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Old 11-30-2005, 03:32 PM   #46
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I wonder what he meant that the prince graphite long body is his racquet because it goes with his game?? he doesnt say WHY it goes with his game.
i got the sunglasses pix, but i dont know if i will use that on the site cuz its not really so flattering a photo
Thanks Daze, I really do love to research and I'm pretty good at it generally. Loading the archives is really slow, but the only way to get at the old stuff. Shades pic is cute and funny, and I cut him some slack as he must be 19 or even younger in it?

On the racquet, have you checked out the news releases on the Prince site? Here's a link and one of the stories from Rotterdam this year - also a really good pic of signing autographs - love the stuff about the long line of fans below. (some incorrect info in it re: his historical high rank though I think)

Also, really love your website Daze, superb job. I especially love the part about how he could eat a sandwich and there would be a story and it would make you laugh and make you cry - so funny as it's absurd, but kind of true. That's how it is being a Guille fan, it's an emotional experience but well worth it. I found something very touching from an article published during the Nandrolone trial which demonstrates this somewhat, but I have to run now - will post it later.

PRINCE SITE LINK & ARTICLE:

http://www.princetennis.com/news_eve...DocumentID=299

Prince Star Coria Debuts New Prince Racquet Technology

"The feel of this racquet is something that I have never experienced before, I am hitting better shots more often."

Coria signing autographs for fans in Rotterdam

Since first testing a prototype at the Tennis Masters Cup in Houston last November, Guillermo Coria and his new Prince O3 racquet have become inseparable.

The Argentinean tennis star made his debut with the brand's O3 engineered racquets (pronounced O-three) at this year’s Australian Open – and is the first leading player to use Prince's breakthrough in racquet technology and design.

Coria follows in the footsteps of legendary technology pioneers like Pam Shriver, who switched to the oversized racquet in the late ‘70s; Jimmy Connors, who made a change to the T-2000 in the ‘80s; and Michael Chang who switched to the LongBody in the ‘90s.

The O3 series comprises of four models, with the Red and Silver models being available in March and the Blue and Tour models in May 2005.

"The feel of this racquet is something that I have never experienced before, I am hitting better shots more often," said Coria. "My serves are much faster and more precise since I started playing with the O3 in November. The speed and stability of the racquet makes my swings feel lighter, yet I am hitting faster, stronger shots."

Coria, who will spearhead a major O3 launch programme across Europe over the next few months, was overwhelmed by fans in Rotterdam who came to meet the Prince tennis star at an autograph-signing session set up by Prince distributors Van Megen Sports. The Argentinean ace was competing in the 32nd ABN AMRO World Tennis Tournament in the Dutch city.

"There were about 100-150 people who wanted Guillermo's autograph," said Van Megen's Sales Manager Arjan Verhoeven. "He really enjoyed it. After 30 minutes we had to stop, although people were still in the line for an autograph."

"The people were very, very, very interested in the Prince O3 technology," added Verhoeven. "Everybody loved the way it looked and they all wanted to buy a racquet immediately. We told them that they would have to wait a little bit – but again that wasn't a problem for them. They were prepared to wait for this kind of technology."

Since turning pro in 2000, Coria has had a successful four years earning eight singles titles, two of those titles last year alone in Buenos Aires and at the Monte Carlo AMS. Coria finished the 2004 season reaching a career-high ranking of number seven.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:23 PM   #47
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The O3 series comprises of four models, with the Red and Silver models being available in March and the Blue and Tour models in May 2005.

"The feel of this racquet is something that I have never experienced before, I am hitting better shots more often," said Coria. "My serves are much faster and more precise since I started playing with the O3 in November. The speed and stability of the racquet makes my swings feel lighter, yet I am hitting faster, stronger shots."
ok, i think we've found the culprit of guille's bad serve this year! the old 'racquet switeroo' trick!

and, i dont think he HAS been hitting "better shots more often" since using prince's 'special' new technology.

