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Old 02-08-2006, 04:40 AM   #31
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Even better news! Andy actually took my advice (that I had given to Adam, who was planning on coaching Andy ) to ADD to his team, not taketh awayeth. Excellent. So now Andy will get the best of two worlds: the calm Dean who issues quiet wisdom and the fiery John who can kick Andy in the pants.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:41 AM   #32
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All I have to say is wow. I just hope John can light the fire. It seems like he had something to do with the fire at Wimbledon, hopefully John can do something positive with Andy.
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I wonder whether this has to do with poor scouting related to Marcos. That would be consistent with Dean remaining as a consultant. I am just speculating of course, it could be the case that the scouting was good but Andy did not execute well.

When Andy switched coaches before, he had decided upon the next coach, getting Brad after Tarik and Dean after Brad. This looks like a family solution, so it will be interesting to see whether it is temporary or not. At least i hope Andy will get a big morale boost, he badly needs one at the moment.
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At least i hope Andy will get a big morale boost, he badly needs one at the moment.
Well, what we can hope is that he realized this, discussed it with Dean, and decided that his brother is the best person to do that. And, he probably is. I've said for a while that Andy doesn't need as much technical help with his game right now. Once he can get his head on straight and stuff, then he can go back to trying to improve his game. My best guess is that John knows the game enough to scout well and stuff like that.

The only thing is... John was in Australia, and that didn't seem to do much good lol.
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I'm not sure if this is helping Andy move forward in any way. Goldfine knows the game really well, but I think Roddick is too comfortable with him and will be as well with his brother. Someone like Brad took Roddick out of his comfort zone and challenged him.
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I'm not sure if this is helping Andy move forward in any way. Goldfine knows the game really well, but I think Roddick is too comfortable with him and will be as well with his brother. Someone like Brad took Roddick out of his comfort zone and challenged him.
possibly, but having john as his bro could be an advantage. john certainly wont be afraid of telling him the truth and that could be a good thing. but what happens if andy wants to fire him... that could get a little nasty...
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I'm not sure if this is helping Andy move forward in any way. Goldfine knows the game really well, but I think Roddick is too comfortable with him and will be as well with his brother. Someone like Brad took Roddick out of his comfort zone and challenged him.
perhaps, but I think Andy was a very different person and player when Brad came on board. He helped him reach that level that Tarik couldn't seem to help him get to, but it's different now. What he needs now is to have that spark, passion, fire, excitement, power, etc., back into his game. And I think his brother may be able to do that. Dean may have been a great motivator where it came to fitness and he may have helped him add some things to his game but he didn't seem to be helping him mentally. If John can do that, then it will be great.

Ellen I think what would happen is not that Andy would want to fire him but maybe he'd want to take Dean back full-time at some point, or hire someone else to travel with him at some point, etc.
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possibly, but having john as his bro could be an advantage. john certainly wont be afraid of telling him the truth and that could be a good thing. but what happens if andy wants to fire him... that could get a little nasty...

Very good points. How does one go about firing one's borther if it comes to that without looking bad? Perhaps make them a consultant?
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perhaps, but I think Andy was a very different person and player when Brad came on board. He helped him reach that level that Tarik couldn't seem to help him get to, but it's different now. What he needs now is to have that spark, passion, fire, excitement, power, etc., back into his game. And I think his brother may be able to do that. Dean may have been a great motivator where it came to fitness and he may have helped him add some things to his game but he didn't seem to be helping him mentally. If John can do that, then it will be great.
Hopefully something can be done about the backhand as well--we will see. In any case, Roddick winning only 1 slam in his career would be an incredible shame.
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My guess is that this is not the same as an official player-coach thing, most of them have contracts with set commissions and all that. This is probably just an informal thing of a brother traveling with his brother, and when Andy's ready to hire another coach to travel with him it'll probably be a mutual decision. Andy and his brother seem close enough that I doubt there would be problems. Andy obviously trusts John a lot and looks up to him and stuff, so I think if and when the time comes they'll be able to come together to make the decision.
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Hopefully something can be done about the backhand as well--we will see. In any case, Roddick winning only 1 slam in his career would be an incredible shame.
Hopefully, but as I've been saying for like a year or something, the backhand doesn't matter if he has no confidence to hit through it. Andy's shown that his BH can be sufficient when he's got confidence in it. I think about matches around March/April 2004 when he won Miami and the DC QF matches - his BH was down right good then, because he was playing confidently. Right now, he's just clearly not hitting through it. He'll never have great technique but if he can get himself to just smash through it instead of pussying it around and moonballing it half the time, it's good enough for now probably.

This is all evidenced pretty clearly by his forehand - which used to be one of the top few in the game and is now not much better than average - not because his technique has changed but b/c he doesn't go for it very often anymore
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Yes, the drop in the FH due to confidence or whatever else has been really surprising. In 2003 and in much of 2004, if a ball was hit short at all to the Fh side, Andy would take over the point. Now it's these loopy topspin things that don't do anything, but then again, I'm just an houtsider looking in.
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Andy's backhand has improved a lot over the past year, and imo, it's the least of his concerns right now, and it's hardly his weakest spot that needs immediate improvement anyway (as opposed to his ros, which needs to be worked on asap).
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Was this article ever posted around here?

http://www.tennisreporters.net/sub_roddick_011106.html
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