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Old 03-21-2004, 12:13 AM   #1
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Default Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

"He raised his game at the most crucial time. One or two points separated that match. That's the frustrating part. But it's also the good part, which is I'll make him do it again next time we play."

--Andre on his three set loss to Federer at the 2004 Pacific Life Open
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:24 AM   #2
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"He raised his game at the most crucial time. One or two points separated that match. That's the frustrating part. But it's also the good part, which is I'll make him do it again next time we play."
Oh fuck no!

This gracious, Zen Agassi doesn't work for me.

Fuck sportsmanship, I want the KILLER Agassi who blows people off the court and demoralizes them back. His "quest for excellence" has produced timid losses to Coria, Philli, Fish. He failed to win the big points against Ferrero and Federer twice now in the last 4 months.

Serve better. Hit backhand better. Lo and behold, you'll start winning some of those "frustratingly close" matches.
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:28 AM   #3
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

It's great to see Andre motivated, I'm waiting for some other great matches this year!
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

He is still, even at 34, a top 5 player. Last 4 big tournaments, US/MC/AO/IW, he's gone SF/F/SF/SF, better than anyone except
Federer - granted all on hardcourt, AA's best surface. And he's not getting blown out, save the MC.

The 'near misses' may encourage him. A few breaks
today and he's in the final. I would be shocked if he won another slam though.
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

It is funny that Fed has been winning easily, but the two that can give him a match aren't the young one.
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:46 AM   #6
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Oh fuck no!

This gracious, Zen Agassi doesn't work for me.

Fuck sportsmanship, I want the KILLER Agassi who blows people off the court and demoralizes them back. His "quest for excellence" has produced timid losses to Coria, Philli, Fish. He failed to win the big points against Ferrero and Federer twice now in the last 4 months.

Serve better. Hit backhand better. Lo and behold, you'll start winning some of those "frustratingly close" matches.
Well, gracious, Zen Agassi wasn't there in his loss against Fish, so I doubt that would help his game. In fact, when he becomes more petulant, then I'll begin to worry.
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I think Agassi did a very good job even though he lost.
Before the match begon i thought Agassi would lost in straight sets. I'm very happy that Agassi disproved me
Would've been so much more lovely to see him win though, but Good job to Agassi

And on the retirement part I think it would be wise for Agassi to retire at the end of this year and being very smart i think Agassi will
No offense to anyone, Agassi my idol too, but I would hate for him to go on as Sampras and go on till he loses to everyone.
I think people will respect him more and look up more if he retired while still in 'the blaze of glory' .
Meaning I think he'd better stop when he's still winning and not go on till he can't win no more.
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

But Agassi isn't losing to "everyone".
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

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This gracious, Zen Agassi doesn't work for me.
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Well, way to go Roger. Andre is ready for retirement on one hand, but on the other he is still capable of winning tournaments and reaching semis and finals. He might just turn out to be the male Navratilova in a few years.
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Agassi my idol too, but I would hate for him to go on as Sampras and go on till he loses to everyone.
Is this the same Sampras who is the only player in the open era to play a winning grand slam final as his last official match?
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today and he's in the final
I don't buy it. Loss to Safin in AO Semis or Philli in Wimbledon? Sure, they were Andre's to lose....But this loss to Federer was predetermined. I mean how the HELL did Andre expect to win against a great returner like Roger when he served at 50% in the 3rd set? His serves are ordinary at best, the surface was on the slow side AND still only half of them got in......That has "I do not want to win this match" all over it.

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No offense to anyone, Agassi my idol too, but I would hate for him to go on as Sampras and go on till he loses to everyone.
Huh? Pete won 2000 Wimbledon and made USO Finals in 2000, 2001 before winning it in 2002. Not bad at all for someone who was beaten by "everyone".

If Andre has a chance to win 2 more Slams but the condition is that he would have to play through 2006 to get them, I bet he would do it even if it means early exits at FO and Masters Series events and pretty much falling out of the top 10. He is only 3 Slam Final apperances away from Sampras. He is more vain and ambitious than you give him credit for, and the only way I see him retiring (barring a serious injury of course) is if he really takes this tennis commisioner bullshit seriously or wants to concentrate on politics, etc.

From the fitness spandpoint, Agassi will probably be 36-37 before he gets to the point where Pete was at 32. Fitness is not Agassi's problem, even if he can no longer run balls down like Chang or Coria.

The problem: His backhand has deteriorated in the last 12 months to the point where the 2nd service returns that he used to send for winners, he now merely punches back. Also, his serves are still poor and low % -- something that he could afford in the past when he was smashing winners and passing shots left and right, but as it stands now, unless he becomes one of the most efficent/accurate servers in the game, thus taking some pressure of his ground strokes, he will never be competitive against the big players.

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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

You're always so critical of Andre, AF.
Andre is doing just fine. He lost to the #1 player today...in 3 tight sets to boot. Andre, imo, has never been THE dominant player for very long. But he's always hung around the top 5 or so (save the black hole in '97 of course). He's gonna win a lot and lose a few, usually to the top players. He'll still get his fair share of wins. And who knows, if he goes on a tear or gets a lil lucky, he may still win a big one.
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I'm not informed on how attached Andre is to IW, but I think he started his first official tournament on the tour there (correct me if I'm wrong). But he obviously didn't say goodbye to crowd or stadium yesterday like some said he did at AO. I don't wanna hear the retirement thing again! Ok? Denial!
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Default Re: Retirement? Nah. Losing to Fed only makes Andre hungrier

if Andre had lost to say Labadze, i would be worried. he lost to the #1 player. yes i too would prefer him to win but if you gotta lose, lose to the best i say.
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