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Old 07-08-2015, 06:00 AM   #1
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Default Djokovic losing in important Grand Slams after winning the 1st set

In his career, Novak Djokovic is an insane 166-4 in grand slam matches after winning the first set. However, 3 out these 4 were in his past 4 grand slam match losses after winning the first set (other one was to Melzer in RG 2010 after winning the first 2 sets), and all of these were really important matches:

2015 French Open: Wawrinka def. Djokovic 6-4 4-6 3-6 4-6
2014 French Open: Nadal def. Djokovic 6-3 5-7 2-6 4-6
2014 Australian Open: Wawrinka def. Djokovic 6-2 4-6 2-6 6-3 7-9

Does N0le just get tight after winning the first set and choke given the stakes of these matches? Or do players just figure him out?
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Old 07-08-2015, 07:16 AM   #2
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Australian Open 2014 was clearly a choke, I mean, c'mon, just look at the last 2 points of that match, insane choking.

2014 and 2015 wasn't really choking, he just got his ass kicked by a much superior player on that day.
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3/10 thread, thanks for the stats.
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3/10 thread, thanks for the stats.
I would not even give it a 3. More like 1/10.

Pathetic attempt by a butthurt hater.
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His huge choking might also cost him this year's Wimby title. He could have won easily Kanderson in 3, instead he choke two tie breaks, one by DF at 6-6 the other by losing a 4-0 lead against Kanderson (?).
Had to play 5 sets in two days and his fans will call it external factors and yada yada (or is it yoda yoda?).
But in the end, just like his match against Clayray, his choking is also causing him to spend more hours on the court.
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But in the end, just like his match against Clayray, his choking is also causing him to spend more hours on the court.
Murray played extremely well in those sets he won, no choke there. Really should've won that 4-0 tiebreak, but such things happen in tennis, no big deal.
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Murray played extremely well in those sets he won, no choke there. Really should've won that 4-0 tiebreak, but such things happen in tennis, no big deal.
Yes is happens indeed. However what was wrong in both cases is unreasonable, unfair and biased scheduling against Novak that forced him to play matches over two instead one day and caused him to be exhausted and have less than average performance in the next match (at least on RG, hopefully will not be a deciding factor today).

Something other players do not have to deal with. They could lose 4-0 TB and still finish the match the same day.
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FO final 2015 was no suprise. After given no rest Djokovic was slowly going to fade away.
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Yes is happens indeed. However what was wrong in both cases is unreasonable, unfair and biased scheduling against Novak that forced him to play matches over two instead one day and caused him to be exhausted and have less than average performance in the next match (at least on RG, hopefully will not be a deciding factor today).

Something other players do not have to deal with. They could lose 4-0 TB and still finish the match the same day.
I don't think those 40-something minutes should hurt him, he would've trained on that day regardless. And unlike the Murray match this one wasn't so physical, loads of aces and much shorter rallies. Novak should be fine.
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Tottaly agreed TimeViolation ...nole lost because he was the second best player that day ...and anyway stan had a crap schedule himself last wimbledon
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I don't think those 40-something minutes should hurt him, he would've trained on that day regardless. And unlike the Murray match this one wasn't so physical, loads of aces and much shorter rallies. Novak should be fine.
Time Violation you forgot the preparation for the so called "preparation". Don't forget about travel and mental rest.
40min? They suspended play at 3-3. They have played 16 games and a TB, you really think thats 40min between these rally beasts?
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Time Violation you forgot the preparation for the so called "preparation". Don't forget about travel and mental rest.
40min? They suspended play at 3-3. They have played 16 games and a TB, you really think thats 40min between these rally beasts?
I was talking about yesterday's fifth set, 44 minutes. About the mental rest, if anything it might benefit Novak, he looked way too casual in the first two sets or so.
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Lol terrible scheduling?!
Someone had to play last and it happened to be Novak. But it could have happened to anyone, like wawrinka last year.
Anyway the point is that, its Novak's fault that he couldnt do what anybody expected him to do aka win in 3 sets. Not only he didnt win in 3 but he lost 2 tbs to Kanderson of all people. So the fault relies only on Djokovic's shoulders end/
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His huge choking might also cost him this year's Wimby title. He could have won easily Kanderson in 3, instead he choke two tie breaks, one by DF at 6-6 the other by losing a 4-0 lead against Kanderson (?).
Had to play 5 sets in two days and his fans will call it external factors and yada yada (or is it yoda yoda?).
But in the end, just like his match against Clayray, his choking is also causing him to spend more hours on the court.
It's not choking, Djokovic just gets bored after tasting opponent's game and realising that nobody can't harm him.
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