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Old 04-04-2007, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default Free Alan Johnston Petition - kidnapped BBC journalist in Gaza

You may have seen this on the news recently. A BBC reporter has disappeared - suspected kidnapping. There has been protests in Gaza, London and elsewhere to try and find him. Al Jezeera and the Saudi government is calling for his release.

Below if a link to the BBC site for further info and the second link for a petition.

I think these people are essential they risks themselves so we can know what is really going on it the world. If it wasn't for them imagine what atrocities goverments would commit. Even if it makes no difference having plenty of signatures will send a signal of how important this is.

When you have signed it can you leave a post on this thread so the thread remain prominent.

BBC correspondent Alan Johnston disappeared on his way home from his Gaza City office on 12 March. He is feared kidnapped in the lawless territory, where he is thought to have been the only international correspondent still working. Intensive efforts have been made to secure his release.

For more information
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6518873.stm

To sign the petition
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6518185.stm


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Israel did it to bring bad press to the PA... I can never imagine the peace loving Palestinians ever kidnapping someone...
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Israel did it to bring bad press to the PA... I can never imagine the peace loving Palestinians ever kidnapping someone...
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You may have seen this on the news recently. A BBC reporter has disappeared - suspected kidnapping. There has been protests in Gaza, London and elsewhere to try and find him. Al Jezeera and the Saudi government is calling for his release.

Below if a link to the BBC site for further info and the second link for a petition.

I think these people are essential they risks themselves so we can know what is really going on it the world. If it wasn't for them imagine what atrocities goverments would commit. Even if it makes no difference having plenty of signatures will send a signal of how important this is.

When you have signed it can you leave a post on this thread so the thread remain prominent.

BBC correspondent Alan Johnston disappeared on his way home from his Gaza City office on 12 March. He is feared kidnapped in the lawless territory, where he is thought to have been the only international correspondent still working. Intensive efforts have been made to secure his release.

For more information
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6518873.stm

To sign the petition
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6518185.stm


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Firstly, you have to know to whom this petition should be aimed. Who has kidnapped him exactly?
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:20 PM   #5
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Firstly, you have to know to whom this petition should be aimed. Who has kidnapped him exactly?
A Palestinian group calling itself the Al Tawhid Al Jihad brigade has issued a claim that it has killed BBC Gaza correspondent Alan Johnston.
The BBC says it is aware of the reports and is deeply concerned, but stresses there is no independent verification.
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It reminds me of the kidnapping and murder of the American Daniel Pearl.
Just horrible.
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:17 AM   #7
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Israel did it to bring bad press to the PA... I can never imagine the peace loving Palestinians ever kidnapping someone...

I called it, from british author and former BBC journalist:

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There is a case for saying (repeat a case) that the party with most to gain from Alan Johnston's permanent disappearance was Israel. It would not be the first time that Israeli agents had dressed as Arabs to make a hit.

If Alan Johnston is dead, it's my hope that the BBC at executive management level will rise above its fear of offending Zionism too much and allow its reporters (Frank Gardner and Jeremy Bowen are second to none) to make a full, thorough and honest investigation.
http://alanhartdiary.blogspot.com/20...eally-was.html

Granted its just one guy saying it from his blog, but am sure we will here similar stories before this case is resolved.
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I called it, from british author and former BBC journalist:


http://alanhartdiary.blogspot.com/20...eally-was.html

Granted its just one guy saying it from his blog, but am sure we will here similar stories before this case is resolved.
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:29 PM   #9
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Didn't you know? The Jews are to blame for all the woes of the world nothing new here.....
I think the point Zircofirol was making is this has all gone on for so long both sides has blood on their hands. Journalists should look at all aspects of the story - just because it is less likely to Israeli agents doesn't mean people should ignore the possibility. If they did that then they would be guilty of bigotry against the Palestinians.

It's all part of how silly it's getting now with every religion, country and culture acting angry and offended at the slightest comment they don't like. Effigies are burnt, ambassadors are summoned to apologise and countries products are boycotted - and sometimes innocent people are killed as retribution. It's making everyone afraid to speak and speak the truth, and with that kind of culture we're never going to solve problems and make progress.

No offence intended but you playing the victim is not going to help solve the problem it's just going to hinder the debate and the answer.
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Didn't you know? The Jews are to blame for all the woes of the world nothing new here.....
the reporter is talking about Israel state, not the jew nation.

I'm jew (not in belief) and I'm totally against the terrorist state of israel and those who support them.
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I think the point Zircofirol was making is this has all gone on for so long both sides has blood on their hands. Journalists should look at all aspects of the story - just because it is less likely to Israeli agents doesn't mean people should ignore the possibility. If they did that then they would be guilty of bigotry against the Palestinians.

It's all part of how silly it's getting now with every religion, country and culture acting angry and offended at the slightest comment they don't like. Effigies are burnt, ambassadors are summoned to apologise and countries products are boycotted - and sometimes innocent people are killed as retribution. It's making everyone afraid to speak and speak the truth, and with that kind of culture we're never going to solve problems and make progress.

No offence intended but you playing the victim is not going to help solve the problem it's just going to hinder the debate and the answer.
Oh please. Do me a favour and get off your soap box and spare me the self righteous indignation.