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Yet another doping allegation is being raised in MTF GM, but even if the rumours are true I have little faith in the ATP/ITF doing anything much about it. Why am I so skeptical? Consider this article before the Rusedski hearing:

"Rusedski, ...will be asked to explain how nandrolone found its way into his system and how diligent he was in adhering to the strict guidelines set down by the ATP, ... “A player’s lack of intent or lack of fault is not a defence to a doping offence,” ...And yet Rusedski’s positive sample ... was taken two months after the renegade tablets were no longer being distributed."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...995037,00.html

WADA discredited the ATPs claims later, but even if true, that positives were from trainers giving players tainted products, they were withdrawn months before Rusedski tested positive. Yet, Rusedski was cleared along with others like him among those now known only as "the secret six."

Compare what the secret six went through, how they avoided being subject to public scrutiny with what Guille and other Argentines went through and continue to go through today: (from the same article)

"Guillermo Coria ... needed a ten-minute recess during his hearing to comfort his distraught family. His fellow Argentinians, Mariano Puerta and Martin Rodriguez, also broke into tears at their recent hearings."

Those who say Guille was weak for how he reacted to his anti-doping sanction do not have a clue what these experiences must have been like for the players made scapegoats so the ATP could protect their critical players from harm. Imagine knowing you weren't protected, but your opponent was. Imagine being singled out and criticized continually when you aren't any more at fault than many others who will never be revealed. That Guille (and other Argentine players) came back stronger because of it proves they are far from fragile. That they can face the future with a positive outlook and put the injustice of the sytem out of their minds enough to concentrate and win in spite of the way the press, some fans, and some of their peers now look down on them is IMO amazing. Other Argentines were sanctioned, but Guille's name is always mentioned even today, often he is even more criticized than the player at issue, and when his case was murky at best.

Guille has far more to overcome than so many of the other top players, but he is overcoming it - the sanctions, the effect of that on losing his first opportunity (of many IMO) to win a slam, the shoulder surgery. Others, such as those subjected to slavery or racism, have suffered worse injustices and learned to overcome their anger and prevail. Staying positive in spite of it and using the lessons learned to become stronger and better is the only useful path and it is wisely the one Guille is taking. It takes time to get there, but he is getting there. How and why are what the new website help us to understand a little better. Thanks again for that!
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ok, i think we've found the culprit of guille's bad serve this year! the old 'racquet switeroo' trick!

and, i dont think he HAS been hitting "better shots more often" since using prince's 'special' new technology.

Must say I found it v. interesting how during the China Open commentary Leif Shiras said his DFs came about when his sponsor had him switch racquets.

I have to listen to that part again, but I think it was a wider body racquet. Is it a coincidence that Guille is playing with a larger-face racquet too? It could be, as other players using it aren't having DF problems. (Isn't Ferrero using it too?) DFs could be related to surgery, or something else too. It's hard to diagnose, but good to consider the racquet which ought to be a fixable cause.

(Not sure in re: sponsors, but wouldn't they want the players using their products to play their best tennis, so shouldn't they try to match players with the right racquets - one would think. Changing back to a more retro model might help them sell more racquets and make more money too - everyone with O3 will want the new one even if their O3 is in perfect condition. How about calling it O2, or was that done already? lol)
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Must say I found it v. interesting how during the China Open commentary Leif Shiras said his DFs came about when his sponsor had him switch racquets.

I have to listen to that part again, but I think it was a wider body racquet. Is it a coincidence that Guille is playing with a larger-face racquet too? It could be, as other players using it aren't having DF problems. (Isn't Ferrero using it too?) DFs could be related to surgery, or something else too. It's hard to diagnose, but good to consider the racquet which ought to be a fixable cause.

(Not sure in re: sponsors, but wouldn't they want the players using their products to play their best tennis, so shouldn't they try to match players with the right racquets - one would think. Changing back to a more retro model might help them sell more racquets and make more money too - everyone with O3 will want the new one even if their O3 is in perfect condition. How about calling it O2, or was that done already? lol)
Some of the commentators here have also speculated about whether the change in racquet has contributed to the serve problems. If I recall correctly, I'm sure that one of the reasons he switched racquet (apart from pressure from Prince!) was because this racquet is lighter than his old one, which was an important factor after his surgery.

