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Old 03-06-2007, 07:06 PM   #16
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:41 AM   #17
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:46 AM   #18
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Correct.
The thing of American players I thought about putting a negative bonus for american players playing outside the USA. This bonus would be of -1. And South American players playing in any pŕrt of South America having +2, and playing in their own country +4.
I think with this it should be balanced.
The South American idea doesn't sound right, because then what about Europeans? They should then be getting +2 for anywhere in Europe and +4 for their own country!

Some countries like Romania , Croatia, Russia only have 1 or 2 tournaments and others I'm sure don't have any (I can't think right now).

Also, not sure about the negative bonus outside the USA... the US may have more tournaments than everywhere else... but a neg bonus in EVERY non US tournament might be quite a big disadvantage.

I know it's hard to balance out... but does there really need to be a bonus for home players? Forgive me if I'm sounding annoying, it's just it's a suggestion thread and I'm just voicing some thoughts
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:25 PM   #19
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Its ok, suggest as much as you want.
A bonus for playing at home should be awarded because it is much more realistic.

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What do you think about this?

Usa players playing at home +1
Europeans playing at Europe +1
Europeans playing at home +2
South Americans playing at home +3
South Americans playing at South America +2
Asians playing at Asia +2
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:23 AM   #20
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Its ok, suggest as much as you want.
A bonus for playing at home should be awarded because it is much more realistic.

mmm
What do you think about this?

Usa players playing at home +1
Europeans playing at Europe +1
Europeans playing at home +2
South Americans playing at home +3
South Americans playing at South America +2
Asians playing at Asia +2
hmm it all seems just about right as far as I can see... but Asia should become Australasia because there needs to be an advantage for Australian tournaments/players as well
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I again want to query the use of bonus points.

There seems to have been a lot of confusion at Estoril this week because bonus points have been a lot less than usual. For my singles match during the week I (Pavel) was given 2 bonus points... +1 for my 6th-10th ranking in singles and +1 for being a European playing in Europe. When asked why my +5 points weren't being added as well for my #1 doubles ranking I was told that I would get 6 bonus points for my doubles match but still only the 2 for my singles match.... this is not the way it has worked the past.

I went back to the Miami FMTA thread to find these posts:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...7&postcount=65
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How does the top 5 work? Is it just for singles? and if it is for singles... there is obviously the winner and runner up, the 2 semi-finalists... but next is 4 quarter-finalists so how would you determine who was the 5th best?
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Both Singles and Doubles. Lets say you are #1 in Singles and #1 in Doubles you get points for #1 doubled. This points can be applied both for singles and doubles. The 5th best will be including ties. So all players reaching quarterfinals in singles or better and doubles semifinals or better you get bonus points.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...0&postcount=78
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Seededs:
#1 Joachim Johansson (Sweden)............................110(TB)+5+3 = 118(TB)
#2 Juan Ignacio Chela (Argentina)........................105+3 = 108
#3 Gael Monfils (France).................................110+3 = 113
#4 Mikhail Youzhny (Russia)..............................115(TB)+3+1 = 118(TB)
#5 Andrei Pavel (Romania)................................110(TB)+3 +5 = 118
#6 Flavio Saretta (Brazil)...............................95+3 = 98
#7 Igor Andreev (Russia).................................115(TB)+3 = 118(TB)
#8 Paul Capdeville (Chile)...............................115(TB)+3 = 118
It shows here that singles AND doubles matches bonus points were added together for use in singles AND doubles matches... therefore all the bonus points were wrong for this week because I only got +2 and I saw also that Coria only got +3 when he is joint #1 for doubles so also should have got at least 5 bonus points.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:21 PM   #23
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Get rid of the bonus points.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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The only aspect lacking with bonus points is the clarity. This should be clearly defined within the template for each tournament thread which has not been done lately. All this confusion can easily be avoided. It's upto the managers.
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It should be as it was in Miami, and all other tournaments. The problem was the bonus points were not clear. I passed rankings through the excell to AllezAlejo so not all of us knew the points.

At rome this will be correctly done.
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But bonus points for Rome will be based on last week rankings.
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It should be as it was in Miami, and all other tournaments. The problem was the bonus points were not clear. I passed rankings through the excell to AllezAlejo so not all of us knew the points.

At rome this will be correctly done.
Ok, it's just that you also PMed me telling me that I had 2 bonus points this week when I queried when I should have actually had 7

I hope it will all be fixed up in the future
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Since I am anti-bonus points in a big way, it just makes the game less fair and continues the cycle, but they seem to be here to stay for the moment.

So how about giving bonus points to players who beat the top ones? You know to the players that don't have them, but somehow manage to win.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Propose a system. I am thinkikng about, each time you defeaat a Top5 you earn 1 bonus point for the following 3 tournaments.
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