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View Poll Results: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia?

Richard Gasquet (#16 in singles, #100 in doubles) 32 91.43%
Sébastien Grosjean (#51 in singles, #132 in doubles) [Forget should get him to w/d from Houston] 9 25.71%
Arnaud Clément (#53 in singles, #25 in doubles) 18 51.43%
Michael Llodra (#79 in singles, #29 in doubles) 17 48.57%
Fabrice Santoro (#57 in singles, #10 in doubles) [Forget should forgive and forget ] 13 37.14%
Paul-Henri Mathieu (#63 in singles, #234 in doubles) 20 57.14%
Gael Monfils (#49 in singles, #399 in doubles) 6 17.14%
Julien Benneteau (#46 in singles, #52 in doubles) 13 37.14%
Gilles Simon (#40 in singles, #213 in doubles) 6 17.14%
Others: Marc Gicquel (#42, #238), Nicolas Mahut (#94, #58), Florent Serra (#66, #163), etc. 3 8.57%
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:48 AM   #61
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Default Re: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia (on clay)?

I wonder if this interview with Guy was done before or after Paulo's match

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The situation must be tough for him.
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:51 AM   #62
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Default Re: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia (on clay)?

BTW, I still don't get how this work...

Can Guy choose Paulo on the first day against Russian No.1 then switch to Seb in the final rubber?
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BTW, I still don't get how this work...

Can Guy choose Paulo on the first day against Russian No.1 then switch to Seb in the final rubber?
i guess that's what the 5th guy is for...

doesn't it depend on the draw whether the 2nd french guy plays first or 2nd on the 3rd day??? (gee, this is sounding complicated!) so it may not be paulo playing the final rubber again.
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Default Re: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia (on clay)?

As far as I know, he is only allowed to have 4 guys play during the tie.
If Richard and Paulo play on the first day and Arnaud and Mika in doubles, he has to pick one of those 4 guys for the last rubber, he can't pick another player. That's always the problem for the US, if Roddick or Blake get injured and can't play on the last day, the US have to pick one of the Bryans for the decisive rubber.

Now if he has Richard and Paulo on the first day and Richard and Mika on the 2nd day, for example, I think he can pick Richard and Seb on the last day (his team would be then: Richard-Paulo-Seb-Mika).
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Default Re: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia (on clay)?

This is confusing

And I thought the draw was only to determine which match will be played first... I thought it goes like this...

1st Day:
No.1 Player of country A vs No.2 Player of country B
No.2 Player of country A vs No.1 Player of country B

3rd Day:
No. 1 Player of country A vs No.1 Player of country B
No. 2 Player of country A vs No.2 Player of country B

So if this is how it works then Paulo could never avoid being the last supper
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That's why it would be interesting to have Benneteau in the team, btw, since he can play both singles and doubles. I mean, Arnaud can play in singles and already did against Russia, it's not as tragic as the Bryans, but he really isn't in great form in singles.

Bennet must be really pissed, especially after this nice little suspense of Forget with the 5th player.
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And I thought the draw was only to determine which match will be played first... I thought it goes like this...

1st Day:
No.1 Player of country A vs No.2 Player of country B
No.2 Player of country A vs No.1 Player of country B

3rd Day:
No. 1 Player of country A vs No.1 Player of country B
No. 2 Player of country A vs No.2 Player of country B

So if this is how it works then Paulo could never avoid being the last supper
Yes, but I think he can switch his no 1 and no 2 players on the last day. Tarpishev does that all the time, doesn't he?

But I'm not so sure, maybe they've changed the rules and what I said is just old stuff.
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That's why it would be interesting to have Benneteau in the team, btw, since he can play both singles and doubles. I mean, Arnaud can play in singles and already did against Russia, it's not as tragic as the Bryans, but he really isn't in great form in singles.

Bennet must be really pissed, especially after this nice little suspense of Forget with the 5th player.
Not just Bennet
Forget has officially pissed off the whole kingdom of France by choosing Paulo in the first place anyway.
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It is a vicious circle for Forget. Whatever he did, will provoke criticism. Only a win will justify his decisions. I think he tried to please everyone: Mathieu for those wanting change, Grosjean for those on the safe side.
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Whatever he does, that's not going to change anything to the outcome, it's like the surface...
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Seb will be the 5th player. Today in l'équipe:

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« Grosjean en cinquième homme »


GUY FORGET s’explique sur sa sélection pour affronter la Russie en quarts de finale,

à Moscou, du 6 au 8 avril.


MIAMI –

de notre envoyée spéciale


« POUR QUELLES raisons n’avez-vous retenu dans un premier temps que Gasquet, Mathieu, Clément et Llodra (*) ?

– La rencontre sera difficile, et parmi tous les paramètres que j’ai pris en ligne de compte, je pense que ce sont ces garçons-là qui sont aujourd’hui les mieux placés. En lisant différents articles depuis quelques jours, je me rends compte que je ne suis pas loin de la vérité, si vérité il y a. Mais la sélection, au fond, c’est secondaire. Ce qui est important, c’est la manière dont les garçons – que ce soit Pierre, Paul ou Jacques – vont conduire leurs matches. C’est seulement à ce prix-là que nous pourrons battre une équipe plus forte sur le papier.

– Vous considérez donc que Gasquet et Mathieu sont plus aptes que Grosjean ?

– Oui… Mais je vais faire venir Grosjean comme cinquième homme. Ce serait dommage de se passer de lui. En moins de quinze jours, il peut augmenter son niveau de jeu considérablement.

– Pourquoi ne pas l’avoir annoncé en même temps que les autres ?