I don't think Ferrero is using it as he changed from Prince to Head, I believe, although I think Davide Sanguinetti and Nikolai Davydenko both use the same racquet.
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I don't think Ferrero is using it as he changed from Prince to Head, I believe, although I think Davide Sanguinetti and Nikolai Davydenko both use the same racquet.
Oh thanks! I was too lazy to check the Prince site, but I gave in, so here is their list:

Player Racquet Nationality
Guillermo Coria O3 Tour ARG
Nikolay Davydenko O3 Tour RUS
Xavier Malisse Diablo MID BEL
Olivier Rochus NXGraphite MP BEL
Vince Spadea Graphite Classic OS USA
David Ferrer Shark DB MP ESP
Davide Sanguinetti O3 Tour ITA
Jan-Michael Gambill Shark MP USA

Davydenko and Sanguinetti aren't DFing that I've noticed, although maybe they adjusted their serves differently to accomodate the new racquet? Just a thought.
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haha i like that site alot, thank you very much and good job, i can't wait to see more updates in '06
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Going back a couple of posts -- The crap about the "secret six" and Rusedski is that the reason they were let off the hook is because the ATP could not prove that the dirtys did NOT come from the suspect tablets and not that there was any proof at all that the dirtys did in fact come from the suspect tablets.

I do think the players go through a terrible time when they face being suspended and banned, but how do you plan to eliminate that process if players are to be held accountable for taking banned substances?

I think the ATP has been pretty lienient with players all around.

If Guille comes up positive again, I think he will deserve to have a harsh suspension.
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Going back a couple of posts -- The crap about the "secret six" and Rusedski is that the reason they were let off the hook is because the ATP could not prove that the dirtys did NOT come from the suspect tablets and not that there was any proof at all that the dirtys did in fact come from the suspect tablets.

I do think the players go through a terrible time when they face being suspended and banned, but how do you plan to eliminate that process if players are to be held accountable for taking banned substances?

I think the ATP has been pretty lienient with players all around.

If Guille comes up positive again, I think he will deserve to have a harsh suspension.
I don't know how you came to those conclusions about the "secret six" when the ATP didn't release their tribunal records and in several cases never held a tribunal at all. WADA did, however review the records and came to these conclusions: (http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...atp_report.pdf)

"Now that it is clearly established that the source of contamination is not the electrolyte, the legal analysis behind the seven cases (excluding Rusedski which was not part of the present review conducted by WADA), is not sustainable. The consequence and the problem arising from this situation is that there are now seven cases where exonerations were granted on what re now clearly unsustainable grounds and the exonerations may not be able to be re-visited.

3. WADA is disappointed to see that in Cases 6 and 7 the ATP anti-doping tribunal persisted in the application of the estoppel principle despite the fact that the ATP itself indicated that it already had new evidence to the effect that at least two players who showed trace amounts of metabolites of nandrolone with the same unique analytical fingerprint had not consumed the electrolyte tablet."

Also, strict liability is not meant to require the ATP to prove anything but that the substance was in the player's body:

"Under the strict liability principle which is, and must be, the bedrock of any anti-doping program, it is not ATP’s responsibility to track the source of any elevated or positive result. It is for the player to prove how the substance gets into his/her body. Again, ATP, being a player association, understandably wants to assist its members in detecting such source."

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The ATP applied strict liability to Guille, but ignored it in regard to others. IMO the conflict of interest is too great for the ATP and it should yield anti-doping authority to WADA which would likely adminster justice in a fairer and more even-handed manner, ensuring a more level playing field. The stigma against those sanctioned is IMO exaggerated by the ATP's selective enforcement and leads the misconception that only Argentines are doping and only a few select players are. I do not condone doping and wish for the sport to be clean. Happily I do not need to address whether Guille would deserve to be sanctioned again as it hasn't happened again (and I hope it never does). I do find the sanctions poorly devised, however, as little consideration is given for the severity of the offense, e.g. 2 offenses = a ban. Those 2 offenses could be failure to obtain a waiver for a legitimately prescribed medicine, or large doses of performance enhancing steroids. The punishment should more appropriately address the severity of the offense.
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You know I have always wondered about this drug testing anyway. I mean a sample is taken from a player, but then the player is out of the picture. Samples could be switched
without any player knowing about it. Samples could be tampered with and the player wouldn't know it. I think the whole system is open to a lot of questions myself.
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Great, great site ! Thanks for sharing it !!
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not sure i totally get what you're saying. you liked the first pages...do you mean the main page and the 'bad boy' & 'carla' sections?? try to use the pictures as illustration, but not so much the little captions (which maybe are distracting from the rest of the text??)

