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11-21-2006, 06:22 PM
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Suicide Rules Thread
Post things that you think should be up for discussion as rules and we can do polls or have a meeting to decide the rules.
2 things that i personally feel should be discussed are that:
1) To save the time of managers and stop potential late picks is to set a time that all picks must be in by on each day. This could potentially be up to the manager to decide to allow late picks if the match hasn't been played or to make a deadline. Your opinions on this please.
2) The format for Round Robin matches. Opinions & suggestions please.
Any other topics you think need to be brought up. This is only a couple of things to start off with but rules need to be made before the new year.
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CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
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QF: Guadalajara CH
Doubles (with tennisfancroatia unless stated)
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Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH, Astana CH(w/herbal), San Marino CH
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11-25-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
1) I think the only deadline should be the start of each match.
2) 1 per each day still in round robin.
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11-26-2006, 09:09 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by superhoops
Post things that you think should be up for discussion as rules and we can do polls or have a meeting to decide the rules.
2 things that i personally feel should be discussed are that:
1) To save the time of managers and stop potential late picks is to set a time that all picks must be in by on each day. This could potentially be up to the manager to decide to allow late picks if the match hasn't been played or to make a deadline. Your opinions on this please.
2) The format for Round Robin matches. Opinions & suggestions please.
Any other topics you think need to be brought up. This is only a couple of things to start off with but rules need to be made before the new year.
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1) I think the deadline for the day-picks have to be the start of the first match, so we can avoid posts and doubts like 'hey, this was a late pick!!!' , 'no, it was on time!' etc. If they are supporters of both ideas - deadline @ the start of each match and deadline @ the start of the day we can create a poll to decide. For sure this must be а clear decision and to be applied to EVERY tournament, because if it's up to the concrete manager they'll be a lot of misunderstandings all the time
2) The only Round Robin tournament in the year have to be the Masters Cup in my opinion. The RR-format is very complicated for Suicide Tennis, and in fact every week when such a tourney is to be held there is at least one (or two) more tournaments using the traditional format.
In connection with this I wanna put another question for discussion: How many players have to play in final tournament of the year (TMC)? I think they should be the best 8 or 16, because if everyone can play, this tournament will be nothing special, so let only the best with the most constant results the whole year play - that's why this tournament is called 'Masters Cup'

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singles: Winner /Casablanca/ :: Final /Gstaad, Maui CH/ :: QF /Tokyo, Acapulco/
doubles: Final /Cordoba CH, Maui CH/ :: SF /Los Angeles, Adelaide, Costa do Sauipe/ :: QF /Tokyo, 's-Hertogenbosch, Acapulco, Moscow, Beijing/ (with biliana)
PAW race rank 26 (29) :: results
Winner /Houston/ :: Final /Gstaad/ :: SF /Paris/ :: QF /Hamburg, Toronto, Tokyo, Lyon, Chennai, Auckland/
Suicide Tennis rank 9 (8) :: results
Winner /Dubai, Bangkok/ :: Final /Barcelona, Basel/
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11-26-2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
Top 8 only for TMC. I don't think we should set up a poll for the start time for matches as i feel a lot of people would rather before a particalr match starts but its a lot harder for managers if it is like that so stick to before the start of the day's play for me.
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TT record after my long awaited return: 2011
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH
QF: Guadalajara CH
Doubles (with tennisfancroatia unless stated)
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH, Astana CH(w/herbal), San Marino CH
QF:
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11-28-2006, 07:05 AM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by superhoops
Top 8 only for TMC. I don't think we should set up a poll for the start time for matches as i feel a lot of people would rather before a particalr match starts but its a lot harder for managers if it is like that so stick to before the start of the day's play for me.
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Maybe it's better 16 players for the TMC (like PAW), because if only 8 start, the suicide-tourney could end very easily on day 2 or 3 
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TT results
singles: Winner /Casablanca/ :: Final /Gstaad, Maui CH/ :: QF /Tokyo, Acapulco/
doubles: Final /Cordoba CH, Maui CH/ :: SF /Los Angeles, Adelaide, Costa do Sauipe/ :: QF /Tokyo, 's-Hertogenbosch, Acapulco, Moscow, Beijing/ (with biliana)
PAW race rank 26 (29) :: results
Winner /Houston/ :: Final /Gstaad/ :: SF /Paris/ :: QF /Hamburg, Toronto, Tokyo, Lyon, Chennai, Auckland/
Suicide Tennis rank 9 (8) :: results
Winner /Dubai, Bangkok/ :: Final /Barcelona, Basel/
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11-28-2006, 07:42 AM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
I like 16 for the TMC, definitely.
But the idea of picking before the start of any play is really bad if you are sleeping from before the OOP comes out until after play starts...which I do 
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11-28-2006, 04:28 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by shootingstar
I like 16 for the TMC, definitely.
But the idea of picking before the start of any play is really bad if you are sleeping from before the OOP comes out until after play starts...which I do 
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you must sleep a long time then.
In my Tournaments i wouldn't run it unless that is the rule because i hate cheaters and anyone whoo tries to cheat.
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TT record after my long awaited return: 2011
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH
QF: Guadalajara CH
Doubles (with tennisfancroatia unless stated)
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH, Astana CH(w/herbal), San Marino CH
QF:
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11-29-2006, 03:34 AM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
I like the idea of making picks before the start of the days play. It makes the managers lives easier, and it reduces cheating.
I also like the idea of eliminating all RR tournaments (except for the TMC).
Personally, I think the TMC should be 16 players, but either 8 or 16 is okay for me, as long as it's not everyone 
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11-29-2006, 05:08 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by johnnyCanuck
I like the idea of making picks before the start of the days play. It makes the managers lives easier, and it reduces cheating.
I also like the idea of eliminating all RR tournaments (except for the TMC).
Personally, I think the TMC should be 16 players, but either 8 or 16 is okay for me, as long as it's not everyone 
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Actually i agree top 16 as well.
I also think a Suicide Board should be set up to deal with disputes and be comprised of managers with a maximum of 5 members.
The board make-up could be:
me,
yemok,
johnnyCanuck,
ExclaiburII and
shootingstar
what do you guys think?
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TT record after my long awaited return: 2011
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH
QF: Guadalajara CH
Doubles (with tennisfancroatia unless stated)
CHAMPION: Vancouver CH
Runner-Up:
SF: Sopot CH, Astana CH(w/herbal), San Marino CH
QF:
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11-30-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by superhoops
Actually i agree top 16 as well.
I also think a Suicide Board should be set up to deal with disputes and be comprised of managers with a maximum of 5 members.
The board make-up could be:
me,
yemok,
johnnyCanuck,
ExclaiburII and
shootingstar
what do you guys think?
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that's fine by me (of course this may change during 2007).
And I think we cleared up the question about TMC - 16 players enter the final tournament of the year

