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View Poll Results: Which TB method do you prefer in TT?

Predict-the-Score system (the current system here) 31 46.27%
Set Ratio system (the current system in WTA TT) 36 53.73%
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:58 PM   #46
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I do concede it is more exciting but that doesn't make it right.
C'mon guys! This game should be fun, exciting, nerve-wrecking, everything that makes the game worth playing for.

It's not like we're playing for money or any prizes here.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:59 PM   #47
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But let's get things straight, I love TT and I aint going anywhere over this minor discussion.
Same here
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:01 PM   #48
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C'mon guys! This game should be fun, exciting, nerve-wrecking, everything that makes the game worth playing for.

It's not like we're playing for money or any prizes here.
I play to test my tipping ability , not to lose out on an unlucky TB
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Admit than CBs may be used but I would rather lose to a CB than an unlucky TB score. Here though I would use TBs over CB's which is what we don't do at the moment. The key point here is the better tipper will win with alot less luck.
yes, the best tipper will win more often because of the CB's, but this will mean that every match won't start from the same playing ground (if you have the CB adv, it's like you're already a set up against your opponent).
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:03 PM   #50
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:04 PM   #51
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I play to test my tipping ability , not to lose out on an unlucky TB
Do you feel like that happens a lot to the same person? It would be fun to see the players TB records.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:36 PM   #52
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I also like the set-ratio system. Like some people allready pointed out: TBs don't serve the initial goal of the game. I rather lose to someone who predicted the set-ratio of the matches better than someone who beats me with something like 6-4 7-6 vs 6-3 7-6. If it's gonna be 6-4 or 6-3 is just a toincoss and has nothing to do with your tipping abbility.

I also rather lose against a player who performed well the last round then against somebody who sucked the round before and just has more luck with his TB score. I also don't agree with the argument that we have to stay as close to the ATP as possible everywhere. Ville pointed out that you have to start with a clean sheet every match (just like in ATP). I don't think this also goes for TT. You should be rewarded by your tipping abbility (CB) rather then your luck (TB).
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Keep it the same, every match isn't going to a TB.
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Is it sure that someone doesnt vote with 2 or 3 accounts ? , because everytime set ratio goes close to pts , after 5 minutes pts is leading again with 5 votes ?
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^ You can check the voters by clicking on the numbers

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$@M, adee-gee, Aguante_el_Gato, alansk, Alx, A_Skywalker, Berdych Fan, biliana, Björki, LK_22, Melvins, mikko, savestheday91, Sheva, yarkko, yemok, ZackBusner 17 43.59%
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yepp , I saw it , everything seems fair , I guess the minds of the people that voted are blind
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:30 PM   #57
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I also like the set-ratio system. Like some people allready pointed out: TBs don't serve the initial goal of the game. I rather lose to someone who predicted the set-ratio of the matches better than someone who beats me with something like 6-4 7-6 vs 6-3 7-6. If it's gonna be 6-4 or 6-3 is just a toincoss and has nothing to do with your tipping abbility.

I also rather lose against a player who performed well the last round then against somebody who sucked the round before and just has more luck with his TB score. I also don't agree with the argument that we have to stay as close to the ATP as possible everywhere. Ville pointed out that you have to start with a clean sheet every match (just like in ATP). I don't think this also goes for TT. You should be rewarded by your tipping abbility (CB) rather then your luck (TB).
It's what makes knockout format exciting, and it's what happens in ATP. Each match is decided in the round it's played. If players want to be rewarded by their old results, they should choose a game with league format. There the best tipper wins. In this system, the winner is the one who plays better than his opponent of each round, not necessarily who is the best.
TB is not only luck, and ties would happen oftenly with set ratios. Matches would be decided before they started cause of CB advantage. And in finals, matches could be decided before the final is played. Is it what players want? The game should let the players with nearly 50% of chances to win each match (CBs first could make it 65, depending on the OOP almost 100%), and predicting scores is the best choice for it to happen.

My vote goes for PTS TBs, and I hope the decision is well made. The game was successful this year, players had 45, 50% chances of winning any match. I don't want this to change.
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Okay, I am willing to stop being stubborn for one second to put forth a compromise that Ville will probably still disagree with

How about THIS ladies and gents,

We come up with our OWN TT scoring system for scores rather than copying PTS.

In the TT scoring system instead of 5 points for correct sets you get 10, just as many as you get for selecting the right winner. That's the only change. This way, set ratio becomes MORE important than the points, but the points are still included. Since I'm probably going to lose this set ratio fight can I at least get people on THIS bandwagon?

I still disagree with using PTS tiebreaks for many many reasons. Mainly because let's say you're 7/8 for the day and so is your opponent, however, stupid you, your one pick wrong is the TB game. Basically you're screwed for the TB and end up getting double penalized for that wrong pick while your opponent who also had one wrong gets lucky because it wasn't the TB match.

But I put forth this compromise on the PTS scoring just so people here don't think I'm a crazy evil beast for wanting a fair game People seem to like PTS (but why don't more of you play it? )
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OMG the poll is tied. Whoever did that, what do you want for Christmas, I'll get you something nice.
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I like Jess' idea. How about that for something new!
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