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Old 08-04-2008, 03:49 PM   #76
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He's worked his way up to #66.
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Today in l'Equipe we can remember that the now ranked 95 # is one of the nine french players who reached top 10
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:12 AM   #78
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Today in l'Equipe we can remember that the now ranked 95 # is one of the nine french players who reached top 10
what an exclusive club - welcome gilles simon.

a country with so much depth of talent, yet can count top 10 players (and no number 1) in two hands for more than 30 years
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:09 PM   #79
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Now ten french guy reached the Top 10

At the end of his season Arnaud is #95 in single but it remains few challengers before securing a spot in AO and he's #29 in doubles.
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Rankings gone up Great!
Thanks for the news.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:29 PM   #81
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He's 97# and it remains only two weeks of competition. AO is near I watched his ranking breakdown on ATP site and until May 2009 he gets only 30 points to defend well 60 in fact after the doubling of points at the end of the year.
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Yes.
And, as he joked on the court in Bercy after his double " Je commence à vraiment bien jouer, ça y est, ma saison est lancée ! " (in november)
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:30 PM   #83
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he'd better come to aus to play qualies! lol

and play better than he has lately too. has he 'commence à vraiment bien jouer'? when
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When ? He meant only during this match (quarter I think) with micka.... he was just making fun about himself, don't worry Via. lol
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If he can avoid AO qualies it would be great because play qualies for every tournaments must be laborious. I watched the calendar for the beginning of 2009 and I did a schedule for him

1 Qualies for Brisbane
2 Qualies For Sydney
3/4 Australian Open
5 Rest
6 St-Etienne Challenger
7 Qualies for Marseille
8 Besançon Challenger
9 Fly to USA for the two MS

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...engers2009.pdf

But if he wants some changes he can go to Chennai for beginning of course lol I don't know if he can really improve his ranking because with the new ATP points it will be a big mess next year but until may no big pression on him
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He's 97# and it remains only two weeks of competition. AO is near I watched his ranking breakdown on ATP site and until May 2009 he gets only 30 points to defend well 60 in fact after the doubling of points at the end of the year.
He seems to be lucky enough this time to still be able to get directly into the main draw of the AO
And what's that about the doubling points? Is it also a part of the new system? Or you mean that since next year there is a rise in points, and e.g. 5 points of the first round turn into 10, we should consider 30 points as 60?
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If he can avoid AO qualies it would be great because play qualies for every tournaments must be laborious. I watched the calendar for the beginning of 2009 and I did a schedule for him

1 Qualies for Brisbane
2 Qualies For Sydney
3/4 Australian Open
5 Rest
6 St-Etienne Challenger
7 Qualies for Marseille
8 Besançon Challenger
9 Fly to USA for the two MS

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...engers2009.pdf

But if he wants some changes he can go to Chennai for beginning of course lol I don't know if he can really improve his ranking because with the new ATP points it will be a big mess next year but until may no big pression on him
Actually there is also a lovely Challenger in New Caledonia that week
Besides, I'd rather believe it's going to be Week 3: AO, Week 4/5: Rest
And then he still has high chances for Marseille WC, and Rotterdam qualies would probably be a better option than a Challenger considering again the new ranking points system.

Anyway it's a great idea to make such a schedule for Arnaud, it's going to be fun to see how different our and his actual schedules will be!
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And what's that about the doubling points? Is it also a part of the new system? Or you mean that since next year there is a rise in points, and e.g. 5 points of the first round turn into 10, we should consider 30 points as 60?
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Would it be possible for you to explain how the transition from the old to the new points system is going to work? Will all the points at the end of this season be calculated on the new format? Also, what points will be awarded for the different stages of each tournament. Would a Grand slam, for example, be 2000 for the winner, 1750 for the runner-up, 1500 for the semis etc. In other words, increments of 250.
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At the end of the 2008 season, the points a player has earned in his ranking will be doubled. Starting in 2009, the new ranking structure will be in place with new points structure and new ranking formula. Here is a tournament point breakdown for the different classifications from the quarterfinals-on:
Grand Slam: 2000 (Winner), 1200 (Runner-up), 720 (SF), 360 (QF)
Masters 1000: 1000 (Winner), 600 (Runner-up) 360 (SF), 180 (QF)
ATP 500: 500 (Winner), 300 (Runner-up), 180 (SF), 90 (QF)
ATP 250: 250 (Winner), 150 (Runner-up), 90 (SF), 45 (QF)
http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/2008news/sharkbites10.asp

I understood that they will have their points doubled but I don't know how many points is done for a first round in AO.

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Besides, I'd rather believe it's going to be Week 3: AO, Week 4/5: Rest
And then he still has high chances for Marseille WC, and Rotterdam qualies would probably be a better option than a Challenger considering again the new ranking points system.
The week 4 in Australia is for tourisme ; St Etienne & Besançon are 125000$ Challenger with now 100 points for the winner so if you win it it can be good but you have to win lol.

New Caledonia is a very good idea. An happy new year there should be great.
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These tennismen are sooo lucky at this period of the year, only dream destinations, like new caledonia, australia: sea sand sun, and some tennis...

Bon, dans ce tableau idyllique, saint etienne et besançon ça casse tout !
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I understood that they will have their points doubled but I don't know how many points is done for a first round in AO.


The week 4 in Australia is for tourisme ; St Etienne & Besançon are 125000$ Challenger with now 100 points for the winner so if you win it it can be good but you have to win lol.

New Caledonia is a very good idea. An happy new year there should be great.
the points system will be complicated next year. i don't think it's so straightforward as to saying that 'he has 60 points to defend', because while the points to drop off will be 60 (by the end of april), the points that he can earn by reaching the same stages in the same tournaments will likely be less than 60. i have seen a calculation for the percentage changes in the new ranking points, and they are not proportional... especially for the earlier rounds, they don't get doubled, far from it.

at least his best performances in 2008 did not come early in the year, otherwise he'd indeed struggle most of next year to earn points.

in the general forum posters have long been complaining that the new system disadvantages those lower ranked players

(a post with the points table compared http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...3&postcount=32 - click link on top right for the entire thread, and you'll find the link for the original article on another website)

btw i remember one year arnaud and other frenchmen did go to new caledonia! they had a great time, i think.

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the points system will be complicated next year. i don't think it's so straightforward as to saying that 'he has 60 points to defend', because while the points to drop off will be 60 (by the end of april), the points that he can earn by reaching the same stages in the same tournaments will likely be less than 60. i have seen a calculation for the percentage changes in the new ranking points, and they are not proportional... especially for the earlier rounds, they don't get doubled, far from it.
You're right I'm a little bit schematic It will be tough to improve his ranking and the qualies of 250 & 500 will have high level I suppose but he has 6 month to do a performance
I scheduled some challengers because it can be good for confidence if you don't play good, but if you have a smart start Rotterdam's qualies are a better choice of course.
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