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Old 03-20-2006, 08:46 PM   #16
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I remember someone said this: "The problem with Roger is that, he doesn't really have any problems."

There simply isn't much to write about him. He goes and does his thing, and he does it very well, and he keeps his life very simple. When you don't have much to be writen about, then you don't really get much exposure. But do I mind? Not really, if this helps his career, then who cares.
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The average person who watches sportcenter, around the horn etc. regularly will at least have heard of him, on the rare occasion when he is mentioned (usually after a slam result). I doubt the everyday man is familiar with his game or accomplishments, except that he's at the top of the sport.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:30 PM   #18
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actually people here know about federer. They just dont care too much about tennis i think because the media never cares to show it to them on a consistent basis.

If roger maybe appeared on more shows on ESPN, i think he would def get more recognition. He is starting to realize this and is appearing more frequently in the media.
What cracks me up is when Roger's being interviewed on ESPN and they ask him why he's not more well known in the USA.
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Old 03-20-2006, 10:37 PM   #19
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What cracks me up is when Roger's being interviewed on ESPN and they ask him why he's not more well known in the USA.
dies...thats just too much



that has to be in the thread "Stupid questions by journos" or whatever.
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:47 AM   #20
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Everybody I know who is into tennis Adores him. However, Am. male sportswriters are macho worshippers so they wet themselves writing up Thugs & have a very difficult time w/Roger. These aren't guys who go to the theater & art museums, they're beer drinkers, rather than wine drinkers, as it were. The editor of the major tennis mag (tennis.com) for christ sakes calls Roger - In Print - Mr. Sickeningly Perfect. In short, he's exactly what they run to sports to avoid - plus they can't feel superior to him!!

On the other hand, I know a retired Professor of Nursing, w/zero connection to tennis or interest in sports of any kind & utter loathing for celebrity culture, who put him on after hearing me rave - and she's mesmerized watching him. So, I would position interviews etc. not for the average dumb schmuck who's into male corporate jock culture, but to professionals, the educated, art lovers, piano players - look at his delicate tapered fingers.... He's a New Breed of Cat for the Male Jockocracy to relate to - firstly 'cuz women relate to him more intensely than men do & they don't know what to do w/that 'cuz in America sports is where males go when they want to be free of women.
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I can only speculate just how big he'd be here if he was British - I think as I said elsewhere, he'd be Sir Roger by now Switzerland should be extremely proud of him - not just an all time legend of tennis but a great ambassador for their country.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:26 AM   #22
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I can only speculate just how big he'd be here if he was British - I think as I said elsewhere, he'd be Sir Roger by now Switzerland should be extremely proud of him - not just an all time legend of tennis but a great ambassador for their country.
Unfortunately in Switzerland, people like the CEOs of UBS or Credit Suisse seem to be more well-known and respected for their achievements than the few great sportsmen we have...
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oh GOD
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Now Andy Murray is completely unknown in America. Most (non-obsessed) tennis fans here would not be able to pick him out of lineup of himself, Tony Blair, and the queen.
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Being famous in Britain does nothing for you here.
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Old 03-23-2006, 12:29 AM   #26
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Safe to say ROGER is HUGE DOWN UNDER*!*.Hope the females don`t get too excited...

Seriously though Federer is Swiss he`s probably the most popular non-Aussie sportsperson in Australia. Of course it helps that tennis is a very popular sport in AUS. Plus the fact that Federer always does well when he comes to our Southern Shores. 2-AO`s, 1-Sydney outdoor, 1-Hopman Cup [with Martina], 1-Kooyong Classic & memorable Davis Cup clashes...Aussies won`t forget the Roger vs Lleyton SF in 2003! If Federer weren`t such a nice guy then he could have been enemy No.1^ consider he beat Philippoussis in the 03 Wimby Final & he`s beaten Hewitt 5-times in Grand Slam meetings, including the 04 USO Final. As it is Aussies respect great play from great people & Roger`s proven himself to be the best at his trade whilst being a very modest & down to earth character,^Aussies respect that even more!
*If there was any doubt about Fed`s popularity in AUS then you should have seen the spectators faces when Roger made his emotional speech after receiving the trophy from Rod Laver at the AO final this year. Despite the macho Aussie sports image we actually prefer the sensitive ones!

