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View Poll Results: Which of these players will crack the top 100 in 2007?

Ilia Bozoljac 6 21.43%
Simone Bolelli 3 10.71%
Sam Querrey 15 53.57%
Ernests Gulbis 8 28.57%
Mischa Zverev 10 35.71%
Chris Guccione 2 7.14%
Frederico Gil 0 0%
Marcel Granollers-Pujol 0 0%
Robin Haase 4 14.29%
Marin Cilic 19 67.86%
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:27 PM   #16
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Well done Samuel.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I am glad for Sam, at this point developing his game is more important than climbing up the rankings but he can gain a lot of points before the clay season starts.
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I hope Diego Hartfield. He's 106 or 109, I don't remember.
I would like him breaking into the top 100 aswell. He is a good guy.
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Aren't you the same guy who said that Querrey would be easily defeated in the first round at the Australian Open? Didn't you also say that Gustavo Kuerten should have gotten the WC over Querrey (ridiculous for multiple reasons)? I don't think you should be patting yourself on the back, particularly in light of the fact that you implied that it would take many USTA WCs for Querrey to reach the top 100, when in actuality it only took one (a WC which he proved very worthy of). He will likely finish the year well inside the top 100, and it won't be long before he doesn't need WCs (in fact, he was a direct entry into Delray Beach this week, where he easily won his MDE match).
What happened last year, joker? How many WCs? How did he get into the AO's main draw?

So Kuerten, a 3 GS winner shouldn't get a WC?
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What happened last year, joker? How many WCs? How did he get into the AO's main draw?

So Kuerten, a 3 GS winner shouldn't get a WC?
The question was, 'which of the players listed will enter the top 100 this year?' Your answer: "Querrey probably will because he'll get something like 10-30 WC from the USTA." That statement clearly suggested that Querrey would enter the top 100 only, or primarily, because of many future wild cards. Nothing was said about past wild cards. If your contention is that you meant to say that he will enter the top 100 because of past wild cards, well, that doesn't make sense either in the context of this thread since each player's beginning ranking was a given. The question wasn't, 'how did each player obtain their current ranking?' If you hadn't "tipped your cap," I wouldn't have said anything. But you did, so I did.

About those previous wild cards. Yes, he did receive many WCs last summer, but you don't get very far just by receiving wild cards. You have to do something with them, and he did, which prompted additional wild cards. He also did extremely well on the Challenger circuit, where he won three tournaments and reached the semis of another high-money Challenger. So he certainly earned a lot of points outside of the ATP events. Considering that, it was only a matter of time before he reached the top 100, wild cards or no wild cards. He clearly has game.

Speaking of jokes, how did that Australian Open prediction work out for you? I seem to recall you saying that he would get beat in the first round, 'even by a clay-clourt specialist.' Yep, nice call.

Let me ask you, should Jimmy Connors receive a WC if he decides that he wants to come out of retirement and play one last tournament? After all, he won eight Grand Slam titles. Surely he's more deserving than Kuerten, right? Or maybe current level of performance/the ability to win matches should have something to do with it. And maybe age and potential should have something do with it as well. Querrey surpasses Kuerten in both areas. Kuerten's titles at the French Open are largely irrelevant as it pertains to worthiness of receiving a WC at the AO.

And how about this for a concept? Wild cards are not necessarily intended for the most "deserving" player. That's why they have their name. Even if Kuerten was by most measures the most deserving player (and he wasn't), it would not be wrong or unfair for him not to receive a wild card.

Furthermore, you singled out Querrey when complaining about Kuerten not getting a WC. Why? Querrey had one of the highest rankings among the wild cards (if not the highest). He is also the youngest and arguably the most talented. It hardly seems reasonable to single him out.

I surely hope that you scream at the top of your lungs when Brazil hands out wild cards to lowly ranked players instead of far, far, FAR more deserving players. Because if you don't, one might consider it an example of blatant hypocrisy.

