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The question asked, which was the greatest. I still think it's the 2008 loss to Nadal. In hindsight, it was the end of an era, or perhaps the point of no return in the transition from the Fed era to the multipolar era of today.
 

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The question asked, which was the greatest. I still think it's the 2008 loss to Nadal. In hindsight, it was the end of an era, or perhaps the point of no return in the transition from the Fed era to the multipolar era of today.
Unquestionably the best. It wasn't just the quality of the match - but the build-up from the two previous finals, the fact that Nadal dominated only on clay and Federer on grass giving it a huge significance for the careers of both, and the contrast of styles. It was the classic of classics. These three Wimbledon finals are the reason the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry will never touch the Federer-Nadal rivalry in the public's mind, no matter how many attritional five hour matches they play.
 

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Unquestionably the best. It wasn't just the quality of the match - but the build-up from the two previous finals, the fact that Nadal dominated only on clay and Federer on grass giving it a huge significance for the careers of both, and the contrast of styles. It was the classic of classics. These three Wimbledon finals are the reason the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry will never touch the Federer-Nadal rivalry in the public's mind, no matter how many attritional five hour matches they play.
It could if Djokovic beats Nadal at the FO in a match of similar quality, and if he closes the gap in the GS count. The significance of the Federer-Nadal rivalry is the reversal of roles and shift of power. This has yet to happen in the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry, if it ever does.
 

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It could if Djokovic beats Nadal at the FO in a match of similar quality, and if he closes the gap in the GS count. The significance of the Federer-Nadal rivalry is the reversal of roles and shift of power. This has yet to happen in the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry, if it ever does.
When you put it that way, the significance of Fedal rivalry appears to be that it ceased being a rivalry, while the other rivalry is less significant because the outcome is never a given. :confused:
 

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When you put it that way, the significance of Fedal rivalry appears to be that it ceased being a rivalry, while the other rivalry is less significant because the outcome is never a given. :confused:
Well, yes, in a way. The shift did not happen overnight. It was an epic struggle in which Fed gave ground surface per surface to Nadal. When Djokovic matured and got into the mix, the reversal was complete (in the sense of his former almost total domination of the tour). Indoor hard was the only surface left where he reigned, until Djokovic took it. Of course, he did win at Wimbledon two more times and other tournaments as well. So his resilience and ability to claw his way back into contention is remarkable.
If Novak can keep it together now, the rivalry with Nadal could enter a corresponding phase. If he can finally beat him at FO.
 

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Unquestionably the best. It wasn't just the quality of the match - but the build-up from the two previous finals, the fact that Nadal dominated only on clay and Federer on grass giving it a huge significance for the careers of both, and the contrast of styles. It was the classic of classics. These three Wimbledon finals are the reason the Djokovic-Nadal rivalry will never touch the Federer-Nadal rivalry in the public's mind, no matter how many attritional five hour matches they play.
Too right, because the 2007 final was of higher quality, without a doubt.
 
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