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Old 11-16-2005, 10:50 AM   #1
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Default Anger at Masters pullouts justified says Federer

Anger at Masters pullouts justified says Federer

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Roger Federer believes that criticism from tournament organizers of a spate of pullouts at the year-ending Masters Cup was fully justified.

The world number one refused to condemn Chinese organizers for calling into question Andre Agassi's reasons for quitting the $4.45 million tournament earlier this week.

"I think criticism is allowed at this point," said Federer after making it two wins out of two in Shanghai on Tuesday.

"They signed a three-year deal. I understand the big disappointment from the government, from the tournament, from the fans."

Agassi pulled out on Monday citing an ankle injury after hobbling to a 6-4 6-2 defeat by Russia's Nikolay Davydenko in his first match.

The American's withdrawal came after Spain's French Open champion Rafael Nadal pulled out through injury. Andy Roddick, Marat Safin and Lleyton Hewitt were all Shanghai no-shows.

Organizers were scornful of Agassi's decision to withdraw even though the eight-times grand slam winner arrived in China with an ankle injury.

But Federer sought to heal any potential rift by praising Agassi for trying to play on his sore ankle.

"I don't know how bad it really was...but I think it's still great that he shows up and tried," said Federer. "Maybe the other guys could have tried too.

"I don't know. I don't think so because they know their bodies."

Federer himself was on crutches just three weeks ago after hurting his ankle in practice but has beaten David Nalbandian and Ivan Ljubicic to close in on a third straight Masters Cup title.

"I came here not knowing if I could play and I went through the therapy just to really show the people how much this event really means to me," said the Wimbledon and U.S. Open champion.

"Sort of arrived basically on one leg. Now that I can play it's fantastic. It should also show a message how important this tournament is to tennis. For me this equals a grand slam."
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:36 AM   #2
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Default Re: Anger at Masters pullouts justified says Federer

I was raised that it's not what you do it's how you do it. This is why Andre's butt is in a sling and why Federer can't say anything other than what he did.
I'm sure the Andre defenders will come out of the woodwork now.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:38 AM   #3
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Well said Fedgod
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:43 AM   #4
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The American's withdrawal came after Spain's French Open champion Rafael Nadal pulled out through injury. Andy Roddick, Marat Safin and Lleyton Hewitt were all Shanghai no-shows.

Organizers were scornful of Agassi's decision to withdraw even though the eight-times grand slam winner arrived in China with an ankle injury.

But Federer sought to heal any potential rift by praising Agassi for trying to play on his sore ankle.

"I don't know how bad it really was...but I think it's still great that he shows up and tried," said Federer. "Maybe the other guys could have tried too.

"I don't know. I don't think so because they know their bodies."
I always admire Roger for being a real gentleman , but i think that when he says a comment like this : " "Maybe the other guys could have tried too. " i think it's a little lack of respect towards the players that have withdrawn before playing the first match because he isn't inside the body of those players, and he doesn't know how bad are the injuries, and which is the risk for these players to play and to get worse their injuries
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:45 AM   #5
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I always admire Roger for being a real gentleman , but i think that when he says a comment like this : " "Maybe the other guys could have tried too. " i think it's a lack of respect towards the players that have withdraw before playing the first match because he isn't inside the body of those players, and he doesn't know how bad are the injuries, and which is the risk for these players to play and to get worse their injuries
Perhaps you missed the next sentence in which he clearly recognised that it may not have been possible because they 'know their bodies'
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:47 AM   #6
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Perhaps you missed the next sentence in which he clearly recognised that it may not have been possible because they 'know their bodies'
I haven't missed the next sentence since i've quoted it . Existing the last sentence or not, i think he shouldn't give advices when we are talking about a thing as personal/private as an injruy

I think if Roger had withdrawn of the TMC because of his ankle injury he had taken badly ( anger ) that another player told him in a press conference what he has to do or not

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Old 11-16-2005, 11:50 AM   #7
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Then how is it arrogant? He says they may have tried but then recognises this may have been impossible due to their injuries
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The players are treated almost like kings. That's ridiculous
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Well the tournament directors don't care about the injuries to the player, all they care about is profits
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Then how is it arrogant? He says they may have tried but then recognises this may have been impossible due to their injuries
I'm not telling he has been arrogant, i admire Roger a lot, and this sentence won't make me change my mind about him at all , He's a very nice guy, he's an example of how a nş1 must behave . I'm only saying that i think this sentence/advice wasn't necessary since it can be considered as a meddling and a lack of respect .
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Default Re: Anger at Masters pullouts justified says Federer

I don't think those comments were necessary at all... Federer doesn't know how these players feel, so he shouldn't comment on it.
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Thread title is a journalist style interpretation of what was said. The interview is far more balanced. Need to read interview carefully.
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mirkaland, thanks for posting Roger's comments. IMO, Roger has been very candid about his feelings, but at the same time he was very diplomatic.Exactly something very indicative of his character. He comes out very genuine, and is charming. Before he was shy but now he has learned to handle the media. I don't believe he has any arrogance at all in him on the court or off.
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Maybe the other guys could have tried too.
This statement is particularly arrogant toward the circumstances of Hewitt's withdrawal. I guess that, since Federer is not a father, he cannot understand Hewitt's choice to be with his wife as she approaches their child's birth.

As for Safin and Roddick, given their advantages on carpet, I think to suggest that somehow either was faking or exaggerating their injuries is off-base. If the surface was grass (for Safin) or clay (for Roddick), then the suggestion might have some basis.

Furthermore, Safin has been injured all fall and Roddick was injured at a Master's tournament which Federer was too injured to play.
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I always admire Roger for being a real gentleman , but i think that when he says a comment like this : " "Maybe the other guys could have tried too. " i think it's a little lack of respect towards the players that have withdrawn before playing the first match because he isn't inside the body of those players, and he doesn't know how bad are the injuries, and which is the risk for these players to play and to get worse their injuries
lol. boy you do try hard
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