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The question was, 'which of the players listed will enter the top 100 this year?' Your answer: "Querrey probably will because he'll get something like 10-30 WC from the USTA." That statement clearly suggested that Querrey would enter the top 100 only, or primarily, because of many future wild cards. Nothing was said about past wild cards. If your contention is that you meant to say that he will enter the top 100 because of past wild cards, well, that doesn't make sense either in the context of this thread since each player's beginning ranking was a given. The question wasn't, 'how did each player obtain their current ranking?' If you hadn't "tipped your cap," I wouldn't have said anything. But you did, so I did.

About those previous wild cards. Yes, he did receive many WCs last summer, but you don't get very far just by receiving wild cards. You have to do something with them, and he did, which prompted additional wild cards. He also did extremely well on the Challenger circuit, where he won three tournaments and reached the semis of another high-money Challenger. So he certainly earned a lot of points outside of the ATP events. Considering that, it was only a matter of time before he reached the top 100, wild cards or no wild cards. He clearly has game.

Speaking of jokes, how did that Australian Open prediction work out for you? I seem to recall you saying that he would get beat in the first round, 'even by a clay-clourt specialist.' Yep, nice call.

Let me ask you, should Jimmy Connors receive a WC if he decides that he wants to come out of retirement and play one last tournament? After all, he won eight Grand Slam titles. Surely he's more deserving than Kuerten, right? Or maybe current level of performance/the ability to win matches should have something to do with it. And maybe age and potential should have something do with it as well. Querrey surpasses Kuerten in both areas. Kuerten's titles at the French Open are largely irrelevant as it pertains to worthiness of receiving a WC at the AO.

And how about this for a concept? Wild cards are not necessarily intended for the most "deserving" player. That's why they have their name. Even if Kuerten was by most measures the most deserving player (and he wasn't), it would not be wrong or unfair for him not to receive a wild card.

Furthermore, you singled out Querrey when complaining about Kuerten not getting a WC. Why? Querrey had one of the highest rankings among the wild cards (if not the highest). He is also the youngest and arguably the most talented. It hardly seems reasonable to single him out.

I surely hope that you scream at the top of your lungs when Brazil hands out wild cards to lowly ranked players instead of far, far, FAR more deserving players. Because if you don't, one might consider it an example of blatant hypocrisy.


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The question was, 'which of the players listed will enter the top 100 this year?' Your answer: "Querrey probably will because he'll get something like 10-30 WC from the USTA." That statement clearly suggested that Querrey would enter the top 100 only, or primarily, because of many future wild cards. Nothing was said about past wild cards. If your contention is that you meant to say that he will enter the top 100 because of past wild cards, well, that doesn't make sense either in the context of this thread since each player's beginning ranking was a given. The question wasn't, 'how did each player obtain their current ranking?' If you hadn't "tipped your cap," I wouldn't have said anything. But you did, so I did.

About those previous wild cards. Yes, he did receive many WCs last summer, but you don't get very far just by receiving wild cards. You have to do something with them, and he did, which prompted additional wild cards. He also did extremely well on the Challenger circuit, where he won three tournaments and reached the semis of another high-money Challenger. So he certainly earned a lot of points outside of the ATP events. Considering that, it was only a matter of time before he reached the top 100, wild cards or no wild cards. He clearly has game.

Speaking of jokes, how did that Australian Open prediction work out for you? I seem to recall you saying that he would get beat in the first round, 'even by a clay-clourt specialist.' Yep, nice call.

Let me ask you, should Jimmy Connors receive a WC if he decides that he wants to come out of retirement and play one last tournament? After all, he won eight Grand Slam titles. Surely he's more deserving than Kuerten, right? Or maybe current level of performance/the ability to win matches should have something to do with it. And maybe age and potential should have something do with it as well. Querrey surpasses Kuerten in both areas. Kuerten's titles at the French Open are largely irrelevant as it pertains to worthiness of receiving a WC at the AO.

And how about this for a concept? Wild cards are not necessarily intended for the most "deserving" player. That's why they have their name. Even if Kuerten was by most measures the most deserving player (and he wasn't), it would not be wrong or unfair for him not to receive a wild card.

