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For me AO, is a very successful tournament. The only loophole is Roger is not on his best form. But I would'nt take anything from Nole because he beats him in straight sets.

Now, 3 more slams are coming, who are the contenders? who are the spoilers?

RG:
1. Rafael Nadal- He is still the King of Clay.
2. Roger Federer- He is still the man to beat on any surface.
3. David Ferrer- I really this guy giving it all at this years RG.
4. Novak Djokovic- I'm not really what he can put on the table comes clay season. ( But who cares? He just won the last slam)

Spoilers: Davidenko, Nalbandian, Tsonga, Gasquet


Wimbledon:
1. Roger Federer- Grass will suits his game better and will be more confident on this surface
far second..................
2. Novak Djokovic- This is a fast court. He knows how to set-up from the baseline and he knows how to volley now.

All others would just be spoilers. I want to put Nadal as a contender but I'm afraid all others (big servers) would beat him in ealier rounds.

US Open:
1. Roger Federer and close second Noval Djokovic.
Nole is being loved now by the US fans and playing the best hardcourt tennis and Roger trying to break Sampras record of 14 slams.
This is gonna be a big fight.

Nalbandian can still come up in the mix if he can get his game together like he did later part of the year last year.

Nadal does'nt come close to a semis in US Open before.


END of the year ranking:
1. Roger Federer
2. Novak Djokovic
3. Rafael Nadal
 

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I'm not sure why you don't think Nadal is a contender at Wimbledon. and why you think Davydenko can be a spoiler on any surface.

And I'm not sure I understand your ranking prediction. You think Roger is still going to rack up more points than anyone else at the end of the year?
 

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I duno, Its just that Nadal at Wimbledon is just a long shot for me considering a lot of big servers comming in now.

As for Roger's ranking, He is too way up! the only way he could be catch is by 2009.
 

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For me AO, is a very successful tournament. The only loophole is Roger is not on his best form. But I would'nt take anything from Nole because he beats him in straight sets.

Now, 3 more slams are coming, who are the contenders? who are the spoilers?

RG:
1. Rafael Nadal- He is still the King of Clay.
2. Roger Federer- He is still the man to beat on any surface.
3. Novak Djokovic- I'm not really what he can put on the table comes clay season. ( But who cares? He just won the last slam)

Spoilers: Davidenko, Nalbandian, Tsonga, Gasquet


Wimbledon:
1. Roger Federer- Grass will suits his game better and will be more confident on this surface
far second..................
2. Novak Djokovic- This is a fast court. He knows how to set-up from the baseline and he knows how to volley now.

All others would just be spoilers. I want to put Nadal as a contender but I'm afraid all others (big servers) would beat him in ealier rounds.

US Open:
1. Roger Federer and close second Noval Djokovic.
Nole is being loved now by the US fans and playing the best hardcourt tennis and Roger trying to break Sampras record of 14 slams.
This is gonna be a big fight.

Nalbandian can still come up in the mix if he can get his game together like he did later part of the year last year.

Nadal does'nt come close to a semis in US Open before.


END of the year ranking:
1. Roger Federer
2. Novak Djokovic
3. Rafael Nadal
Agree in almost everything. I think Djoko will be more consistent on clay cause made better schedule this year and so will be fit enough.
It will be very interesting for Tsonga as I think he can challenge both Fed and Djoko on hard/grass courts. Also will be very interesting to see his games on clay with regard to he played only one pro match (1.rd RG 2005 lost to Roddick!!!)
 

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Agree in almost everything. I think Djoko will be more consistent on clay cause made better schedule this year and so will be fit enough.
It will be very interesting for Tsonga as I think he can challenge both Fed and Djoko on hard/grass courts. Also will be very interesting to see his games on clay with regard to he played only one pro match (1.rd RG 2005 lost to Roddick!!!)

Hasn't Nole only dropped Estoril? Hardly a major change - in fact no change at all because the clay season is one week shorter. He's still due to play at least one round of Davis Cup and 5 hard court tournaments before the clay season starts.
 

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why you think Davydenko can be a spoiler on any surface.
Davydenko should currently be accpeted as the fourth best in the world on clay and he likes aking the ball early, he has better chances than most to beat Nadal on clay (though still slim), see Rome, maybe the best match of the year. He is also probably as good as Federer on clay when he plays well, choked away what should've been a very close 5 setter at RG last year and turned into a straight sets win.

Hilarious that you should challenge his inclusion when he has such credentials and is a good player whereas Tsonga has shown nothing on clay as of yet and it is unlikely his game will suit. Plus Gasquet is nowhere near Davydenko as well.
 
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Davydenko should currently be accpeted as the fourth best in the world on clay and he likes aking the ball early, he has better chances than most to beat Nadal on clay (though still slim), see Rome, maybe the best match of the year. He is also probably as good as Federer on clay when he plays well, choked away what should've been a very close 5 setter at RG last year and turned into a straight sets win.

Hilarious that you should challenge his inclusion when he has such credentials and is a good player whereas Tsonga has shown nothing on clay as of yet and it is unlikely his game will suit. Plus Gasquet is nowhere near Davydenko as well.

My point exactly.
 

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Davydenko should currently be accpeted as the fourth best in the world on clay and he likes aking the ball early, he has better chances than most to beat Nadal on clay (though still slim), see Rome, maybe the best match of the year. He is also probably as good as Federer on clay when he plays well, choked away what should've been a very close 5 setter at RG last year and turned into a straight sets win.