#Maybe 3-4 years ago Tiger Woods would have been the most popular non-Aussie sportsman Down Under, but as it is today I`m sure if you took a pole then Federer would be clearly No.1 non-Aussie in terms of popularity, fame & respect...
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Here's Exhibit A for my point above that most Am. Sportswriters cannot appreciate Roger. It's from the major local paper in Miami:

Men to Watch - Miami Herald

Don't miss this shirt: Dominik Hrbaty of Slovakia takes ribbing for his peek-a-boo pink and black shirt, but he plans to wear it again. The shirt features two giant holes in the back, sort of like air-conditioning for his shoulder blades, which might not be a bad idea in the Miami humidity.

• The entertainers: Win or lose, these players are worth the price of admission -- Marcos Baghdatis, Guillermo Coria, Rafael Nadal, Andre Agassi and Paradorn Srichaphan.

• Throwbacks (aka serve-and-volleyers): Jonas Bjorkman, Taylor Dent and Tim Henman.

• Serving big: Want to see aces? Look for Ivo Karlovic, Ivan Ljubicic, Mario Ancic and Roddick.

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Go for Thuggy's silly macho, but nothing to watch in Roger - or even Marat. Idiots.
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CmonAussie, what were their faces like? We had to stay up all night even to see the ceremony - it was Not rebroadcast on the daytime show when all sane people watched. Happily I have it on tape.

Doesn't the fact that he's virtually all Aussie coached, and now by Tony factor into Aussie's appreciation. I also think that Aussie's in general are far more tennis knowledgeable than Americans.

What's their view of Hewitt - not only the local, but the kid w/the Aussie macho stuff?
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CmonAussie, what were their faces like? We had to stay up all night even to see the ceremony - it was Not rebroadcast on the daytime show when all sane people watched. Happily I have it on tape.

Doesn't the fact that he's virtually all Aussie coached, and now by Tony factor into Aussie's appreciation. I also think that Aussie's in general are far more tennis knowledgeable than Americans.

What's their view of Hewitt - not only the local, but the kid w/the Aussie macho stuff?

Thanks TenHound .G`day Mate .

Yeah the Tony Roche factor definitely doesn`t hurt Federer`s popularity factor Down Under. Honestly I think Federer`s fan base has just built up gradually.1st He won the Hopman Cup in 2001 with Martina Hingis, even though it`s only an exibition I still reckon Roger took it seriously at the time,as it was the only time he`s been able to win a trophy for Switzerland [Davis Cup would be preferable of course ].Also I reckon he probably gained mentally from playing with Hingis, who was No.1 at the time despite the power revolution of the Williams sisters,Davenport,Mauresmo etc.

Ironically the thing that probably turned more people into Federer fans was his defeat in 5-sets to Hewitt in the Davis Cup Semi 2003. As it was Roger had to endure to heartbreaking losses in consecutive days [also lost a 5-setter in the doubles vs Woodbridge & Arthurs]. Then he was quite tearful after those consecutive 5-set defeats, yet he still made the trip to play outdoor in Melbourne in September[effectively our winter at that time] & put it all on the line & nearly single-handedly got Switzerland into the Davis Cup Final. Lucky for us Hewitt still had his warrior mentality back then & managed to sneak us a win .Many Federer analysts have said that Davis Cup semi defeat was a turning point for Roger^ & it proved to be as he has since beaten Hewitt 9-times straight,plus won nearly every pressurised match since. Also it was the last time I think Federer cried from losing a match ,naturally we`ve all seen him cry a few times since but for winning instead .

About Rocky Llegs Hewitt ! I`m not sure if I can give you an unbiased opinion . Anyway I think he`s much more respected than the media, either in Australia or America, would have people believe. Simply for the way Lleyton plays the game many people respect that fighting quality .Though sadly in recent months he`s playing tennis as if he doesn`t care about the result. Anyway, if you go to any local tennis club in Australia I`m sure you`ll find dozens of little kids battling away in rallies & doing the fist-pumps & lawn-mower motions a la Rocky Hewitt .For the little kids[ie.not tall in stature] Hewitt is still their HERO [I honestly believe that] .Of course if we were all as talented & gifted as Federer then it would be preferable to be able to hit so many winners, rather than grinding out every point.

PS. Aussies, especially Melbournian`s are sports mad, so if a World-class athlete makes the trip to AUS then they`ll usually get a warm reception. Unlike America, where many people assume they`re living in the most important nation- so top sportsmen should come & then be defeated by the locals. It`s hard to explain. Anyway Australia`s geographical isolation & small population make us appreciate things more, even if they`re not home-grown talents. Well that`s my opinion mate...
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