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Old 02-09-2006, 04:52 AM   #136
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Sure but make it quick as I'm going to bed very soon
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Sure but make it quick as I'm going to bed very soon
Thanks, but don't worry about it.

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Old 02-09-2006, 04:58 AM   #139
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oh shush you know what I meant

You sure ellen? I'll be here another 10 min or so. or you can just post it and someone else can resize too if I've already gone to bed

We will have fun and think of all of you Somehow we'll get in touch and let you know what's going on I don't think there's wifi at the hotel but i'll have my laptop with me justincase
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all I can say is wow. and I hope this doesn't turn out horribly wrong.
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...I did not realize John was only 29, for some reason I thought he was a bit older than that. not that it matters, I'm just saying
You know, I'd forgotten about that last night. John Roddick was in the same juniors peer group as Jan-Mike, Justin, Goldstein, and Humphries. It was actually John who suggested Andy and Jan-Mike play doubles together a few years ago. I just checked his junior record at ITF and John played a lot of doubles with Justin before they headed off their separate ways to college. I am beginning to feel more optimistic about this than I was last night.
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all I can say is wow. and I hope this doesn't turn out horribly wrong.
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Just got the word this evening...it's official...Andy Roddick has dismissed Dean Goldfine as his coach effective immediately. Andy's brother John Roddick will assume the coaching duties full time!!!

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Thanks for the info Sagroove. This is a good move. John was a real hard ass, hard working, no nonsense type of guy. He really wanted to be a great player, unlike his younger brother where there is some question. John will have no qualms telling Andy he is full of crap when he is full of crap and what he needs to do to improve.

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Stich and Rafter will make excellent coaches. Both were intelligent players while on tour. If Andy has need for another coach sometime in the future, he should take one of these two up on the offer they made.
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This is probably for the best. I just don't think having his brother coach him is going to improve all that much. I wish he would get someone like Rafter or Stich, someone who can bring some pazzaz, or mojo along with them.
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I kind of thought the same, his brother might not impose much authority as an outsider would and it could not make a lot of difference. It's actually easier to pick a fight or an argument with your brother than anyone else. Nevertheless, I'm a fan and hopefully it works out for the best. Nadal is also coached by a family member and it works just fine for him.

Now the Andy and Rafter combo is just like a dream, Pat would be stealing all Andy's female fans! Andy would be jealous!
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:46 PM   #148
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From the few interviews I've read where John and Andy were both present, I got the impression that Andy pretty much worships John and that John is one of the few people in this world who could probably control Andy better and get him to listen. Sure, Andy could probably pick a fight with John easier but John could shove it right back at him and he wouldn't be afraid of Andy's wrath in the first place (unlike his other coaches). This is just my own interpretation.
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Well I hope John brings to andy what David Pierce brought to Mary last year (just that Andy would need to win a slam and not suck of ass in the finals ). I agree with your post tangy. John can easily take the bullshit andy might throw and him and give him hell. there's the brother bond there so John won't be afraid to let it rip if he has to and I think he CAN change Andy's mentality when he goes into a match.
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:16 PM   #150
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I've been waiting for Peter's comments and here they are:

http://www.tennis.com/Tennis_World_B...p?ENTRY_ID=787

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By now, most of you may know that Andy Roddick has ever-so-gently fired Dean Goldfine and brought his brother John on board as coach, effective immediately. The announcement was discreetly made at Andy's website, according to most news sources. In fact, it was so discreetly made that I couldn't find any mention of it for two days. Well, Andy's website now has the full story, courtesy of crack South Florida Sun-Sentinel tennis writer Charlie Bricker.

You’ve got to feel for Goldfine; it wasn’t like Roddick had an awful year. He didn’t gain ground on Roger Federer (if anything, he may have lost a little), yet nobody besides breakout star Rafael Nadal gained on Andy, either. Brad Gilbert has some interesting comments on Roddick’s situation here.

So the Roddick juggernaut will now be a family operation. My gut reaction to this setup is always similar: It strikes me as challenging in the same way that actually having to compete against a sibling, or going into business with one, can be a real minefield. On the other hand, Michael and Carl Chang had a pretty good—and certainly lengthy—run a few years back, and there’s nothing wrong with the way Mary Pierce played last year under the tutelage of her brother, David. She had a career year and vaulted into contention for a place in the International Tennis Hall of Fame. That’s not too shabby.

John will be Boy Andy’s third coach in 14 months, which tells you that either Roddick is very difficult to work with, or that he’s setting a very high standard for himself—and his coach. Clearly, it’s the latter. Andy hasn’t really had a bad loss since the U.S. Open first-round shocker last September (he lost to journeyman Gilles Muller), and anybody who thinks the stumble against Marcos Baghdatis in Melbourne a few weeks ago was inexplicable simply didn’t watch—or adequately appreciate—the run Baghdatis was on.

The money quote from Bricker’s piece:
One thing he will emphasize is getting his brother to move closer to the baseline, instead of playing way back, where he got a longer look at the ball but had farther to hit it.

Granted, Roddick has terrific mobility for a guy who stands 6-foot-3. But it’s still questionable whether someone with so much muscle and bone to move can haul it around as fast as necessary to play effectively from inside the court. Players who have made the most of taking the ball on the rise tend to be the cruiserweights (Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, Andre Agassi); the most muscular guy I can think of who played from inside the court was Jim Courier, who did it to devastating effect. Still, none of those men is nearly as big as Andy.