Hilarious that you should challenge his inclusion when he has such credentials and is a good player whereas Tsonga has shown nothing on clay as of yet and it is unlikely his game will suit. Plus Gasquet is nowhere near Davydenko as well.
4th best? Who's the 3rd? Not Nole, surely??
 

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4th best? Who's the 3rd? Not Nole, surely??
Well, the third place is up for grabs I think, Djokovic is still a little behind Davydenko in terms of clay courts but it could be argued that they are close. I said fourth because it is basically impossible to argue that Davydenko is any lower than that.
 

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My bets as far as final results are concerned:
French Open - Nadal
Wimbledon - Roger
US Open - Could go either way: Right now looks like a toss-up between Djoker and Roger. I'm going with Roger at this stage but anything could happen.

As far as the year-end rankings are concerned I don't expect it to be very easy for Roger this time since he's most likely not going to win three slams this year. Even if he ends at #1, it'll be by a very narrow margin and will probably depend greatly on how Djoker fares during the clay season and Rafa during the hard court season.
 

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Well, the third place is up for grabs I think, Djokovic is still a little behind Davydenko in terms of clay courts but it could be argued that they are close. I said fourth because it is basically impossible to argue that Davydenko is any lower than that.

Until I see differently, I'd definitely put him 3rd on clay.

No doubt Nole could have a superb clay season with vastly improved play from last year, but I didn't think he was that impressive on the dirt last season and his RG draw was soft. In my opinion.
 

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Hasn't Nole only dropped Estoril? Hardly a major change - in fact no change at all because the clay season is one week shorter. He's still due to play at least one round of Davis Cup and 5 hard court tournaments before the clay season starts.
Also dropped Rotterdam and Dubai.
http://www.novak-djokovic.com/eng/tournaments/novak_schedule.php

Estoril is one of hardest clay events because of weather conditions (very windy out there). Also he changed his game in terms of shortening points (we will see how it works in clay). He has some bad circumstances last year like playing Hamburg 2 matches in same day (R16 & QF because of rain). So if he concentrates his energy only for clay AMS i think we can expect much better results...
 

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Wimbledon:
1. Roger Federer- Grass will suits his game better and will be more confident on this surface
far second..................
2. Novak Djokovic- This is a fast court. He knows how to set-up from the baseline and he knows how to volley now.

All others would just be spoilers. I want to put Nadal as a contender but I'm afraid all others (big servers) would beat him in ealier rounds.
Gasquet on grass is a huge contender(he has won 2 titles on grass and made a Wimbledon 1/2 final).
I think he would have already troubled Federer last year had it not been for the ridiculous scheduling of the Wimbledon organisers.
It's by the way really hilarious you put Gasquet as a contender for the FO(whereas clay is his worst surface) and not for Wimbledon
 

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Until I see differently, I'd definitely put him 3rd on clay.

No doubt Nole could have a superb clay season with vastly improved play from last year, but I didn't think he was that impressive on the dirt last season and his RG draw was soft. In my opinion.
You could be right but I'm afraid your opinion is based on your disaapointment that's its not Nadal that is taking out Roger outside of clay.

I really think, Novak improved so much specially his serve and his volleys. I think clay season would be very good for him as he could only rack up points to take out nadal as the number 2 in the world.
 

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Gasquet on grass is a huge contender(he has won 2 titles on grass and made a Wimbledon 1/2 final).
I think he would have already troubled Federer last year had it not been for the ridiculous scheduling of the Wimbledon organisers.
It's by the way really hilarious you put Gasquet as a contender for the FO(whereas clay is his worst surface) and not for Wimbledon

Another excuses! There's no doubt that Gasquest is a very talented player but I really dont see him stepping up at bigger matches. Not until he beats a nadal/federer/nole in a Grandslam quarter or semis.
 

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Also dropped Rotterdam and Dubai.
http://www.novak-djokovic.com/eng/tournaments/novak_schedule.php

Estoril is one of hardest clay events because of weather conditions (very windy out there). Also he changed his game in terms of shortening points (we will see how it works in clay). He has some bad circumstances last year like playing Hamburg 2 matches in same day (R16 & QF because of rain). So if he concentrates his energy only for clay AMS i think we can expect much better results...
He's on the entry list for both Rotterdam and Dubai. Which means he's told the TD he's coming, which means if he does withdraw he'll need to be injured or do it well in advance :)

You could be right but I'm afraid your opinion is based on your disaapointment that's its not Nadal that is taking out Roger outside of clay.

I really think, Novak improved so much specially his serve and his volleys. I think clay season would be very good for him as he could only rack up points to take out nadal as the number 2 in the world.
Serve and volley? Yes. Very successful clay tactics.

I also think he has a great chance to be #2 after the clay season, but I don't think he'll win the FO :shrug:
 

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Another excuses! There's no doubt that Gasquest is a very talented player but I really dont see him stepping up at bigger matches. Not until he beats a nadal/federer/nole in a Grandslam quarter or semis.
At Wimbledon,he has made a 1/2 final beating Roddick who has achieved more things on grass than Djokovic or even Nadal(Nadal and Djokovic have still yet to win a tournament on grass).....so i don't see why Djokovic should be rated higher than Gasquet on that surface.
Obviously,on hardcourt and clay,Djokovic is much superior to Gasquet.
 

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Tsonga and Gasquet will be good contenders for Wimbledon...
Gasquet is really strong on grass and Tsonga really has the game to be good on it too.

On the other hand, clay is not their best surface even if gasquet beat federer on it.
There is too much pressure in RG for Gasquet but PHM could be a good contender if he has a decent draw...
 
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