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Old 04-21-2006, 06:03 PM   #151
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If Andy should win Queen's again this year then I would not doubt that Wimbledon would seed him No. 2 again.

I would so love that.
not only the quadruple title and triplicate defense of...

but it would be like Wimbledon trying to hand him,
his god Damn trophy already.

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Old 04-21-2006, 06:08 PM   #152
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Any hope for Andy?

I was gone in Cancun for a week and I missed the second dc singles matches and all of the Houston tourny.
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Any hope for Andy?
depends on who you ask. in my opinion, no evidence of there being much hope at this point.

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Old 04-21-2006, 06:16 PM   #154
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there is always hope that's why were here.
-even if it's insufficient hope.
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If Andy should win Queen's again this year then I would not doubt that Wimbledon would seed him No. 2 again.
I have hope for that. When I understand this formula correctly, it could become a close affair.

Last year the formula was:
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1. Take INDESIT ATP Entry Ranking points at Monday, June 13, 2005
2. Add 100% of points earned for all grass court tournaments in the previous 12 months
3. Add 75% of points earned at a player’s best grass court event in the 12 months before that
so currently it would be:
1. 2715
2. 700 (Wimbledon final) + 225 (Queen's) = 925
3. his best grass court event "in the 12 months before that" would be also his Wimbledon final?! 2004 then, right? Or what do they mean? I'm unsure about this term actually So it would be 75% of 700 = 525
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2715 + 925 + 525 = 4165

Is that right how I translated the words into numbers?

Presumed Nadal is winning Monte Carlo again he will be around 4350 again (you hardly have to worry about the grass points that Nadal adds due to the formula). So Andy's #2 seed for Wimbledon is not yet totally out of reach. It depends on him if he is defending Queen's again and if he makes some more rounds in the clay tournaments he is playing and also heavily on Nadal; first let him win Monte Carlo, then has to defend another Masters and a Slam. Enough points on stake if you look at it this way.
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even if Andy is seeded 3rd if he's drawn into Nadal's 1/2 we shouldn't worry about him not making the finals... except if he draws Murray, Bonito, Andreev, Froggy or Tommy in the earlier rounds
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Neely thanks for doing all the points (and yes I think you did indeed do it correctly adding the 2004 Wimby final)... I know it's possible for Andy to still get the #2 seed - it would help him if Rafa doesn't defend all of his clay points, but some of it is largely in Andy's hands - he actually has some points from Rome to defend... he has all his queens points, etc. It may be possible, but it's going to be hard, and he has to decide he really wants to do it.
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depends on who you ask. in my opinion, no evidence of there being much hope at this point.

Hope you had fun on your trip
insanely good time, I was thinking of updating my thread with some pics...lol...

and I cut my hair...but after the trip...so you can hold your scolding when you see the pics cuz it's short and spikey now....
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mmmmmm short and spiky!
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Default Re: Fun in the boring mud! (the Clay Season thread)

I think quite a few players who usually don't play Queens have signed up this year, Nadal included. I think Ljubo too. It will be tough for Andy. I have the impression that the grass courts at Queens are faster than Wimbledon. Does anyone else have this impression?
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yeah bloss, I've heard that too.
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I don't even know if faster courts help Andy nowadays. It probably makes his serve more efficient. Well fingers crossed.

I think his performance at Queens will be the key factor in order for Andy to do well at Wimbledon. He needs that confidence boost.
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I agree, and I do think that the faster courts would help him even more. Weather also plays a factor - on clay and grass - warm dry weather is much better for him.
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So Nadal beat Fed...
and the odds of Wimby No.2 seed are slowly dwindling...
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found this on WTAworld
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-- Elena Dementieva, defending her weak serve. Ouch, like A-Rod doesn't have enough problems without getting slammed by WTA players.
that was in the stupid tennis quotes thread but it actually sounded very witty to me
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