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Old 04-29-2006, 08:49 PM   #1
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When America’s Fab Four eventually came to rule the roost, there was plenty of ‘tude and (unlike the Swedes or Spaniards) virtually no camaraderie. These guys were not buddies. Andre Agassi and Jim Courier fought for the loyalty of their common coach, Nick Bollettieri, and early on, there relationship was nasty. When Agassi said Courier didn’t have much talent, Jim simmered and then shot back. But eventually Agassi watched supportively from the Friends Box as Courier made his final Wimbledon run.

Agassi, at times, was cruelly dismissive of the not particularly hip Micheal Chang and was clearly annoyed with the bundle of titles that Sampras denied him. Plus, when Sampras first became No. 1, Agassi offered a demeaning quip, implying that Pete was an ape. But by the end, the syrupy language flowed as the two spoke of their deep mutual respect. And while Sampras, Agassi, Courier and Chang were, en masse, spectacular Davis Cup underachievers, at least they didn’t suffer any embarrassing meltdowns, like Connors and Mac, when they tried to team up.

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Old 04-29-2006, 10:00 PM   #2
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I like that Fab4

if anything they were not friends at least not early on
they were rivals, the worst in the sense they were countryman
in a sense Davis Cup got them together
its true they werent like the spainards, swedish or french

probably more to do with culture difference
a great era for them
cannt see anyone step up now
rodddick has a single GS to his name, Blake a late boomer (like Tod Martin)
& the other americans simply make up the numbers
any up & coming american player
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:36 PM   #3
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I like that Fab4

if anything they were not friends at least not early on
they were rivals, the worst in the sense they were countryman
in a sense Davis Cup got them together
its true they werent like the spainards, swedish or french

probably more to do with culture difference
a great era for them
cannt see anyone step up now
rodddick has a single GS to his name, Blake a late boomer (like Tod Martin)
& the other americans simply make up the numbers
any up & coming american player

Dont see anyone filling their shoes in the near future, unless it will Pete & Andre sons.
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Old 05-07-2006, 01:14 AM   #4
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there is a dearth(sp) of talent in the usa
donald young is getting so much attention
thou i have heard from people there that he is not that great but rather the best out of an average us youth players
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They were a remarkable bunch!

I always felt like Todd Martin could have joined that group, if he were fortunate in one of his two Grand Slam finals. But of course, he had to face the two most talented members, Agassi and Sampras, in those matches.
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Well Young joined the mens tour at 16, thats still pretty good, they are hard on him cos he hasnt won a match yet but for goodness sake, hes 16, he hasnt even fully grown into his body yet and the game is very physical today, its too tough, and theres alotta pressure.
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there is a dearth(sp) of talent in the usa
donald young is getting so much attention
thou i have heard from people there that he is not that great but rather the best out of an average us youth players

I am not so sure about Young at all.
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Ive never seen him so no coment, but its true they do look better when the competition is average AHEM *cough cough* Almouchie can u think of any recent example hehehe lol
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Ive never seen him so no coment, but its true they do look better when the competition is average AHEM *cough cough* Almouchie can u think of any recent example hehehe lol

You never seen who? Donald Young? - America needs some really good players right now, the bunch that is there now can't cut it at all.
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You never seen who? Donald Young? - America needs some really good players right now, the bunch that is there now can't cut it at all.
He hasn`t won a single match in the ATP tour yet...
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He hasn`t won a single match in the ATP tour yet...

No and that is too bad for him.
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But hes 16... shouldnt we cut him some slack?? and lets not forget, The fab Four were an anomoly, 17 years old and u win the french open!? What the heck is that, Youngest Grandslam Champ in history, then the Youngest USO champ in History who went on to be the greatest ever duh, and Andre had 10 Titles as a teen, I think hes just behind Nadal and borg. Your not likely gonna get players like these guys again, Theres HUGE pressure on him, I mean the failure of roddick has already put them to look to Young to be the next great american hope, THATS HUGE when roddick is only 24, So Young hasnt had enough time outta the light to grow. Plus we dont know who the players were that he drew and the surface etc. Plus if hes grown physically enough to hold up against any of em. So many intangibles.
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But hes 16... shouldnt we cut him some slack?? and lets not forget, The fab Four were an anomoly, 17 years old and u win the french open!? What the heck is that, Youngest Grandslam Champ in history, then the Youngest USO champ in History who went on to be the greatest ever duh, and Andre had 10 Titles as a teen, I think hes just behind Nadal and borg. Your not likely gonna get players like these guys again, Theres HUGE pressure on him, I mean the failure of roddick has already put them to look to Young to be the next great american hope, THATS HUGE when roddick is only 24, So Young hasnt had enough time outta the light to grow. Plus we dont know who the players were that he drew and the surface etc. Plus if hes grown physically enough to hold up against any of em. So many intangibles.


Hi there natural, how are you my freind, see Nadal won again, how do you like that - I am smiling, wonder what Mr. Federer and his fans are saying now? - The french open dont look so certain now?

As for Young, I only hope you are right, but he has a very long way to go.
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I dont know that he will become a great player, Maybe he is the next American Tim Henman. I wasnt arguing that he WILL be great because regardless of all the reasons I gave, a great, even as a kid, will come through, Hewitt beat Agassi at 16 (ok He is actually special because hes got that spirit to win like Petey, regardless of his lack of other tennis talents). But Yeh Donald should have made a dent on the Challenger circuit or something if he is to be considered even to the level of Chang, Winning a set or two at least, but i doubt hes going to be great. He will need a true work ethic to achieve that, see now it looks like im back pedaling in my comments lol. I forgot that the initial argument was "IS HE GREAT", and I was arguing to protect the fact that he hadnt won a match at all. OK heres my opinion, at that age its not so bad not winning against adults, but if hes tooted as the next great from America, I think he shoulda done something at least, but I know NOTHING about him so i cant comment. If i see him hit a ball and I see how big he is etc, I can comment lol.

ALL I KNOW IS, THE FUTURE OF MENS TENNIS IS COMING FROM AUSTRALIA!!!! Remeber Bernard Tomic, he's an anomaly he won 2 or 3 tournaments in the 18 year old division, that probably has alot to do with the lack of any truely good aussie kids, but still an achievement at 5"5 or wateva, and he loses only in extremley close matches. I think most importantly hes got a huge competitive fire, and is highly ambitious to become the best ever (good luck kid), I dont believe he will be but hes definatley the most forseeable future in mens tennis, and even tv commentators and aussie Legends are tooting him as a future great so its very likely.
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HI GUYS & girls

Fab 4
the originals
just the Dream Team of 1992 USA Basketball team
all others were sub cateory DT2, DT 3, etc
I havent seen Donald Young tbh,
But I read in many articles that Young is being touted as the next american hope & maybe even more than he actually has potential.
he is 16 not yet fully grown, neither is his game, but has management & endorsement deals that he doesnt seem to have earned yet.
He still needs to learn the game, but his entourage(agents) seem desperate of giving him access to ATP (WC) tournaments when he shold be still playing challengers & futures
just an opinion I have formed from reading a lot & talking to people who has seen him play
u might recall that he was & not Ginepri supposed to play Sampras at River Oakes.
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