View Poll Results: A forum for the Italians?
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02-21-2007, 06:20 AM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by lau
They are all chicos latinos and I expect them to be in the Chicos Latinos forum.  They can keep Spadea though
BTW, IMHO Spaniards are Chicos Latinos too  (and Italians and Portuguese too  )
EDIT: ok, on topic.  In my opinion, as long the Italian forum will be an active forum, they have the right to it. I think that should be the only condition to have a national or player´s forum.
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It will be, I think  The Cipolla thread will be kept up to date 
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02-21-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
Thanks for moving this thread, Sjoukje 
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02-21-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
I'm 1000% in favor of it! 
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02-21-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by lau
BTW, IMHO Spaniards are Chicos Latinos too  (and Italians and Portuguese too  )
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The Frenchies (minus the Bretons, the Picards and the Alsatians) and the Romanians are Chicos Latinos as well! 
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02-21-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by delsa
The Frenchies (minus the Bretons, the Picards and the Alsatians) and the Romanians are Chicos Latinos as well! 
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02-21-2007, 07:19 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
The word latino has different meanings in different places. The use that is given to the word in this forum, is the American one (USA). I personally, don't like it. The forum shoud be called "Chicos Latinoamericanos" or "Latin American players" or keep it like it is, and add the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French and Rumanian in it.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Just as, for example, an American of Irish descent is an Irish American and an American of Middle Eastern descent is a Middle Eastern American, an American of Latin American descent is a Latin American American. However, the word Latino has come to be used instead. It is perhaps borrowed from Spanish latino, shortened from latinoamericano.(wikt:latino, m-w)
Latino refers strictly to any American having Latin American background. Although people from Spain self-categorize as latinos in the Spanish language, that translates as "Latin", as the Spanish are one of the Latin peoples of Europe (along with the French, Italians, et al), not of Latin America. Though Latino is often taken to be a synonym with "Hispanic", the two terms are not actually identical.
Perhaps due mostly to the fact that "Latino" is generally recognized, incorrectly, by the average American as a synonym of "Hispanic", some Brazilian Americans (who are Portuguese speakers), when included under the Latino definition may or may not feel comfortable, but the latter seems to be the most common occurrence. Other non-Spanish speaking people originating from other Latin American countries may feel similarly due to the perceived negation of their language and diverse ethnic heritage by the generalization of the term.
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On this topic, I would like an Italian forum if there are posters who would keep it busy. And it seems there are.
Last edited by Hendu : 02-21-2007 at 07:25 PM.
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02-21-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by WillyCañas
The word latino has different meanings in different places. The use that is given to the word in this forum, is the American one (USA). I personally, don't like it. The forum shoud be called "Chicos Latinoamericanos" or "Latin American players" or keep it like it is, and add the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French and Rumanian in it.
On this topic, I would like an Italian forum if there are posters who would keep it busy. And it seems there are.
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Everyone can write something in Wikipedia so it doesn't have to be true.
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02-21-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
 sorry
Well, I don´t like the term "Latino"..., I don´t even think it´s a word (in English I mean)...
I have no problem with the "Chicos Latinos" title, as it is in Spanish  and it is something like "Latin Guys" in English, which are definitely NOT ONLY Latin American players
I do feel a little (just a little) uncomfortable with the apparent equivalence between chicos latinos and only Southamerican players.
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Everyone can write something in Wikipedia so it doesn't have to be true.
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In this case what´s written there is quite accurate. I guess WillyCañas didn´t want to type all that  , I wouldn´t either 
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02-21-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by WillyCañas
On this topic, I would like an Italian forum if there are posters who would keep it busy. And it seems there are.
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I'm here everyday and I'll keep it busy for sure 
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That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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(10) Corey Feldman vs. (12) scarecrows
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02-21-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Everyone can write something in Wikipedia so it doesn't have to be true.
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In this case, it is. Also that use of the word Latino, is spreading in some latin american countries... like Mexico.
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Originally Posted by lau
 sorry
Well, I don´t like the term "Latino"..., I don´t even think it´s a word (in English I mean)...
I have no problem with the "Chicos Latinos" title, as it is in Spanish  and it is something like "Latin Guys" in English, which are definitely NOT ONLY Latin American players
I do feel a little (just a little) uncomfortable with the apparent equivalence between chicos latinos and only Southamerican players.
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yes, yes and yes. I agree.
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I'm here everyday and I'll keep it busy for sure 
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Give them the forum!!!!!

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02-21-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by WillyCañas
Give them the forum!!!!!

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I got nothing to do with it 
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Originally Posted by FormerRafaFan
That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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Originally Posted by l_mac
(10) Corey Feldman vs. (12) scarecrows
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02-21-2007, 08:32 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
Let's finish with this OT. Actually i was wrong as well. For the Frenchies it's minus the Lorrains, Alsacians (Germanics), the Bretons (Celtics) and Créoles (from the DOM-TOMs). Not the Picards who are Latins since millenaries just like the Occitans, Arpitans, Normans, Poitevins-Saintongeais, Roussillonais Catalans, Corsicans and Basques from Iparralde. 
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02-21-2007, 08:57 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
Volandri, Starace, Seppi, Di Mauro, Luzzi, Sanguinetti, Bracciali... it would we good if they could be found in the same forum.
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02-21-2007, 09:01 PM
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Re: Italian Forum
Fognini and Bolelli too 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerRafaFan
That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by l_mac
(10) Corey Feldman vs. (12) scarecrows
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02-22-2007, 05:41 AM
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Re: Italian Forum
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Originally Posted by WillyCañas
Volandri, Starace, Seppi, Di Mauro, Luzzi, Sanguinetti, Bracciali... it would we good if they could be found in the same forum.
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