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Old 05-21-2014, 01:12 PM   #31
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It's all to do with Biology, women are more attracted to dominant individuals rather then sub-ordinate ones, the best way to show your status is interactions with others of the same species. If you aren't very social you may be perceived as a sub-ordinate, this is why sports are attractive to women, as physical strength is a sign of dominance.
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It's all to do with Biology, women are more attracted to dominant individuals rather then sub-ordinate ones, the best way to show your status is interactions with others of the same species. If you aren't very social you may be perceived as a sub-ordinate, this is why sports are attractive to women, as physical strength is a sign of dominance.
You are presuming too much.

Categorisation in such would be
1- If a girl is ongoing - characteristic developed on influence by the group that individual(girl) interacts.
2- If a girl is not on going - your answer cannot be consider valid.

So your answer is limited to one particular group (for example ongoing girls that interact alot). Which in my experience is not even remotely compositional for the rest of examples in other groups (of girls).

There are women that develop dominance stance for example. That answer you gave cannot be valid for them. Often such women are basing their character on "sub-ordinate species" as you mentioned.

And honestly such talk in psychology is very crude and avoided, as its vulgar.

We are emotionally more adept humans then ever, one human individual cannot form dominant alpha stance or beta or gamma. But often we correspond accordingly to situations.
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You are presuming too much.

Categorisation in such would be
1- If a girl is ongoing - characteristic developed on influence by the group that individual(girl) interacts.
2- If a girl is not on going - your answer cannot be consider valid.
I think you are overplaying the influence social conditioning plays in attraction.

This might be pure speculation on my part, but it seems logical to me that mating and attraction patterns have much more to do with the hard-wired preference both women and men have for successful, dominant individuals of the opposite sex.
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:27 PM   #34
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You are presuming too much.

Categorisation in such would be
1- If a girl is ongoing - characteristic developed on influence by the group that individual(girl) interacts.
2- If a girl is not on going - your answer cannot be consider valid.

So your answer is limited to one particular group (for example ongoing girls that interact alot). Which in my experience is not even remotely compositional for the rest of examples in other groups (of girls).

There are women that develop dominance stance for example. That answer you gave cannot be valid for them. Often such women are basing their character on "sub-ordinate species" as you mentioned.

And honestly such talk in psychology is very crude and avoided, as its vulgar.

We are emotionally more adept humans then ever, one human individual cannot form dominant alpha stance or beta or gamma. But often we correspond accordingly to situations.
There is nothing crude about it, at the end of the day humans are animals and thus we have animal instincts. Attractiveness is not effected by society but the need to produce offspring with the best alleles, it is by essence why the Homo Sapiens has become the dominant species of Hominidae.
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:28 PM   #35
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I think you are overplaying the influence social conditioning plays in attraction.

This might be pure speculation on my part, but it seems logical to me that mating and attraction patterns have much more to do with the hard-wired preference both women and men have for successful, dominant individuals of the opposite sex.
Yes , I wasn't clear on my answer previously. Post that I criticized is actually wrong all together. I was just trying to indicate how it will flows in such talk.

It is true what you say, but its not a rule. And therefore I cannot say its a pattern. As I said previously. You cannot categorise such stuff. Its impossible . What you think you can see are distinctive behavioral patterns in group. Indicative pattern you can follow are called characteristics. So you can make definition ,cause and most importantly reason behind it.

I cannot say all girls wet their pussies on strong alpha males, because its not true. Not even in majority of them. But what I can say that for example, sexual preference are loosely based on parents(Daddy / Mommy issue) first. Take that as a pedestal.

Then it is shaped by society (NOT ALL SOCIETY)(preferably group in where individual have socialisation, that can be from 2 to I donno give any number of people)
Then it is shaped by experience in life. (e.g different traumas , different set of groups of people you encounter that will leave a mark on your thoughts.)
Then it is shaped by emotions . (Those emotions are 90% of time situational and short lived- unless scared by traumas or by any physical defect)

That all accounted can be discovered only through direct interaction. Not by any speculation, and or generalisation. And we cannot follow such stuff through patterns .