the 'few touches' is to make more writing???

i am always nervous about how much text to put in because i dont know if people really read when on the internet...it is usualy considered a 'graphics' medium. i am just TOLD that people dont read and its best to keep the amount of words down. but i like text!! so are you saying you also want more writing?

thanks for the feedback!!

Don't be nervous about the writing!!! It's off the fucking hook! OMG this site is THE FUCKING SHIT. It's just the epiphany if IT. IT IS JUST SO DAMN COOL. I just finished reading the Bad Boy page. It's so Goddamn cool. I love this:
"He's beautiful, he's bold, and he is a master of what to do with a heavy set of balls, as shown here." Simply great!!!! Off the fucking chain. JUST SICK. Ok, I'm gonna go look at the rest of the site Fuck some Goddamn chores! KINGCORIA.COM BITCHES! This is totally making my entire week. Fuck some Goddamn work. I can't wait til I show my bro this site. He's gonna frickin' love it!!! Dude, my year is like, ending on a good note. THANKS DAZE! YOU FUCKING ROCK!
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Don't be nervous about the writing!!! It's off the fucking hook! OMG this site is THE FUCKING SHIT. It's just the epiphany if IT. IT IS JUST SO DAMN COOL. I just finished reading the Bad Boy page. It's so Goddamn cool. I love this:
"He's beautiful, he's bold, and he is a master of what to do with a heavy set of balls, as shown here." Simply great!!!! Off the fucking chain. JUST SICK. Ok, I'm gonna go look at the rest of the site Fuck some Goddamn chores! KINGCORIA.COM BITCHES! This is totally making my entire week. Fuck some Goddamn work. I can't wait til I show my bro this site. He's gonna frickin' love it!!! Dude, my year is like, ending on a good note. THANKS DAZE! YOU FUCKING ROCK!
thanks GG!!!!! i always love your opinion! i added a link to all his results & h2h match-ups from the ITF site...I could make a whole section of these, of course, but their site is well done, always updated, and allows the H2H check very easily. Besides, KINGCORIA is for his personality etc and just to spread some love of him...I think his official site will do the 'results' thing, and other sites exist also with that kind of information. I am trying to present the "Guille: Rock Star" angle!

I have this next week off, so I hope to get one or two more written sections added, but I am sooooooo busy, it is proving harder to get the time together to make this thing really great. BUT i am setting some kind of deadline to myself so that when he starts up at the aussie open, KINGCORIA will be there to start it up with him!!
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This is a great site within a site. I don't think I have seen anything to compare with it on the whole Forum Thanks for putting it in the Forum
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thanks GG!!!!! i always love your opinion! i added a link to all his results & h2h match-ups from the ITF site...I could make a whole section of these, of course, but their site is well done, always updated, and allows the H2H check very easily. Besides, KINGCORIA is for his personality etc and just to spread some love of him...I think his official site will do the 'results' thing, and other sites exist also with that kind of information. I am trying to present the "Guille: Rock Star" angle!

I have this next week off, so I hope to get one or two more written sections added, but I am sooooooo busy, it is proving harder to get the time together to make this thing really great. BUT i am setting some kind of deadline to myself so that when he starts up at the aussie open, KINGCORIA will be there to start it up with him!!
You're welcome! I don't know how you see it, but your writing is very brilliant and I don't say that lightly. The way all the sections are written is like a manifestation of how I think as a Guille fan A day in the Life was just great! I asked my bro "Ok, what was Guille singing?" ya know, on the part with the guitar and stuff. And he had it perfect! "Sweet chil'o mine" by Guns 'n Roses! Oh btw!! One thing "wrong" with the Mysterious Carla page. Guille admitted last year that he was too shy to tell Carla that he liked her so he says Carla is the one who made the first move
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