times.

My own opinion on Murray is that he is going to be like Roddick in that he gets the job done against weaker players and this is probably due to his good tennis brain and variety. He can use whatever he needs to use to get the job done and no it isn't always pretty but that's tennis for you. However, unlike Roddick, I think he has the technical ability to go head to head with the top players and come out on top every now and then. He isn't ever going to be as good as Federer on any surface but he can probably beat Djokovic a certain percentage of the time on all surfaces but clay and the same goes for Nadal.
 

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btw, I also see Nadal taking #1 from Federer between AO and IW, if only for a few weeks, but then Federer will gain it back in IW.

The "trinity" next year will be neck and neck all year with Nole and Nadal entering the early portions of their primes and Federer's prime on the tail end
Big problem for Nadal is that whilst the other two can pick up points all year if Nadal gets injured at the wrong time it is game over for his #1 hopes.

It remains to be seen if he can continue the clay dominance but if he wins two AMS + RG + optional again next year that is going to put him in serious contention for YE#1 because Federer and Djokovic won't completely dominate the hardcouts next year I don't think.
 

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PMSL, Nadal will not be overtaking Fed any time soon.

I'm willing to bet that Djoko will take over Nadal in No.2 position before Nadal takes over Fed.

Nadal simply won't win enough tournaments outside clay to be No.1. Too many players have his number on faster surfaces.
 

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Fair thing on Roddick but what I said about the consistency is still true and Gasquet can win a tournament beating Roddick on the way and then lose 1st round three times in a row and if Roddick plugs away with SF's and QF's he will still be ahead. The season is 11 months not just a few spectacular performances and this is coming from a Gasquet fan.

Davydenko is boring on court but his tennis is fantastic, probably the most attacking baseliner in the world who doesn't have a big serve. Well, the thing with Davydenko haters is they all attribute his success to playing all these tourneys but the fact of it is he has tremendous results where it matters most although watching him choke over and over in slam SF's isn't great fun.

Nalbandian is one we will have to watch for. I still don't believe he will come back to the top 8 consistently but I think winning Madrid will have given him belief he may not have had for a long time. I don't think he would've beaten a top form Nadal in Madrid due to confidence but Nadal's weak performance and his great one gave him the confidence and once he had that he was a joy to watch at times.

My own opinion on Murray is that he is going to be like Roddick in that he gets the job done against weaker players and this is probably due to his good tennis brain and variety. He can use whatever he needs to use to get the job done and no it isn't always pretty but that's tennis for you. However, unlike Roddick, I think he has the technical ability to go head to head with the top players and come out on top every now and then. He isn't ever going to be as good as Federer on any surface but he can probably beat Djokovic a certain percentage of the time on all surfaces but clay and the same goes for Nadal.
Agreed on basically all counts.

Gasquet for a long time has been pegged as "Baby Fed" in that he would have so much talent and potential, and it would manifest itself a few times a year, but hes also a mental headcase and he'll lost 1st round the following week. He's got flair, and that French "Lacoste" mentality of looking good instead of winning. I dont see Richie becoming like Federer winning everything, but im thinking that eventually, his peaks will be greater and his lows will be QF instead of R1. The thing about Gasquet is, I feel, that he needs to get some muscle. The kid is way too skinny to compete at the top level with Nadal and his physique, Federer, who gets alot of shtick for being skinny, but see him in person, and that is not true. And Nole, who constantly shows his 3% body body off whenever he removes derobes.

As for Murray, i see him as a much more consistent player, a smart tactician, someone who "wins ugly" (TM Gilbert) when needed, and a patient shotmaker. I expect him to be able to keep him with the top 3 on hard courts, definitely not clay, and possibly grass.
 

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Big problem for Nadal is that whilst the other two can pick up points all year if Nadal gets injured at the wrong time it is game over for his #1 hopes.

It remains to be seen if he can continue the clay dominance but if he wins two AMS + RG + optional again next year that is going to put him in serious contention for YE#1 because Federer and Djokovic won't completely dominate the hardcouts next year I don't think.
The problem with the 08 schedule is that MC, Barca, Rome, and Hamburg are 4 weeks in a row, then a week off, then RG :eek: (and then Queens, week off, Wimbledon, week off, Stuttgart, Canada, Cincy, just horrible schedule :eek: )

The guy is going to be killing himself getting those points.
 

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PMSL, Nadal will not be overtaking Fed any time soon.

I'm willing to bet that Djoko will take over Nadal in No.2 position before Nadal takes over Fed.

Nadal simply won't win enough tournaments outside clay to be No.1. Too many players have his number on faster surfaces.
He doesnt have to WIN the tourneys, per se. He is w/o a doubt the #2 grass player in the world and should have another stellar W next year, barring injury, and can put in SF efforts on hard court matches

As for his hardcourt credentials, hes not a TOTAL clown on the surface, and i dont expect Federer to win everything in 08. We've begun to see this this year with Canas losses, that Volandri blue moon match, and Nole/Dave in Canada/Madrid.
 
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