Furthermore, you singled out Querrey when complaining about Kuerten not getting a WC. Why? Querrey had one of the highest rankings among the wild cards (if not the highest). He is also the youngest and arguably the most talented. It hardly seems reasonable to single him out.

I surely hope that you scream at the top of your lungs when Brazil hands out wild cards to lowly ranked players instead of far, far, FAR more deserving players. Because if you don't, one might consider it an example of blatant hypocrisy.
I don't care about how deserving you think Querrey is, but I'm sure he wouldn't be in the top 100 now if he haven't gotten 1000000 WCs last year.

Tennis Australia does have an agreement with the USTA. I hadn't complained about the others purely because yes, Tennis Australia should support their own players. Hadn't they, do you really think he would get anything? I can complain anyway, as this Querrey guy means nothing to tennis and hasn't accomplished nothing worth of great praise.

And I used Kuerten just as an example. Any multiple slam winner should be a priority to get WCs instead of foreigners.

And about my prediction, yes, Acasuso should have won, but losing to Boredo isn't something to be proud anyway.

And I'm sure the USTA would even give the #1 seed if Connors wanted to come back and play. Don't be fooled.
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I don't care about how deserving you think Querrey is
Right, all you care about is that your guy didn't get a wild card, and you were going to complain about it regardless. Problem is, you essentially based your complaint on the premise that Kuerten was more deserving, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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, but I'm sure he wouldn't be in the top 100 now if he haven't gotten 1000000 WCs last year.
Probably, but not necessarily. He likely would have played more Challengers, where he was racking up a lot of points. He might have achieved a similar ranking anyway. But it's beside the point of this discussion (which I think I sufficiently covered earlier).

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Tennis Australia does have an agreement with the USTA. I hadn't complained about the others purely because yes, Tennis Australia should support their own players.
This doesn't add up. You didn't complain about the Australian players because Australia was merely supporting their own players? What do you think the USTA was doing?!? And what about the French wild card?

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Hadn't they, do you really think he would get anything?
What? Are you saying that Australia was justified in giving WCs to their players because they have fewer tournaments than the U.S.? Do you believe that the USTA should have decided not to support one of their players because they have the opportunity to do so in other tournaments? That would be a strange argument, but even if you believe that, it's hard to argue that Kuerten should have been the first one in line to get the WC

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I can complain anyway, as this Querrey guy means nothing to tennis and hasn't accomplished nothing worth of great praise.
Of course you can complain, regardless of how good or bad Querrey is. And I can point out how misguided your complaints are when they don't have merit.

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It was the USTA's wild card, not Australia's. So it wasn't going to a foreigner from the perspective of the USTA. Was Australia wrong for giving its WC to an Australian at the U.S. Open?

Aging multiple slam winners who have barely played in the last year, who haven't been in the top 200 since the summer of '05, and who have suspect hard court skills these days have no great claim to a WC over a young, up and coming player ranked #130 with a game well suited to hard courts. Not that it matters. Those who possess the WCs are under no obligation to give them to certain type of players.

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And about my prediction, yes, Acasuso should have won, but losing to Boredo isn't something to be proud anyway.
Yes, losing to the #7 player in the world in four sets is an embarrassment. Kuerten would have blown him off the court, I'm sure. "Boredo" just happened to give Federer as tough a match as anybody he faced.

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And I'm sure the USTA would even give the #1 seed if Connors wanted to come back and play. Don't be fooled.
No they wouldn't, but that wasn't the question. The question was, should he get one?
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Two players appear in the top 100 for the first time this week. Gulbis, who was on the poll, climbed 27 spots after winning the Besançon challenger to appear at 99. Hartfield wasn't on the poll because of the age limit, but also managed to crack it by reaching the SF of the Buenos Aires tournament. He appears at 93 this week.

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Well done Ernie the first Latvian to enter top 100.
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Well done Ernie the first Latvian to enter top 100.
Yep, and now he's currently the second youngest player in the top 100, behind Del Potro.
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Ernie representing Latvia and doing them proud and he doesn't have many points to defend either.
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Good stuff from Erndawg.
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