[Teardrop]

Sure but that's not what I meant (comparing to Alca), he actually is a way better player than he was 2 years ago.

Yes he is better. But how far will he go? Maybe he is at his ceiling now and in this case he has most players in the bag but no chance against 3 superiors. I do not think that will give him much satisfaction.

 

[Darth Alcaraz]

im crying 🤣🤣. Ishowspeed did the coin toss

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

3 superiors

U mean 2, he should beat Djokovic gamewise but he is just a NID mental against him.

Rest of your comment, not much to say either ways.

 

[Teardrop]

U mean 2, he should beat Djokovic gamewise but he is just a NID mental against him.

Rest of your comment, not much to say either ways.

No, he does not have the game to beat Djoker. That is where you are wrong. Djoker even at this age is better than him and that tells a lot. It is not "just" th emental aspect of the game where Fritz lacks compared to Djokovic.

 

[R]

Here we go...

 

[Teardrop]

Just look what Djoker did with the big tournaments he cared for this year. Almost SF everywhere including all 4 Slams and 1 masters final. And he he would have been in the final of AO if not for his injury. No way would Zverev have beat him. That is for sure class of the rest of the field minus top 2.

 

[pimpampum]

This is the last chance for Djokovic to salvage his legacy, right now it is stained and ruined for his constant failures against Sinner.

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

No, he does not have the game to beat Djoker. That is where you are wrong. Djoker even at this age is better than him and that tells a lot. It is not "just" th emental aspect of the game where Fritz lacks compared to Djokovic.

I mean, I actually do agree that the mental aspect of the game is overrated, and often stems from (relative) technical inferiorities or gameplay that has relatively less margin of error than the opponent's. Unless it is a very obvious mental meltdown / choke.

Djokovic at 38 may well be superior to Fritz, but it really is not by much. Even the USO QF Fritz had a ton of BPs in the second set onwards and the fourth set he really should have broken back after saving the MPs but made an inexplicable shot choice. Very hard to definitively say that Djokovic is out of Fritz's reach.

Sincaraz is a whole different story, again I don't think the mindset of reaching a ceiling and being unable to beat them does Fritz any good really, so why even get into that line of thinking, his only choice is to bear the possibility of suffering those losses against them. I don't think it is impossible for Fritz to improve either, although he may always be fighting an uphill battle.

 

[Teardrop]

Very entertaining start and both players are enjoying the match so far. Smiles here and there. Respect. Competitive nonetheless.

Regarding Djokovic: Yes he is smashed a lot, has to run endlessly, gets pushed away by Sinner. But maybe he can find a way to hurt Sinner the longer the match goes.

 

[AntiTardDefenseSystem]

Just look what Djoker did with the big tournaments he cared for this year. Almost SF everywhere including all 4 Slams and 1 masters final. And he he would have been in the final of AO if not for his injury. No way would Zverev have beat him. That is for sure class of the rest of the field minus top 2.

He was very unconvincing in the Wimbledon 4R against ADM, for what it's worth. Otherwise I don't really disagree it's pretty much a fact and a testament to how bad the field is rn

 

[Bumsby]

can someone explain how the prize money works?

i understand everyone gets $1.5 for appearing, and the winner gets $6, but how about winning the QF, the SF, or the third place match?

No money in the middle?
If you lose the final you earn as much as those two who tanked the first round?

I don’t think it was like this last year, i remember there were intermediate pots up for grabs

 

[linkgoron]

No, he does not have the game to beat Djoker. That is where you are wrong. Djoker even at this age is better than him and that tells a lot. It is not "just" th emental aspect of the game where Fritz lacks compared to Djokovic.

This is just nonsense. At this stage of both of their careers, there's no doubt that Fritz has the game to beat Djokovic. That doesn't mean that he's better. Players don't win 100% against players even if they're better - but I think that Fritz has a sort of lack of belief against players who are better than him when it gets to the important points. As I've stated before, Fritz should have pushed the WB SF against Alcaraz to a 5th set at least, and even had two set points in the tie-breaker of the 4th set (one on his serve) but couldn't convert.

Fritz is just not mentally strong enough - it's very difficult to win a match with 2/13 BPs.

No money in the middle?
If you lose the final you earn as much as those two who tanked the first round?

I don’t think it was like this last year, i remember there were intermediate pots up for grabs

Yes, everyone except the winner gets the same amount of money. It's the same as last year. IIRC last year all of the players stayed until the closing ceremonies, even if they lost on the first day.

 

[FilipoSVK]

Is this the best serving day Sinner has had in a good long while? Unbelievable stuff.

 

[linkgoron]

Sinner beating Djokovic handily so far, and serving well. 83% 1st serve percentage in the 1st set. Djokovic has had no looks into Sinner's serve at all.

Also - no elbow sleeve, which I failed to notice yesterday. He still wore it at Shanghai.

 

[FilipoSVK]

Sinner beating Djokovic handily so far, and serving well. 83% 1st serve percentage in the 1st set. Djokovic has had no looks into Sinner's serve at all.

Also - no elbow sleeve, which I failed to notice yesterday. He still wore it at Shanghai.

Plus 9 aces. Let's bring that serving to Saturday.

 

[Darth Alcaraz]

This Djokovic is still making at least 2 or 3 slam SFs next year. Just by playing his normal game, even though it’s declined, is good enough to beat majority of players at slams

 

[Darth Alcaraz]

Also, I feel Fritz is likely gonna lose the 3rd place match

 

[Bumsby]

Yes, everyone except the winner gets the same amount of money. It's the same as last year. IIRC last year all of the players stayed until the closing ceremonies, even if they lost on the first day.

ridiculous.

so why do they play before the final? they know they will lose to the other finalist if they’re not sinner or alcaraz so there’s zero incentive

not to mention the third place match lol

also wasn’t there a picture of zverev and tsi^2pas flying home already?

 

[R]

 

[FilipoSVK]

Sinner is destroying Djokovic right now. Insane performance today.