It would be fine if things were as you say they should be but the truth of the matter is the BBC puts so much spin on their reporting where Israel is concerned it borders on outright incitement.

I am assuming you are not aware that they tried/ are trying to supress an internal report about their unabashed bias regarding middle east coverage.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/leg...cle2398870.ece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIPt9...elated&search=

The BBC has a sick obssession to portray Israel in the worst possible light whenever they have the chance and they are not the only ones.

I am not saying Israel is totally blameless in what it does- far from it. But there are two sides to every coin except when this issue is concerned so it seems.

And this coverage is so damaging because it goes beyond condeming a country for its policies- but it actually distorts the boundaries between being against Israel because of its policies into outright antisemitism.

And then people are surprised that the UK is one of the countries with the highest rise in antisemitic acts in the last year.

Here is just one excerpt from the following article:

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Britain suffered the sharpest rise in anti-semitic attacks of any country last year, and British press coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a leading cause, according to an Israeli government report.
Here is the article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...397723,00.html

Some food for thought.
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Some more food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXy0I...elated&search=
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You have said that because some countries are virulently anti semitic and some media agencies are unbalanced that anyone questioning Israel's methods etc must also be racist - as you assumed from Ziroficols post. So therefore no one can question Israels role in the matter because to do so is automatically racist?


Most Westerners (including myself) never even gave a moments thought to Israel being involved in the kidnapping but should journalists jump to conclusions and assume its Hamas or groups like it or should they get the evidence and present it to the public. Ok some may do it in a way you don't like but that doesn't mean all journalists, people etc should censor themselves. You have basically called me and the previous poster racist for saying all avenues should be explored including Israel. No one knows where Alan is and they can't find him in Gaza - as they cast a wider net to find him do you really expect people to ignore Israel altogether?

No one has said Israel did it, no one thinks it's that most likely Israel did it- people were just saying don't ignore the possibility.

As for the BBC - to be honest i've stopped paying reall attention to stories in the middle east any more. There's too much hatred, death and destruction to follow everything and I guess after all this time it just doesn't have the same impact. The only thing I think was Orla Guerin (might be spelt differently) was based in Gaza a few years back and I remember thinking watching her once and thinking that she had lost her impartiality.
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Yea, we keep him in a dungon and that we're going to erase his memory, install some new ones, and send him back to his family saying that Hammas kidnapped him.
OR we're going to keep him a secret for 50 years, or bury his body somewhere.

Oh, and we were behind 9/11, too, or didn't you know that?

Holy fucking hell, I swear that nothing in the entire planet make me see red like nonesense like these.

When I saw the reporter wasn't being returned in a timely fashion, I rolled my eyes and said to my father "we'll get blamed for it for sure"

Since when has Israel kidnapped forigen reporters? It's happening in Gaza all the time, but suddenly Israel is to blame? Another group took responsibility and people still think it's Israel's fault?

Those people doing the kidnapping aren't the Hammas, they are smaller groups with different aggendas, the Hammas wouldn't kidnap a BBC Pro Palestinian reporter, but some of the other groups there might.

No, Israel kidnapping him is NOT a possibility, because it's far fetched, and you don't go for the far-fetched options unless you are sure the more logical options aren't true.

Hey, if you want to consider the unlikely - lets consider this - he was a pro Palestinian reporter, right? Who has most to gain with Israel getting the blame for this? If you can specualte Israel took him, I can speculate he's sitting in one of his Palestinian friends house, leaning back while watching Israel eventually getting blamed for it.

If me bringing up that option really annoy you, that this is how I feel when you bring up the possibility we hold him. Because the thing Israel REALLY NEED right now is piss off the BBC and the UK, all for someone half the world doesn't know/care about, because it's not like forgien press hasn't been kidnapped all over the globe this year.

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A Palestinian group calling itself the Al Tawhid Al Jihad brigade has issued a claim that it has killed BBC Gaza correspondent Alan Johnston.
The BBC says it is aware of the reports and is deeply concerned, but stresses there is no independent verification.
I do hope this is not the case and he has been killed However more encouragingly the Palestinian President has claimed he is still alive!

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Yea, we keep him in a dungon and that we're going to erase his memory, install some new ones, and send him back to his family saying that Hammas kidnapped him.
OR we're going to keep him a secret for 50 years, or bury his body somewhere.

Oh, and we were behind 9/11, too, or didn't you know that?

Holy fucking hell, I swear that nothing in the entire planet make me see red like nonesense like these.

When I saw the reporter wasn't being returned in a timely fashion, I rolled my eyes and said to my father "we'll get blamed for it for sure"

Since when has Israel kidnapped forigen reporters? It's happening in Gaza all the time, but suddenly Israel is to blame? Another group took responsibility and people still think it's Israel's fault?

Those people doing the kidnapping aren't the Hammas, they are smaller groups with different aggendas, the Hammas wouldn't kidnap a BBC Pro Palestinian reporter, but some of the other groups there might.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Some of the BBC's reporting in the Middle East has been extremely biased, I don't know whether they are just pandering to anti-American public opinion? It is pathetic though!
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