At another level, though, creeping up closer to the baseline would compliment perfectly the spadework Goldfine and Roddick did last year in getting Andy to attack his service returns with more gusto. The bottom line, I think, is that Andy was molded as a physical, punishing, consistent, unbreakable, inexhaustible baseliner; if there’s something going on here in the bigger picture, it’s his wish to morph into an aggressive all-courter developing an appetite for forcing play and even attacking the net.

In a way, Roddick’s struggle to keep pace with Federer (and, to a lesser degree, Nadal) makes him very appealing. It underscores his professionalism and pride. It’s also fascinating to watch this gradual transformation. A guy like this—any top pro, for that matter—has so much history, so much habit to overcome in any attempt to change his game. Its kind of like watching an oceanliner coming about. I’ve got to believe serious tennis nuts and aficionados of the game appreciate the nuances involved.

A lot of critics bemoan the “one-dimensional” nature of Roddick’s game (big serve, big forehand, big dropoff), but that game has been changing, without Roddick paying a high price. This is no mean feat. Just look at the way every female prodigy who’s come down the pike has a fine practice-court volley (the doubles proficiency of stars who rarely venture to the net in singles is telling), yet never makes good on the promise to develop more of an attacking game.

It’s hard to change a pro’s basic game. Very hard.

There’s been a lot of buzz lately about Roddick and Maria Sharapova; some have suggested that both are saddled with games that will keep them stuck just below the very top level. There’s some truth in that, but remember—Roddick has been in the last two Wimbledon finals, and the year before that he made the semis (he lost to Federer on all three occasions). That’s a great record at the most important tournament of them all.

I think Roddick will win Wimbledon one day, and he’ll be in the mix at the very top for a long time.
Also, the news about Goldfine's firing is back up on AR.com:

http://www.andyroddick.com/roddick-f...ther-to-coach/

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Charles Bricker: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Most players in professional tennis would be satisfied with 81 percent victories over the past 13 months and a No. 3 ranking in the world.

But after failing to win a second Grand Slam in the past two years and not satisfied with his progress, Andy Roddick has dismissed his coach, Dean Goldfine, it was announced Wednesday. He has turned the job over to his older brother, John Roddick.
Roddick, in San Diego to play Davis Cup for the United States vs. Romania, could not be immediately reached for comment. But his brother made it clear this is no interim coaching job.

“It’s something Andy and I are looking at keeping in place for awhile, as long as it’s moving in the right direction,” said John Roddick, who will be coaching a professional player for the first time. He is the owner and director of the Roddick-Moros International Tennis Academy in San Antonio, where he tutors several promising junior players.

“It’s a fair question,” Roddick replied when asked if he had the credentials to step up to the ATP Tour. “The important thing is I know Andy’s game and the trust he has in me. I’ve been looking forward to this opportunity, if it happened. We have a bond, an understanding. He knows I’m here looking out for his best interests, just having been around him his whole life.”

Goldfine, the Aventura-based coach who was with perennial top-10 Todd Martin for seven years, called the split completely amicable.

“When we talked it was a mutual decision. Obviously, I was disappointed, but we both want what he sees as best for him,” Goldfine said.

“Andy felt that basically I wasn’t able to help him play his best tennis.” He added: “I think, in general, coaches a lot of times get too much credit and too much of the blame. We can’t hit the balls for them.”

After 18 months with the high-profile, high-octane Brad Gilbert, who had formerly coached Andre Agassi, Roddick sought out the quieter but very experienced Goldfine, who then held a senior coaching position with the USTA. It seemed like a solid coupling.

In his first major with Goldfine, Roddick reached the semifinals of the Australian Open, and he would, in July, lose to Roger Federer in the Wimbledon final. In between, however, he lost in the second round of the French after being up two sets and a break in the third to Jose Acasuso.

And at the U.S. Open, he was stunned in the first round by erratic Luxembourgian Gilles Muller. He then won 10 of his final 12 matches to end the year, with losses to Ivo Karlovic and Ivan Ljubicic and declined to play the Masters Cup in Shanghai because of an injured lower back.

He began this year 3-1, losing in the fourth round at Australia to Marcos Baghdatis, bringing his record under Goldfine to 62-15 with five titles.

There’s no question that Goldfine raised Roddick’s fitness to a significantly higher level and increased his confidence in his backhand down the line, a critical addition to his shot repertoire. But that didn’t translate into any major titles in 2005.

“Unfortunately, the U.S. Open loss was very tough. For Andy, the Grand Slams are really at this point what matters,” Goldfine said. Roddick was the U.S. Open winner in 2003 at age 21, but he’s found Federer standing in his way since, and particularly at Wimbledon, where his powerful game does very well on grass.

John Roddick doesn’t plan many tactical changes of significance. “It’s not about changing Andy’s game. It’s about taking on a new mentality. He’s one of the few players who can assert his dominance over anyone with his power and spin, and his movement is very good for someone 6 feet 3,” Roddick said.

One thing he will emphasize is getting his brother to move closer to the baseline, instead of playing way back, where he got a longer look at the ball but had farther to hit it.

There has been no lack of suitors for Andy Roddick over the past couple of years. Former Wimbledon champion Michael Stich of Germany and two-time U.S. Open winner Patrick Rafter of Australia have offered to coach him.

Goldfine said he’s keeping his job options open. That could involve taking on another pro or going back to the USTA to work with the best young talent in the United States.

John Roddick becomes his brother’s fourth coach since he turned pro in 2000. Roddick began with Tarik Benhabiles, the former French Davis Cup doubles player, before hiring Gilbert.
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