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1982 Connors (7 titles including Wimbledon + US Open, and 4 runners-up) 13 68.42%
1982 Lendl (15 titles including Masters + many WCT, and 5 runners-up including US Open) 6 31.58%
J. McEnroe (5 titles, and 5 runners-up including Wimbledon) 0 0%
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:39 AM   #1
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1982 Connors

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7 singles titles : Monterrey, L.A., Las Vegas, Queens, Wimbledon, Columbus, US Open

4 singles runners-up : Philadelphia, Rotterdam, Milan, San Francisco

Roland Garros : QF
Wimbledon : W
US Open : W
Australian Open : DNP
Masters : SF

Titles / Runners-up : 7 / 4
Win-Loss : 78-11 (DEF in SF of Montreal / Toronto, US Open was counted as loss, according H2H record in ATP)
Year-End Ranking : 2



1982 Lendl

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15 singles titles : Delray Beach WCT, Genoa WCT, Munich WCT, Strasbourg WCT, Frankfurt, Houston, Dallas WCT, Forest Hills WCT, Washington, North Conway, Cincinnati, L.A. WCT, Naples WCT, Hartford WCT, Masters

5 singles runners-up : La Quinta, Monte Carlo, Madrid, Montreal / Toronto, US Open


Roland Garros : R16
Wimbledon : DNP
US Open : F
Australian Open : DNP
Masters : W

Titles / Runners-up : 12 / 5
Win-Loss : 106-9
Year-End Ranking : 3




1982 J. McEnroe

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5 singles titles : Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney Indoor, Tokyo Indoor, Wembley

5 singles runners-up : Dallas WCT, Memphis, London / Queen's Club, Wimbledon, Masters


Roland Garros : DNP
Wimbledon : F
US Open : SF
Australian Open : DNP
Masters : F

Titles / Runners-up : 5 / 5
Win-Loss : 71-9
Year-End Ranking : 1 (Official Tennis King of 1982)



Why I open this vote?

In case of 1977 Vilas vs 1997 Connors, some people says that Connors' ranking above Vilas because Wimbledon, US Open, Masters and WCTs were higher weighting than other tournaments. As the same principles, either Connors or Lendl should take NO.1 from J. McEnroe in 1982.
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: 1982 Connors vs 1982 Lendl vs 1982 J. McEnroe, who should be year-end NO.1?

Connors. Got the big double. Neither Lendl or McEnroe won a GS, Connors beat Lendl in the US final and Mac in the Wimbledon final.

In addition, Lendl owned Mac that year and Connors beat Lendl when it counted.

Most people regarded Connors as the no.1 that year anyway.
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Default Re: 1982 Connors vs 1982 Lendl vs 1982 J. McEnroe, who should be year-end NO.1?

In my opinion, Connors earned the #1 ranking for the following reasons:

- He captured Wimbledon and US Open titles (Lendl and McEnroe each won no Slams in '82)
- He was 18-1 in Grand Slam event matches (vs. 11-2 for McEnroe and 9-2 for Lendl)
- He was #1 in the Grand Prix point standings (Vilas was 2nd, Lendl 3rd and McEnroe 4th)
- He won 7 Grand Prix titles (Lendl won 4 + the Masters, McEnroe won 5)
- The ITF Panel chose Connors as #1
- Lance Tingay in World of Tennis: "That double success (US and Wimbledon) in 1982 made him the player of the year par excellence"
- John Parsons in World of Tennis: "Although he did not finish the year on top of the of the ATP computer rankings, Connors was #1 on all the recognized human lists"

Lendl deserves respect for his record, especially on the WCT tour. He won all 10 WCT events he played, winning all 45 matches. (McEnroe was 8-2 on the WCT tour winning 0 events, and Connors did not play WCT in 1982). However his overall ranking is impacted by losses at the French and US Opens and his failure to appear at Wimbledon.

McEnroe won four significant fall events (San Francisco, Sydney, Tokyo and Wembley), and also was 8-0 in Davis Cup singles. He also finished #1 on the ATP Computer and the WCT Nixdorf Computer rankings. However, he was rated #3 by both Tingay and Collins (each of whom rated Connors 1st and Lendl 2nd)
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Default Re: 1982 Connors vs 1982 Lendl vs 1982 J. McEnroe, who should be year-end NO.1?

Its gotta be Connors. 7 titles and 2 of them are Grand Slams. Lendl, whom I loved, may have won 15 titles that year but he didn't win a single Slam. The Slam titles win out.
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Default Re: 1982 Connors vs 1982 Lendl vs 1982 J. McEnroe, who should be year-end NO.1?

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In my opinion, Connors earned the #1 ranking for the following reasons:

- He captured Wimbledon and US Open titles (Lendl and McEnroe each won no Slams in '82)
- He was 18-1 in Grand Slam event matches (vs. 11-2 for McEnroe and 9-2 for Lendl)
- He was #1 in the Grand Prix point standings (Vilas was 2nd, Lendl 3rd and McEnroe 4th)
- He won 7 Grand Prix titles (Lendl won 4 + the Masters, McEnroe won 5)
- The ITF Panel chose Connors as #1
- Lance Tingay in World of Tennis: "That double success (US and Wimbledon) in 1982 made him the player of the year par excellence"
- John Parsons in World of Tennis: "Although he did not finish the year on top of the of the ATP computer rankings, Connors was #1 on all the recognized human lists"

Lendl deserves respect for his record, especially on the WCT tour. He won all 10 WCT events he played, winning all 45 matches. (McEnroe was 8-2 on the WCT tour winning 0 events, and Connors did not play WCT in 1982). However his overall ranking is impacted by losses at the French and US Opens and his failure to appear at Wimbledon.

McEnroe won four significant fall events (San Francisco, Sydney, Tokyo and Wembley), and also was 8-0 in Davis Cup singles. He also finished #1 on the ATP Computer and the WCT Nixdorf Computer rankings. However, he was rated #3 by both Tingay and Collins (each of whom rated Connors 1st and Lendl 2nd)
As your principle, Vilas should supress Connors for NO.1 in 1977
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It had to be Lendl !!
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