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TT results
singles: Winner /Casablanca/ :: Final /Gstaad, Maui CH/ :: QF /Tokyo, Acapulco/
doubles: Final /Cordoba CH, Maui CH/ :: SF /Los Angeles, Adelaide, Costa do Sauipe/ :: QF /Tokyo, 's-Hertogenbosch, Acapulco, Moscow, Beijing/ (with biliana)
PAW race rank 26 (29) :: results
Winner /Houston/ :: Final /Gstaad/ :: SF /Paris/ :: QF /Hamburg, Toronto, Tokyo, Lyon, Chennai, Auckland/
Suicide Tennis rank 9 (8) :: results
Winner /Dubai, Bangkok/ :: Final /Barcelona, Basel/
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12-01-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
i dont get something. At RR torunaments each one gets to choose one player per day as normal?
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12-01-2006, 02:19 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by ExcaliburII
i dont get something. At RR torunaments each one gets to choose one player per day as normal?
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No, it's much more comlpicated, that's why the only RR-tournament will be the Masters Cup in Shanghai

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TT results
singles: Winner /Casablanca/ :: Final /Gstaad, Maui CH/ :: QF /Tokyo, Acapulco/
doubles: Final /Cordoba CH, Maui CH/ :: SF /Los Angeles, Adelaide, Costa do Sauipe/ :: QF /Tokyo, 's-Hertogenbosch, Acapulco, Moscow, Beijing/ (with biliana)
PAW race rank 26 (29) :: results
Winner /Houston/ :: Final /Gstaad/ :: SF /Paris/ :: QF /Hamburg, Toronto, Tokyo, Lyon, Chennai, Auckland/
Suicide Tennis rank 9 (8) :: results
Winner /Dubai, Bangkok/ :: Final /Barcelona, Basel/
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12-01-2006, 02:33 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by yemok
No, it's much more comlpicated, that's why the only RR-tournament will be the Masters Cup in Shanghai

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I think its not more complicated. 1 choice per day, 7 days, as usual.
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12-01-2006, 06:37 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
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Originally Posted by ExcaliburII
I think its not more complicated. 1 choice per day, 7 days, as usual.
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it's not as usual, the draw size is decreased for these tournaments, 24 & 32 players, not the usual 32/64
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TT results
singles: Winner /Casablanca/ :: Final /Gstaad, Maui CH/ :: QF /Tokyo, Acapulco/
doubles: Final /Cordoba CH, Maui CH/ :: SF /Los Angeles, Adelaide, Costa do Sauipe/ :: QF /Tokyo, 's-Hertogenbosch, Acapulco, Moscow, Beijing/ (with biliana)
PAW race rank 26 (29) :: results
Winner /Houston/ :: Final /Gstaad/ :: SF /Paris/ :: QF /Hamburg, Toronto, Tokyo, Lyon, Chennai, Auckland/
Suicide Tennis rank 9 (8) :: results
Winner /Dubai, Bangkok/ :: Final /Barcelona, Basel/
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12-01-2006, 07:07 PM
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Re: Suicide Rules Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by superhoops
Actually i agree top 16 as well.
I also think a Suicide Board should be set up to deal with disputes and be comprised of managers with a maximum of 5 members.
The board make-up could be:
me,
yemok,
johnnyCanuck,
ExclaiburII and
shootingstar
what do you guys think?
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Sounds like a good idea to me
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