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Old 09-25-2006, 12:33 PM   #91
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http://www.diariohoy.net/notas/verNo...tml/268480362/

DEPORTES La convicción de Agustín Calleri

“Lo importante es que somos un equipo”

Faltan más de dos meses, pero todo el país palpita la final de la Davis. Y el cordobés Calleri encuentra el secreto en que ahora conforman un grupo unido. Los conflictos de Vilas y Clerc o Coria y Gaudio quedaron atrás


La unión hace la fuerza. Ese parece ser el lema del equipo argentino de Copa Davis y así se mostraron sus protagonistas durante todo el fin de semana. Lejos de las escenas de vedettismo de la época de Vilas y Clerc, pero también de los conatos de conflicto que se vivieron hace muy poco, con Guillermo Coria y Gastón Gaudio, esta vez en el cuarteto argentino reina la paz. Todos tiran para adelante y con buena cara. Y eso lo ratificó Agustín Calleri, al que le tocó quedarse afuera de los singles en el primer día, pero que terminó por dar el tercer punto en el dobles junto a Nalbandian.
“Cualquiera de los tres podía jugar el viernes o el sábado, nadie quedó afuera de nada. Esto es un equipo y a uno le puede pasar jugar con la serie liquidada, como me pasó a mí en otras oportunidades. Acá ganamos los cuatro, es así. A veces es difícil porque todos tenemos ganas de jugar, pero yo creo que es la primera vez que un equipo llega a la final de la Copa Davis”, dijo el cordobés. Eso se notó en la cancha y se transmitió el público, que también jugó su partido.
El Gordo, además, se tomó el tiempo para analizar la serie: “El objetivo era definirla el sábado, dependíamos mucho del partido de Chucho porque era el más importante del viernes. El doble fue fundamental porque estar el sábado 3-0 arriba te da mucha tranquilidad y menos estrés. Para jugarlo se necesita comunicación, un entendimiento mutuo, tiene que haber química y con David la tenemos dentro y fuera de la cancha. Lo conozco mucho desde chico, de los provinciales y los nacionales y nos llevamos muy bien dentro y fuera de la cancha”.
En la misma sintonía opinó al respecto José Acasuso, el misionero que le dio a Argentina el punto más importante, tras derrotar a Lleyton Hewitt en el segundo single. El, pese a todo, se niega a ser considerado un jugador copero. “Para serlo hay que jugar varias series más. Recién es mi tercera serie y por suerte lo pude hacer bien de local y cuando me tocó jugar el dobles en Croacia. Estoy contento porque me tocó jugar bien para Argentina y por darle mis puntos al país. Eso es lo fundamental y por lo que todos estamos jugando. Estamos ante una posibilidad histórica y ojalá podamos terminar el año de la mejor manera y con el objetivo que queremos todos”, concluyó Chucho. Faltan dos meses para jugar la final


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"What is important is that we are a team"


There is less than two months to go, but the whole country is palpitates for the Davis Cup final. Calleri the man from Cordoba has found the secret and the team form a united group. The conflicts between Vilas and Clerc or Coria and Gaudio have been left behind.

Strength through unity seems to be the motto of the Argentine Davis Cup team. The protagonists all played on the weekend. Far from the vengeful scenes during the historical time of Vilas and Clerc and the unresolved conflict between Guillermo Coria and Gastón Gaudio, this Argentine quartet reign in peace. It’s full steam ahead and it looks good. Agustin Calleri said that it was his turn to miss out for the singles on the first day, but that was forgotten when along with Nalbandian in the doubles they got the third point.

“Any of the three could have played on Friday and Saturday and no one feels left out. This is a team and one can play when the matches are settled, as has happened to me in the past. Here we are four and at times it’s difficult cause we all want to play, but I believe that for the first time this is a team (in an Argentine context) that reaches the final of the Davis Cup.” Calleri said. It was noted on the court and the public played its part. El Gordo analysed the series. “The objective was to win it on Saturday and we depended on Chucho, because it was the most important match on Friday. The doubles was fundamental because to be 3-0 on Saturday relives stress and makes it calm. To play well communication is needed, a mutual understanding and there has to be chemistry and with David we have it on and off court. I know him well the boy from the provinces and the national team and we carry ourselves very well on and off court.”

