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Old 07-15-2006, 10:11 AM   #196
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Should the TT qualifiers get the same extra ranking points as in ATP, even if they only have to win one match to qualify? This week in Gstaad the qualifiers would get 5 ranking points for qualifying. The lucky losers obviously won't get the extra ranking points.

I would say yes...
Yes, I suppose so - it makes it easier
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:14 AM   #197
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I would say yes.

I noticed that in doubles we use points like 15-40-75-120-175, although it should be 5-40-75-120-175. Is it okay to do it like that? It wouldn't change the rankings that much.
When I first started doing the doubles rankings I didn't know what the ATP rules were so I chose to do it using the 2nd round points for singles so that there wasn't such a big gap between losing in the first round and the next round.
I don't mind changing it to reflect ATP, but perhaps it would be best to keep it as it is for the rest of this year and change it from the start of 2007 rather than changing the ranking system half-way through the year
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:17 AM   #198
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When I first started doing the doubles rankings I didn't know what the ATP rules were so I chose to do it using the 2nd round points for singles so that there wasn't such a big gap between losing in the first round and the next round.
I don't mind changing it to reflect ATP, but perhaps it would be best to keep it as it is for the rest of this year and change it from the start of 2007 rather than changing the ranking system half-way through the year
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Old 07-15-2006, 12:56 PM   #199
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I also agree with Gav and AS.
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Old 07-15-2006, 01:14 PM   #200
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Old 07-25-2006, 05:08 PM   #201
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if first round countback score is the same and the TB from 2nd round is a retired winner match, the decider is TB1 score from first round or rank ???
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if first round countback score is the same and the TB from 2nd round is a retired winner match, the decider is TB1 score from first round or rank ???
TB1 from the 1st round, then TB2, then rank. Ranking should always be the last resort to determine the winner
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TB1 from the 1st round, then TB2, then rank. Ranking should always be the last resort to determine the winner
that was my thought
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I was out 4 days and big changes in TT

Sadly, I think that are bad changes. TMS and an IS with 128 players Now, it's too hard win a TMS or New Haven like a Grand Slam Did you think about this? Why we don't continue with Challengers? Why do we need ranking? It'll be fun you win ranking to enter in a better tournament like in real life...

I hope that in future this change will be change!
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:25 PM   #205
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I was out 4 days and big changes in TT

Sadly, I think that are bad changes. TMS and an IS with 128 players Now, it's too hard win a TMS or New Haven like a Grand Slam Did you this about this? Why we don't continue with Challengers? Why do we need ranking? It'll be fun you win ranking to enter in a better tournament like in real life...

I hope that in future this change will be change!
If you had followed the problem since the beginning, maybe you wouldn't have this opinion
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If you had followed the problem since the beginning, maybe you wouldn't have this opinion
What problem?!? The problem of the one tournament per week?!? Challengers, Challengers...
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What problem?!? The problem of the one tournament per week?!? Challengers, Challengers...
We almost lost top players/managers because of the old rules We needed two days and more than 20 pages of discussion in Managers thread to have TT peace back
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It's a good time to start the TT Masters Cup discussions. We have agreed on the entry system already, but we haven't talked about the playing system we're going to use for TT MC. Here's my suggestion to start things off,

I'm suggesting that we follow the real Masters Cup as closely as possible, because it's an exciting concept and something different from the rest of the tournaments (especially for TT). So, here's how my plan would have worked with last year's MC schedule and rules:

Top 8 singles players drawn into two groups of four (with current Top 8 of TT), where everybody will face each other once. The Top 2 from each group will advance to the semis (win-loss record will decide who advances, in case of a tie, the player with more correct picks during the group phase will advance...).

Code:
Red Group

01 A_Skywalker 
04 coreyschucky
06 JMG
08 Labamba

Gold Group

02 Aiken Drum
03 keqtqiadv
05 el güero
07 alansk

TT Schedule for MC

TT Round Robin 1 ~ MC Days 1 & 2 (four matches to predict)
TT Round Robin 2 ~ MC Days 3 & 4 (four matches to predict)
TT Round Robin 3 ~ MC Days 5 & 6 (four matches to predict)
TT SF ~ MC SF (two matches to predict)
TT Final ~ MC Final (one match to predict)
Ranking points would be awarded with the same system the ATP does, so every win would give points. The doubles would work with the same system as the singles.

Feel free to comment on this and make your own suggestions. Let's try to come up with the best possible concept for the TT Masters Cup 2006
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I think this is a good suggestion.
If it was played in one week, three matches per day, we could have SF+F for TT final.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:14 PM   #210
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An option that avoids a one-match final:
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Red Group

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08 Labamba

Gold Group

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05 el güero
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TT Schedule for MC

TT Round Robin 1 ~ MC Day 1 (two matches to predict)
TT Round Robin 2 ~ MC Day 2 (two matches to predict)
TT Round Robin 3 ~ MC Days 3 & 4 (four matches to predict)
TT SF ~ MC Days 5 & 6 (four matches to predict)
TT Final ~ MC SF+F (three match to predict)
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