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I don't think the added GIF's will make this appealing for anyone to listen to (if they would actually hear it for the first time).
 

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I heard of this for the very first time.
I know everyone already knows this but having the stats to prove it is nice.

You always have deniers of the obvious.
 

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So you couldn't copy/paste the content? You had to screenshot every single point.

The stats are not new to me. I've seen them before and further emphasise how Djokovic and Federer are more complete players.
 

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It鈥檚 a stupid comparison because it assumes Nadal is the same level of player on all 3 surfaces. He鈥檚 not.

The comparison doesn鈥檛 make sense because since Nadal is way better on Clay, and going further in each tourney (than he would go on other surfaces), he ends up playing the other great players more often there.

If you are always getting to the Final in Clay, it means you are playing someone great in the Semi and Final. You might play 2 great players per Clay tourney

Since Rafa is weaker on Grass and Hard, he鈥檚 not advancing far enough to play many times vs other greats.

Bottomline tho, Nadal鈥檚 dominance on clay is so far above anyone else鈥檚 surface dominance that if you simply made the surfaces 1/3,1/3,1/3, that Rafa would be the undisputed Slam goat.

Novak would have fewer slams with less hard, and Fed would gain a little from more grass
 

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It鈥檚 a stupid comparison because it assumes Nadal is the same level of player on all 3 surfaces. He鈥檚 not.

The comparison doesn鈥檛 make sense because since Nadal is way better on Clay, and going further in each tourney (than he would go on other surfaces), he ends up playing the other great players more often there.

If you are always getting to the Final in Clay, it means you are playing someone great in the Semi and Final. You might play 2 great players per Clay tourney

Since Rafa is weaker on Grass and Hard, he鈥檚 not advancing far enough to play many times vs other greats.

Bottomline tho, Nadal鈥檚 dominance on clay is so far above anyone else鈥檚 surface dominance that if you simply made the surfaces 1/3,1/3,1/3, that Rafa would be the undisputed Slam goat.

Novak would have fewer slams with less hard, and Fed would gain a little from more grass
This is nonsense of course.

Djokovic and Federer is better than Nadull on 2/3 surfaces(and indoors) so if it's 1/3 they would always win more majors(and YEC).
 

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Bottomline tho, Nadal鈥檚 dominance on clay is so far above anyone else鈥檚 surface dominance that if you simply made the surfaces 1/3,1/3,1/3, that Rafa would be the undisputed Slam goat.

Novak would have fewer slams with less hard, and Fed would gain a little from more grass
LOL you've totally missed the point. Dominance is much harder to achieve against stronger opposition.
 

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LOL you've totally missed the point. Dominance is much harder to achieve against stronger opposition.
And on multiple surfaces which is why Nadull is far behind on weeks at number one.
 

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This poster is obsessed with Nadal. What point are you trying to make with this that hasn't already been made a billion times before? Nadal is the greatest clay court player we've ever seen and he's better on clay than he is on hardcourt or grass. We know this. Everybody knows this!

Still doesn't make him just a clay court specialist. How many other tennis players have multiple slams on each of the surfaces and have at least 5 final appearances at every grand slam.
 

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LOL you've totally missed the point. Dominance is much harder to achieve against stronger opposition.

On who decides on which surface there is stronger opposition? You?
 

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This is nonsense of course.

Djokovic and Federer is better than Nadull on 2/3 surfaces(and indoors) so if it's 1/3 they would always win more majors(and YEC).
Nope because Nadal鈥檚 gap on Clay is so far above them that it鈥檚 near automatic he wins every Clay event. Fed/Novak would be splitting Grass. And fewer hard would simply mean Novak wins fewer.

The additional Clay slams Nadal would win would be a bigger number for Nadal, than the additional grass slams that Fed/Novak would split.

So Nadal comes out ahead on Slams if surfaces were 1/3, 1/3, 1/3.
 

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Nope because Nadal鈥檚 gap on Clay is so far above them that it鈥檚 near automatic he wins every Clay event. Fed/Novak would be splitting Grass. And fewer hard would simply mean Novak wins fewer.

The additional Clay slams Nadal would win would be a bigger number for Nadal, than the additional grass slams that Fed/Novak would split.

So Nadal comes out ahead on Slams if surfaces were 1/3, 1/3, 1/3.
Wrong again.

Djokovic and Federer would split only if they play in the same era which is currently the case.

If they didn't play in the same era either one would win more than clay specialist.
 

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It鈥檚 quite simple. Federer (in his prime at least) always made it to the final stages of all 4 slams, Djokovic has always consistently made it to the final stages of all 4 slams. Nadal on the other hand has a lot of early losses at all three non clay slams and thus avoids having to play the other greats very often outside of clay.
 

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I don't think he does this intentionally. Nadal just sucks on hard court, while Djokovic and Federer are also excellent on clay.

This is why H2H is a joke, but everybody knows this already.
 

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I don't think he does this intentionally. Nadal just sucks on hard court, while Djokovic and Federer are also excellent on clay.

This is why H2H is a joke, but everybody knows this already.
So you are saying that Djokovic and Federer are better on clay than Nadull is on grass and HC?
 
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