In the same tune and respect to Jose Acasuso, the misionero who gave Argentina the most important point, after defeating Lleyton Hewitt in the second singles. In spite of this he refuses to be considered a cup player. “ To be one, I must play several more series. Recently this is my third series and fortunately I could well at home and in the doubles in Croatia. I am happy because I have played well for Argentina and giving them points for my country. This is the fundamental thing for which we are all playing for. We have a historic possibility and I hope we can finish the year in a good way and with our objective,” concluded Acasuso. They are waiting for two months to play final and the dream is still alive.
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Thanks for this. True that it's great to see that they ARE a team now. See, one can't say that France has the best players with great rankings but it didn't stop us from winning it several times. And that's because it's the work of a whole team, ready to fight for the same goal. So vamos Argentina.
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It´s common knowledge that Morea has a thing against Gastón, to such an extent that he never spoke about Gastón´s RG triumph, and the suspicion is that Morea may have leaned on Mancini for Gaston not to take part in the tie against Australia, on clay and on his home ground, in spite of the fact that Gastón had played pretty well in the US Open.

Going to Russia is another thing, and people aren´t seriously suggesting that Gastón be included. I don´t think even Gastón would recommend it, but he´s just a bit pissed off at having been passed over in BA.
First of all it seems you are suggesting that Mancini is a puppet? If that is the case then why did he select Puerta for the grass tie to play doubles against Australia. Why did he select Chucho for singles against the Swedes at the start of the year? He has made some tough calls and I doubt he is a puppet.

So Morea doesn't like Gaudio, big shit. Most people don't like Morea too much and it's easy to see why. Gaston plays Ok at the US Open and how was that a strong enough case for him to be included instead of Nalbandian, Chucho or Calleri.

He would have only been included as a token and head cheerleader instead of Chela and Chela had the better overall form in the summer clay season than Gaudio?

He has no case to be pissed off when the other 4 have been in better overall form than he has, especially not for the tie against Australia. If he was at his best then he'd more than likely be in the team, but he hasn't.
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First of all it seems you are suggesting that Mancini is a puppet? If that is the case then why did he select Puerta for the grass tie to play doubles against Australia. Why did he select Chucho for singles against the Swedes at the start of the year? He has made some tough calls and I doubt he is a puppet.

So Morea doesn't like Gaudio, big shit. Most people don't like Morea too much and it's easy to see why. Gaston plays Ok at the US Open and how was that a strong enough case for him to be included instead of Nalbandian, Chucho or Calleri.

He would have only been included as a token and head cheerleader instead of Chela and Chela had the better overall form in the summer clay season than Gaudio?

He has no case to be pissed off when the other 4 have been in better overall form than he has, especially not for the tie against Australia. If he was at his best then he'd more than likely be in the team, but he hasn't.
I don´t usually have black-or-white opinions, and I never said that Mancini was a puppet. He has shown the courage of his convictions and made some good choices. It´s still possible that he may have been doubting about including Gastón and that Morea prevailed.

Of course I never suggested that Gastón could have replaced Nalbandian, Acasuso or Calleri, it didn´t cross anybody´s mind, but the weak link of the team is Chela, obviously, and us Argentines that suffered seeing him almost lose in the fifth rubber against Croatia were praying he wouldn´t have to play when the result mattered!
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I don´t usually have black-or-white opinions, and I never said that Mancini was a puppet. He has shown the courage of his convictions and made some good choices. It´s still possible that he may have been doubting about including Gastón and that Morea prevailed.

