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Old 07-19-2006, 03:01 AM   #76
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Pretty sure NYC was kidding around...
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Old 07-19-2006, 03:02 AM   #77
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All I have to say is "dam you're stoopid grammar thread".

Its the most childish thing I have ever seen and I have seen a lot of childish thing's on these board's. Our you actually going to sit their and correct every grammar mistake including comma splices, that is'nt cool.

You have to except that people will make mistake's, accept of coarse certain grammar gods. There people who didn't get learnt very good out their so its not they're fault they dont speak or write good.

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'heart' is STILL not a verb...
...why not? If "head", "eye", "nose", "gum", "tongue", "throat", "neck", "shoulder", "elbow", "finger", "knuckle", "thumb", "arm", "stomach", "leg", "knee", "foot", "heel", and "toe" are all acceptable verbs, and there is to my knowledge no existing denominal verb for "heart" with the particular meaning I take it that you have objection to, why should we fight zero derivation here?
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Old 07-19-2006, 03:17 AM   #81
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And I wasn't?
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Since we're in a grammar thread...

...why not? If "head", "eye", "nose", "gum", "tongue", "throat", "neck", "shoulder", "elbow", "finger", "knuckle", "thumb", "arm", "stomach", "leg", "knee", "foot", "heel", and "toe" are all acceptable verbs, and there is to my knowledge no existing denominal verb for "heart" with the particular meaning I take it that you have objection to, why should we fight zero derivation here?
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Coming to an MTF thread near you...
I prefer to translate it "Grey-Eyed", but as you wish.

Hey, I'm a prescriptivist with the best of them, but I think it's silly to resist sensible--emphasis: sensible--expansions of the language.
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Wait, I have one! Shield your eyes and gird your loins!

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hei girlz long tym no post....i watchd feli's match i thot he was gona lose easily but he really made ljubo beat him...its a shame dat he lost he was rili aggresive and most of d crowd were on his side....

since he reachd d 1/4 last year dis wud mean dat he wud lose points ryt??

welz ders olweiz next yir....he was rili unlucky to draw ivan on d 1st round
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omg... translation please??? sorry

if I understood you right.... yeah he will drop quite a bit....... to 60-70 or something....
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Maybe it is time to expand the language to include the IM and text messaging
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Maybe it is time to expand the language to include the IM and text messaging
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No.
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LOL! What's interesting about IM-speak is that some of it makes sense i.e. shortening 'you' to 'u' to save time, but at other times, it is just plain counter-productive.

For example:

"welz ders olweiz next yir"

That probably took longer to type out compared with, "well, there's always next year," because your brain has to switch into IM-speak mode to type that out, translating as you go. Then again, maybe the person only writes this way and no translation is needed.
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LOL! What's interesting about IM-speak is that some of it makes sense i.e. shortening 'you' to 'u' to save time, but at other times, it is just plain counter-productive.

For example:

"welz ders olweiz next yir"

That probably took longer to type out compared with, "well, there's always next year," because your brain has to switch into IM-speak mode to type that out, translating as you go. Then again, maybe the person only writes this way and no translation is needed.
Perhaps more to the point, translation is needed for most people to *understand* it; hence it impedes communication. I am opposed to a drastic orthographic reform of the English language, even though it means spelling and pronunciation have little in common--and I would be deeply surprised if that poster actually has a stop for "th"--because that way only one orthographical system has to be taught. Yes, it's a counterintuitive one and involves an increasing amount of memorization, but as long as there are some principles, most of that can take place in grade school, and it makes a larger body of literature accessible with less study.

Pronunciation changes so fast that an orthographical standard will act as a sort of lingua franca across the ages, even assuming mass media acts to level out the pronunciation of each generation to a large extent. It's also the case that the standardization of spelling *before* the Great Vowel Shift, a pure accident of history, makes it easier today to recognize cognates in the other Germanic languages. You can't stop changes in pronunciation, but you can freeze spelling and you should. Change the spelling with pronunciation and you'll only be able to read easily what was written by people who pronounced the words similarly.

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