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Old 04-01-2014, 04:34 PM   #1
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Default Who will be winning slams now when everyone is past their peak?

It's a serious thread apparently. Sorry if the title is stupid.

I've been reading these "past his peak" threads and people more or less agree Fed is an Olderer now, who however gained some of his former glory under Edberg's wings (yeah some Fed's matches are entertaining *and* well executed - ofc not these against Nadal).

Rafa is in slight decline now. I think he's still good enough to win matches/tournaments, but it was striking already last year he was not as great as he used to be in regard of level of game. He was a mental goat, he won shitload of titles, but I couldn't escape the thought it was due to opponents' weakness, particularly mental. Rafa was raising his level for a couple of key points, while being average (for his standard) throughout the whole match. This seems to be the case this year as well. Also this year he didn't get the hc wins.

Nole - I think I must agree Nole is past the mental peak. In 2011 he was hungry for these wins. Now he often chokes or starts from losing a set, which puts him in uncomfortable position of chasing. Tennis he showed in later phase in Miami was solid and encouraging to his fans, but it was after a month spent with Vajda and without Becker. He was in visibly worse condition under Becker.

Andy - not sure what to say. I think he still has a mental reserve and just hasn't been successful yet this year because he's coming back after surgery. This Miami result was already respectable. But people say his pushing style will make him estabilish at the current level and not step up for more (but then, who will be the ones beating him now?).

Wawrinka used the good opportunity and won the Australian Open. He was in a god-like mode and had a decent chance of beating even a healthy Rafa in there IMO (though probably he would have choked, but he played beautiful game for 2 weeks and i'm very glad it panned out well for him). But lately he's back to some classic Wawrinka level, like being the magnificent one was only possible for 2 weeks of his life.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:04 PM   #2
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Janowicz got this

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Default Re: Who will be winning slams now when everyone is past their peak?

That's a damn difficult question to ask. I don't know it either.

For now we are left alone with truisms, such as: "It's all on Gulbis' racket."
or "Dimitrov is the future." (and may remain that for another while)

...Federer's and Nadal's generations took over even before somebody asked for or got tired of the respective old guards.
Not so with the present 'new' one. It feels like I've seen Nadal and Djokovic playing eachother 40 times or so - using baseline tennis all the time.
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B-Nard is the only guy being smart about it - pissfarting around having a good time until they all decline and then he can just waltz in and pick up the scraps... Major tactical fails from Dimitrov and co actually trying at the moment... Just no point.. Onya Nardy..
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Default Re: Who will be winning slams now when everyone is past their peak?

This is a very tough one to answer. One would expect the likes of Dimitrov to have a chance, but he has been preceded by a dominant generation that hasn't afforded him opportunities to break through to slam finals etc.

I have my reservations about Raonic and Janowicz but they are players who could easily go on a run in one of the big tournaments. Tomic has the talent, but I'm not the first to think that his attitude is a little suspect.

Looking further down the line, Thiem and Vesely have shown occasional signs of promise but again, I'm not so sure. By the time the top guys stop challenging for the slams, their time may have gone.

Filip Peliwo had an amazing run making the finals of all 4 junior grand slams and winning 2 of them; it will be interesting to see how he transitions on the main ATP tour. At any rate, I hope he fares better than Marton Fucsovics - another one who impressed me a lot as a junior.

I could also put Daniel Berta and Gianni Mina in the same boat as Fucsovics. Yuki Bhambri and Luke Saville are two others that have had great junior careers but may struggle to challenge in the seniors.

As for Kyle Edmund, Oliver Golding and Nick Kyrgios, I won't get my hopes up too high.

To be honest I think at this moment in time the two best prospects for the future seem to be Borna Coric (aged 17) and Gianluigi Quinzi (18).

I'd give Thanasi Kokkinakis (17) an outside shot too as being part of the group that will compete for the slams when the likes of Murray and Djokovic have retired.

Until their time comes, the period when the current crop are still active but continue to decline could see an era of varied slam winners.
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He's been in spiritual retirement for the best part of a decade already.
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Never thought about it this way. Tomic's muggery makes sense now. Clever guy.
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Never thought about it this way. Tomic's muggery makes sense now. Clever guy.
Yeah he just joking that time when he said he wanted to be world no 1 by the end of last year.
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Past peak players still win slams
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Players past their peak can win majors, a lot of majors. Jut ask any Fraudturd, Rogie's peak was 2004 - 2007 but he managed to win 5 more majors after that. What a Spartan!
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Players past their peak can win majors, a lot of majors. Jut ask any Fraudturd, Rogie's peak was 2004 - 2007 but he managed to win 5 more majors after that. What a Spartan!
To be fair, when you've won 12 already, five isn't that many...he's probably disappointed his "post-peak" didn't bring more.
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