Of course I never suggested that Gastón could have replaced Nalbandian, Acasuso or Calleri, it didn´t cross anybody´s mind, but the weak link of the team is Chela, obviously, and us Argentines that suffered seeing him almost lose in the fifth rubber against Croatia were praying he wouldn´t have to play when the result mattered!
By suggesting Morea is involved in selecting the squad is for all intent and purposes is that he is undermining Mancini's job and Mancini is no more than a stooge.

Only reason Chela played was cause Calleri wasn't fit enough to play against Tuksar. Even then can you not see Gaston has had a poor year compared to his previous two? He wasn't considered for that tie and why would they change the winning 4 for the semi final line up and if his form was that good, then it would have been harder to leave him out.
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Choupi, I dont know may you heard it already, but DC will be on hard. New surface caled RuKort, that was worked out in Italy by croatian specialists (dont even ask, in Russia its always like that ) As they annaunced they tests it now on Kremlin cup. I even got a piece of it, cos RuKort has it's own stand in VIP area. So I'm thinking about to send it to David))))))) Well, maybe they will choose another sort of this surface for DC, but the thing they use now is quite slow with low bounce, so I dont know if it's worth to use it with Argies But I believe in Torpischev for 150% and I will be agree with him whatever decision he will make
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Choupi, I dont know may you heard it already, but DC will be on hard. New surface caled RuKort, that was worked out in Italy by croatian specialists (dont even ask, in Russia its always like that)
Thanks for the news, Sonatinca! Whatever surface they choose in the end, I have a feeling that Russia will win! Although, personally, I like all the Russian players so it wouldn´t be AS painful as against another team.
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I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win
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I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win
Don't forget the Russians choked twice at home in Davis Cup finals and the only time they did win it was away from home.
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I't may sounds funny but as the time pasts I think more and more that argies will win, I dont even know why, but in any case I will be glad no matter if my national team win or my favorite player's team win
it's not a easy situation..i hope Argentina will win..but u know i like Marat too so....i'm happy for this final
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Hi, I don´t know if this article has already been posted elsewhere:

http://www.daviscup.com/news/newsarticle.asp?id=13948

24 Nov 2006 - Olympic Stadium, Moscow, Russia - Chris Bowers

Argentina's second generation cements legacy of Vilas and Clerc

Argentina’s presence in the 2006 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas Final against Russia represents the high point – so far – of the second world-class generation of Argentinean tennis. With the greatest respect to Gabriela Sabatini, who put the country on the women’s tennis map single-handedly during her best years of 1988-93, it’s not since Guillermo Vilas first popularised tennis in Argentina in the 1970s that the South American nation has featured so prominently in the jewels of tennis’s crown, the Grand Slams and the Davis Cup.

Vilas played a similar role in Argentina to that which Manolo Santana played in Spain – taking tennis out of the affluent classes and making it a sport that interests large swathes of the population. But to fully understand Vilas’s contribution requires an understanding of the turbulent background that is Argentina’s 20th century history.

From the time of the global economic crash of 1929 to the early years of this decade, Argentina’s fragile economy made it constantly vulnerable to military intervention. The era from 1946 to 1952 in which General Juan Perón ruled with his charismatic and politically astute wife Eva (the era celebrated in the rock opera “Evita” with its iconic theme song “Don’t Cry for Me, Argentina”) brought an enfranchisement of the working classes and widespread nationalisation and trade unionisation, but it also had its fair share of corruption. When Perón was deposed in 1955, it continued a climate of political unrest which saw a series of short-lived democratic renaissances alternating with various military juntas. Things hit their nadir between 1976 and 1983, when Argentina’s so-called “dirty war” led to an estimated 11,000 people disappearing (and the term “desaparecidos” entering United Nations vocabulary).

It meant that by the late 1970s, Argentinean citizens were desperate for heroes outside the political sphere. The success of the national soccer team, which hosted the 1978 World Cup and won it for the first time, made stars out of the captain Daniel Pasarela, the leading goalscorer Mario Kempes, and the chain-smoking coach César Luis Menotti. Some even say the World Cup title created such national enthusiasm that it helped keep the reigning military junta in power for another few years.