If you can see attraction pattern in one girl, then you are already knowledgeable in some aspect of her life and persona. If not, I must say this and can't stress enough. You are doing nothing but speculation and prejudge people. That are based on stereotyping .

This is why word stereotype exist. In many instances you cannot find a pattern due to complex nature of our selfs.
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There is nothing crude about it, at the end of the day humans are animals and thus we have animal instincts. Attractiveness is not effected by society but the need to produce offspring with the best alleles, it is by essence why the Homo Sapiens has become the dominant species of Hominidae.
Psychology is not a biology . What you say its true. However I stand by my words.
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Psychology is not a biology . What you say its true. However I stand by my words.
Psychology has everything to do with Biology, are psychology is based on our genetic make up which has been formed via natural selection.
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Psychology has everything to do with Biology, are psychology is based on our genetic make up which has been formed via natural selection.
Psychology is just a pseudo link to Biology. Where basic principal of human anatomy is presented so we (Psychologists) understand its roots of those behavioral patterns and mental functions, of sort link.

After that Psychology distinctive way through discovering cognitive functions . But after that you have psychological concepts about perception,attention, emotion, phenomenology, etc etc.

Categorised as behaviorism , methodology , social psychology , individual social psychology, sociology , social psychology of individual behavior in masses . Etc.

So I say nay.


Also sorry for any mistakes, my English is not native.
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im completely asocial, introvert and i don't hang out anywhere

didn't stop me from meeting the right guys

i guess there are so many different types of people, to each their own. i can imagine there are some chicks who's appreciate you don't go out much a lot where you could meet other women
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Psychology is just a pseudo link to Biology. Where basic principal of human anatomy is presented so we (Psychologists) understand its roots of those behavioral patterns and mental functions, of sort link.

After that Psychology distinctive way through discovering cognitive functions . But after that you have psychological concepts about perception,attention, emotion, phenomenology, etc etc.

Categorised as behaviorism , methodology , social psychology , individual social psychology, sociology , social psychology of individual behavior in masses . Etc.

So I say nay.


Also sorry for any mistakes, my English is not native.
Ha, no your English is good. Although cognitive functions are part of phychology they are products of Biology, our cognitive functions are all formed from our genetic make up and passed through our genes.
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im completely asocial, introvert and i don't hang out anywhere

didn't stop me from meeting the right guys

i guess there are so many different types of people, to each their own. i can imagine there are some chicks who's appreciate you don't go out much a lot where you could meet other women
I thought you hung out at Tennis events?
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Ha, no your English is good. Although cognitive functions are part of phychology they are products of Biology, our cognitive functions are all formed from our genetic make up and passed through our genes.
I agree. However, cognitive functions cannot be explained in biology other then how they operate physically . Mental cognitive functions are explained via psychology. Psychology is just link between Biology and various concepts of psy, as I said previously. And by today standard two separated thing. Mainly due to ever growing knowledge.

That said, that is why its imperative noting that, what you said about reproduction. Striping everything, and you left with basic instinct . But that cannot help us in determining mental state of one group or individual. With that in mind, we just speculate.
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im completely asocial, introvert and i don't hang out anywhere

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It's not about you as the woman being outgoing or not, the thread is about girls in general (both outgoing and non-outgoing) being attracted to outgoing guys.

Of course it's not a blanket rule but it's a very strong predictor of which guys will be considered generally attractive.
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Why is this thread even in contention?

Put two twins next to each other, exact same looks, both 10/10 attractiveness.

The only difference is that one is more social than the other.

I'd argue 90% of the time, women would choose the confident guy.

Go back to neanderthal times, hell even go back to when we were monkeys and you will see that the confident social male is the one that lead the pack or got the girl. It's not rocket science.
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