– J’aurais pu vous le dire hier. Mais je voulais me donner le temps de l’annoncer à tous les joueurs concernés, et il y en avait beaucoup à joindre : sept ou huit. Je voulais éviter les fuites. Et le désagrément pour les joueurs d’apprendre leur sort par la bande.

– À qui avez-vous dit qu’il n’était pas pris ?

– À Florent Serra, à Julien Benneteau… J’ai laissé deux messages à Gilles Simon mais, apparemment, je suis tombé sur le portable de sa maman. Je vais essayer de le joindre. J’ai laissé le message à Marc Gicquel. À Gaël Monfils, avec qui j’ai parlé au téléphone. À Fabrice (Santoro), à qui j’ai téléphoné ce matin (hier matin) et à qui je vais parler ici. Plus tous les joueurs qui sont pris. C’est par respect pour eux. Je suis sûr qu’ils auront leurs chances, mais bon, pour le moment, l’équipe est faite. Elle mixte des jeunes et des anciens, des gars qui s’entendent bien, c’est parfait.

– Gasquet “coince” sur les tops 10 cette année, Paul-Henri Mathieu “coince” aujourd’hui (hier) contre Murray après avoir eu deux balles de match... Que doit-on en penser ?

– Paul-Henri Mathieu doit être encore plus… non pas “fantaisiste” mais, en tout cas, plus audacieux pour surprendre l’adversaire. C’est pour ne pas l’avoir été qu’il perd ce match aujourd’hui (hier). Il ne l’a pas perdu sur deux coups, mais on sentait que, depuis quelques jeux, il loupait des occases de rentrer dans le terrain, et c’est Murray qui l’agressait finalement.


« Ce genre

de rencontre se gagne

sur l’expérience »


– Cela ne vous inquiète pas pour la Coupe Davis ?

– Peut-être que, sur la chaise, j’aurais pu l’encourager. On ne le saura jamais. Pour autant, Paul-Henri montre un fonds de jeu et une forme physique qui me plaît. Il n’y a pas beaucoup de gars qui peuvent prétendre être plus forts que “Paulo”.

– Le cas Gasquet : on le place bien au-dessus des autres, mais il n’a pas battu de top 10 cette année…

– C’est vrai. Même s’il a déjà battu des joueurs comme Blake et Federer, il aurait pu en battre plus. Mais ce n’est qu’une question de timing. À un moment, il va le faire. Je n’ai pas le moindre doute, il y aura un déclic. Je ne me vois pas ne pas lui faire confiance. Il “coince”, on ne peut pas dire le contraire, mais sur des détails. Le fonds de jeu, il l’a aussi.

– Quid du fonds de jeu de Grosjean ?

– “Seb”, il a d’autres choses à gérer. Il a une grosse expérience, de grandes victoires derrière lui. Il a besoin de retrouver un peu de punch en coup droit. On va essayer de le lui apporter.

– Allez-vous organiser un stage de préparation ?

– On se retrouve vendredi soir à Paris pour attaquer sur terre battue samedi et dimanche. Si on arrive à récupérer tous les visas, nous partirons dimanche soir pour Moscou.

– En appelant Grosjean, vous allez vous replacer devant un nouveau casse-tête : “Qui pour les deux premiers simples ?” au moment d’annoncer cette fois officiellement quatre joueurs seulement…
– Si je dois garder Sébastien en dehors des quatre, je le ferai.

– Si vous aviez fait rentrer un Benneteau ou un Santoro, vous auriez eu des joueurs peut-être plus aptes à jouer simple ou/et double…

– Effectivement, et j’y ai pensé. Mais ce genre de rencontre se gagne sur l’expérience. C’est bien d’avoir un gars comme “Seb” sous la main. Et je pense que Richard est tout à fait capable de tenir la route sur un double, aux côtés de “Mika” ou d’Arnaud. » – D.B.


(*) Dans un communiqué émanant hier de la FFT, il était précisé que la sélection comportait quatre joueurs (Gasquet, Mathieu, Llodra et Clément) et qu’un cinquième serait « désigné dans les prochains jours ».
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Default Re: DC: Who should Forget select for the tie against Russia (on clay)?

Thanks, Julie. The end of the interview sounds like he is already considering how he can avoid Paulo in the decisive rubber.

As for the situation being a vicious circle, it's true, but it's Forget's fault too if the confidence is eroded and people will criticize his decisions whatever he does. He has taken many disputable decisions in the past, Santoro, no 5th player, no new options tested, poor communication and each tie ends up being a "soap opera" indeed...

Now I partly understand his selection, I think Llodra-Clément are not doing well in singles, but they are in doubles, and PHM is an obvious choice, yesterday's match doesn't change anything imo (he always recovers from this kind of matches + it wasn't only him choking, Murray really suddenly woke up at the end of the 2nd set).

But I agree with Via, there isn't any change at all, Paulo isn't a change. Forget is not trying to please everybody, just sticking to his usual "experience" blabla.

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And concerning his poor communication, some statements of him sound like a provocation. He says again in L'Équipe any other guy than Seb would have lost to Pavel in the first tie ("je suis convaincu qu'à sa place, n'importe qui aurait perdu")... Tons of players have been able to beat Pavel lately, so it's a very strange thing to say when you already have a bunch of other players feeling excluded. He really isn't handling the situation well.
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But I agree with Via, there isn't any change at all, Paulo isn't a change. Forget is not trying to please everybody, just sticking to his usual "experience" blabla.
Maybe I am biased but he could have made changes with the double team. It's a bit more difficult to change the players for the singles, seeing that Simon, Monfils and others have no experience in DC.
Paulo had poor results against Russia but I am convinced it is not irrevocable.
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