Until the 1970s, tennis had been limited largely to affluent circles, but then Guillermo Vilas emerged. He was runner-up at Roland Garros in 1975, and then won the French Open and US Open in 1977. More significantly for his profile back home, he steered Argentina to a Davis Cup victory over the USA in Buenos Aires that year, to give a major shot in the arm to Argentinean tennis. Vilas was partnered in that tie by Ricardo Cano, but really needed a stronger partner if Argentina was to make any headway in the Davis Cup.

He found that partner in José Luis Clerc. The two never got on particularly well, either with each other or with their national association, but all three parties recognised they had more to gain by working together than by fighting each other. And in March 1980 they struck gold, both men beating John McEnroe as the USA were again eclipsed at the Buenos Aires Lawn Tennis Club. But in September, the Czechoslovak team led by the 20-year-old Ivan Lendl was too strong. Argentina did win the second team competition in men’s tennis that year, the clay-based World Team Cup, but the Davis Cup remained the big prize.

In 1981, the Davis Cup changed format, introducing the 16-nation World Group. It meant a maximum of four ties per year, instead of the previous six (or possibly seven), and a strictly alternating home-and-away rule. Vilas was the hero in the away first round against West Germany, beating Uli Pinner in a live fifth rubber; both men won singles against a Romania missing the suspended Ilie Nastase; and neither dropped a set in a 5-0 win over Great Britain in the semifinals. Argentina was into its first Davis Cup final – but it meant a trip to a fast indoor court in Cincinnati.

In his book “The Davis Cup” published by the ITF in 1998, Richard Evans recounts that the Riverfront Coliseum, which seated 17,000, would have been largely empty for the 1981 final had not a local businessman, concerned for his city’s reputation, bought 10,000 seats and given them to his friends and associates. The problem was partly that McEnroe and Peter Fleming had posted a controversial performance against Australia in the semifinals which the US captain Arthur Ashe apologised for afterwards. The Coliseum was not full, but had enough atmosphere to do justice to a fascinating final.

McEnroe beat Vilas in straight sets, but Clerc then beat Roscoe Tanner in the second singles to leave the overnight score 1-1. When Vilas served for the doubles at 7-6 in the fifth, Argentina were on the point of taking a stranglehold on the final, but Vilas was broken, and when Clerc was broken six games later, McEnroe and Fleming had won 11-9. Clerc still took McEnroe to five sets the following day, but the fiercely patriotic McEnroe was not going to let a third winner’s medal elude him, and took the decider 6-3.

With Vilas reaching the last of his Grand Slam finals the following year, the golden era of Argentinean tennis was drawing to a close. The likes of Martin Jaite, Guillermo Perez Roldan, Alberto Mancini and Javier Frana flew the flag valiantly in the 1980s and 1990s, but it was only when the current crop of Argentinean players began to emerge in the late 90s that Argentina regained the tag of serious Davis Cup contenders. The high point of individual achievement came at 2004 Roland Garros, when two Argentineans, Gaston Gaudio and Guillermo Coria, contested the final, which Gaudio won from match point down. The high point of team achievement is the upcoming Davis Cup by BNP Paribas final.

None of today’s Argentinean tennis team is in any doubt that tennis is still some way behind football in national esteem. Tennis competes for second place with sports like volleyball, polo (Argentina won the first Olympic gold medal in polo in 1924), motor racing (the five-times world champion in the 1950s, Juan Manuel Fangio, was from Argentina), and even pato, a distinctly Argentinean sport which resembles a form of basketball on horseback. But the country’s top football idol, Diego Maradóna, has been an ardent fan of Argentina’s tennis team, and is promising to be in Moscow for the final. That shows a degree of recognition for tennis that can only cement the work done 25 years ago by Vilas and Clerc.
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They have trained in Geneva and are in Moscow and just hope that whoever plays can bring the DC to Argentina.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Thanks for the article Vale. And Vamos Argentina.
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