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  • 357-368, Djokovic will surpass Gonzales and Renshaw but not Tilden

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Really dove into the archives at thetennisbase.com and worked a good 12-14 hours straight on this. See the attached PDF for my (extensive) work

EDIT-, consulted @Slasher1985's work and have discovered that Laver was actually better than I thought. He actually had 353 weeks, not just 332. Updated numbers and stats:

Bill Tilden, 7 YE #1 368 weeks (314 straight)
Willie Renshaw, 7 YE #1, 366 weeks (313 straight)
Pancho Gonzales, 7 YE #1, 356 weeks (209 straight 333/335)
Rod Laver, 6 YE #1, 353 weeks (319 straight)
Roger Federer, 5 YE #1, 310 weeks (237 straight)
Novak Djokovic, 6 YE #1, 305 weeks (and counting)
Pete Sampras, 6 YE #1, 286 weeks
Jack Kramer, 5 YE #1, 273 weeks
Ivan Lendl, 3 YE #1, 270 weeks
Laurie Doherty, 5 YE #1, 262 weeks
Jimmy Connors, 5 YE #1, 260 weeks
Tony Wilding, 5 YE #1, 244 weeks
Fred Perry, 5 YE #1, 232 weeks
Ken Rosewall, 5 YE #1, 231 weeks (209 straight)
Rafael Nadal, 5 YE #1, 209 weeks
Reggie Doherty, 4 YE #1, 208 weeks
Don Budge, 4 YE #1, 206 weeks

Djokovic needs to hold #1 until Mar 8 2021 to pass Fed with 311
Needs to hold #1 until Jan 3 2022 to pass Laver with 354
Needs to hold #1 until Jan 24 2022 to pass Gonzales with 357
Needs to hold #1 until Apr 4 2022 to pass Renshaw with 367
Needs to hold #1 until Apr 18 2022 to pass Tilden with 369
 

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I voted 333-356. I think Djokovic will pass Fed and Laver, but will fall short of Tilden/Gonzales/Renshaw
 

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Good thing the remaining living Lavertards don’t know how to use the internet, otherwise this would turn into another GOAT debate shitfest.

Also, nice research, appreciate the effort. 👍
 

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Ah these Djoko haters! When No1e is approaching Fed's record they state it's not a record anymore! On a more serious note, good job JG. I'll be 100% satisfied if Djoko passes Fed and gets Open Era/ATP rankings record. Reaching Laver will be more difficult though. I voted 311-331.
 

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Ah these Djoko haters! When No1e is approaching Fed's record they state it's not a record anymore! On a more serious note, good job JG. I'll be 100% satisfied if Djoko passes Fed and gets Open Era/ATP rankings record. Reaching Laver will be more difficult though. I voted 311-331.
Ha well I just wanted to find out the record once and for all
 

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Yeah the open era record is the one that matters here. As long as he passes Federer I'd be happy because that would be huge.

Then according to the rankings the GOAT debate would look as follows:

1) Djokovic
2) Federer




3) Clay Specialist
 

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Good thing the remaining living Lavertards don’t know how to use the internet, otherwise this would turn into another GOAT debate shitfest.

Also, nice research, appreciate the effort. 👍
lol

about topic:
Well, let's assume Nole will be around for 3-4 years at least.Only Thiem and Rafa have consistency to displace him from the top.But then again, only for some time.So 350-400 seems quite possible
 

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lol

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Well, let's assume Nole will be around for 3-4 years at least.Only Thiem and Rafa have consistency to displace him from the top.But then again, only for some time.So 350-400 seems quite possible
Djoker needs to hold until Apr 2022 for the all time weeks record. 2020 the 6th YE #1, and 21 the 7th to tie the top guys. Will be very difficult imo. Prob needs 3/4 of the next 6 slams and he will be undisputed GOAT
 

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The only way I see him even caring about the all time record is if he starts getting close to it. Otherwise he would probably just be happy with surpassing the open era record and retiring somewhere between Federer and Tilden.
 

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Sosososo, Federer holds no record? It's actually held by some dude who played in full length pants?
Yes, Tilden is the GOAT, at least, he has this particular record. And a modern forehand finish. And check out the shoes too
 

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Everything is relevant in this tight race but I look for passing Fed, but iffy on Laver due to being satisfied w/ job done so 👍 for the stats.
 

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Yes, Tilden is the GOAT, at least, he has this particular record. And a modern forehand finish. And check out the shoes too
LOL!... You see this is what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I said no wonder these guys played in their 40's when they put less wear & tear on the body etc etc.

A modern day player would be absolutely covered in blisters before a set was completed playing in those.... but if you prance around and just bunt the ball you'll get by.
 

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Physicality of those remote yesteryears tennis is about the same level as current club play. Any futures player of today would destroy those legends at their peak years if they could play. So obviously any comparison lacks meaning.
 

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Physicality of those remote yesteryears tennis is about the same level as current club play. Any futures player of today would destroy those legends at their peak years if they could play. So obviously any comparison lacks meaning.
Yawn. No

When you look at the ATP page for most weeks at 1, Tilden, Renshaw, etc. are nowhere to be found.
ATP doesn't know a lot of things

LOL!... You see this is what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I said no wonder these guys played in their 40's when they put less wear & tear on the body etc etc.

A modern day player would be absolutely covered in blisters before a set was completed playing in those.... but if you prance around and just bunt the ball you'll get by.
Only Tilden played in his 40s. These guys played 100 plus matches a year, every match 5 sets, no tiebreakers, and everyone played doubles too. So I always have to laugh when people say it was easier then, when modern guys get winded after barely 1 hour vs a top guy

The numbers are the numbers. We are only arguing context
 
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