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Old 09-05-2006, 08:38 PM   #241
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I think it would be good to let the 2 best singles and doubles players play Daviscup. If they are the same, then we should fill in the 3rd, 4th best singles player.

I mean at the moment $@M is number 8 in the world doubles ranking, which is number 2 in Australia, but he's only number 5 in Australian singles.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:39 PM   #242
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I thing that ranking system don't should be change.

4 GS, TMC and best of 14 tournaments is perfect.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:56 PM   #243
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Another suggestion to TMC system:

A championship with the 8 players. All players predict all 15 matches and who have more correct picks win TMC. The negative point is no final and no man-to-man, the positive is much picks.

I think that this system will no call much support, but it's another to discussion.
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the many h2h battles between top players are the best part of the TMC imo...
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I think it would be good to let the 2 best singles and doubles players play Daviscup. If they are the same, then we should fill in the 3rd, 4th best singles player.

I mean at the moment $@M is number 8 in the world doubles ranking, which is number 2 in Australia, but he's only number 5 in Australian singles.
The way teams are determined for DC will be one of the points of discussion in the off season but that suggestion is allowed now - teams can have different players playing singles and doubles. However, remember that doubles in DC is tipping actual doubles matches which is different to doubles in the TT rankings, therefore $@M's ranking in doubles is still based on tipping singles matches not doubles matches.
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Another suggestion to TMC system:

A championship with the 8 players. All players predict all 15 matches and who have more correct picks win TMC. The negative point is no final and no man-to-man, the positive is much picks.

I think that this system will no call much support, but it's another to discussion.
I think this takes away the h2h element which is the unique feture of TT.
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:09 PM   #247
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the many h2h battles between top players are the best part of the TMC imo...
I agree, but I think that no one system will be perfect for TMC.

And h2h batlles with 2/3 matches to pick is no exciting. Probably many TBs and everyone knows that TT fans hate TBs, because is need luck to win.
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Old 09-06-2006, 05:17 PM   #248
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Labamba, when TT Board make a final decision about TMC system?
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Well, we could pick the doubles matches too.
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Old 09-06-2006, 06:00 PM   #250
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Labamba, when TT Board make a final decision about TMC system?
sometime after the TMC schedule has been released

doubles matches won't be included
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sometime after the TMC schedule has been released

doubles matches won't be included
TMC schedule?

TMC starts in 12, a Sunday. So, 2 singles matches per day in RR, SF in Saturday, Final in Sunday. No?
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TMC schedule?

TMC starts in 12, a Sunday. So, 2 singles matches per day in RR, SF in Saturday, Final in Sunday. No?
Yes, that's how they did it last year so presumably it'll be the same this year.
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TMC schedule?

TMC starts in 12, a Sunday. So, 2 singles matches per day in RR, SF in Saturday, Final in Sunday. No?
is it official yet? can you give a link?
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TMC Solutions.


With only 15 matches in the TMC and 5 matches to win gives us not alot of matches to tip per round. One good point Melvins has bought up is to give less importance to the tb's as this is more luck than not. Therefore I would side with 3 matches to tip in the TT TMC Final instead of just 1.

There are a number of ways to run TMC.

All together there will be 15 matches split into :-

12 matches in round robin with 2 per day from Sunday to Friday
2 matches in Semi Final on Saturday and
1 match in Final on Sunday.

1) TMC RR matches 1 & 2 = TT RR match 1
TMC RR matches 3 & 4 = TT RR match 2
TMC RR matches 5 to 8 = TT RR match 3
TMC RR matches 9 to 12 = TT SF
TMC SF & F = TT F

This way only 2 matches in first TT RR but 4 matches in last 2 TT RR. Does not make much difference as it will be the same for all TT players. Very high chance all TT RR 1 matches will be decided by tie-break.


2) TMC RR matches 1,2 & 3 = TT RR match 1
TMC RR matches 4,5 & 6 = TT RR match 2
TMC RR matches 7,8 & 9 = TT RR match 3
TMC RR matches 10,11 & 12 = TT SF
TMC SF & F = TT F

This way no TT RR match will be decided in any single day but this does not really matter as all TT players will be playing all the RR matches anyway. Evens out all RR matches to 3 matches to predict so less tiebreaks will be used of which there will still be quite a few.


3) TMC RR matches 1 to 4 = TT RR match 1
TMC RR matches 5 to 8 = TT RR match 2
TMC RR matches 9 to 12 = TT RR match 3
TMC SF & F = TT F

This way will get rid of any TT semi-final but all TT Round Robin matches will be over 4 TMC matches. Only the winner of each group goes straight to the TT Final. TT Final will be over 3 TMC matches.


4) TMC RR matches 1 to 4 = TT RR match 1
TMC RR matches 5 to 8 = TT RR match 2
TMC RR matches 9 to 12 = TT RR match 3
TMC SF = TT SF
TMC F = TT F

This way will leave only 1 match to decide the TT TMC Champion.


I will be running this event and these are the solutions I can think of right now. From the 4 solutions above I would side with No.2 the most. It's not for me to decide the format anyway. There is no right or wrong way so what I will do is to put forward the best solutions in a poll to the 8 singles and 16 doubles finalists a week prior to the TMC so whatever format is used will be decided by a majority of the participating TT'ers.

The 4 ways I have listed above are not necessarily the solutions I will put forward. The soultions I will put forward are those deemed workable by those participating in this thread. So it would be good to hear from other TT'ers any idea's they may have.
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I like the second solution, too.
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