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Old 05-17-2014, 11:07 PM   #16
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Default Re: The MTF Best Song Game #4 | Theme: the 1970s songs

i didnt vote for either man who sold the world nor wish you were here

i dont even think man who sold the world is such a good song or that nirvana is such a good band tbh, i prefer those that i voted for
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:15 PM   #17
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Default Re: The MTF Best Song Game #4 | Theme: the 1970s songs

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appeal for improving the song game


the main joy of this game is to discover new/unknown
(and of course appealing) songs, isnt it?

but by giving points to old classics you have heard a 1000 times before (such as "Man who sold the world" or "Wish you were here") you devalue the game
as people will continue (or even expedite) to submit that kind of songs if they are rewarded for it.


it makes little sense to blame the persons who do so (as everybody wants to win of course), but the ones who vote it!
thats dull and amateurish behaviour for a jury and low level attitude.


how to make it better?
even when you give "only" 6 or 7 points to those well-known entries, it accumulates and the song might finish high.
thats why the best formula is to give ZERO points to entries you already know all over. simple.

(in case you know all songs - of the 70th f.i. - you cant comply with that, but all others can and that suffices.
more likely is that its very possible to submit songs - also from the 70th - that are not so classically well-known.)



...i'm saying this cause i would like to light on new and exciting tracks also in the future
and participants who always submit original entries (Sauletekis f.i.) to go on with that (and not go down the drain).

should things not change for the better, should you not succeed in entertaining me anymore, i will leave this place and resort to GM. ...i'm serious!
Agreed, but each person has its own willing, so we cannot judge on them if they want to send massive known songs. For sure I will do my part on giving them less points than I would probably give. Only if the songs I don't know are terrible, lol.

Anyway, in this particular theme it may be harder to not send very well known songs, because very few of us (if not any) were borned listening to these songs, so what we usually know are the classics, and the classics... well... they are universally known.

But tottally agreed and understand what you are saying
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:33 PM   #18
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In.

Theme could have been more creative imo. Also, everyone knows the 80's are the best music decade.
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:35 PM   #19
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Default Re: The MTF Best Song Game #4 | Theme: the 1970s songs

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appeal for improving the song game


the main joy of this game is to discover new/unknown
(and of course appealing) songs, isnt it?

but by giving points to old classics you have heard a 1000 times before (such as "Man who sold the world" or "Wish you were here") you devalue the game
as people will continue (or even expedite) to submit that kind of songs if they are rewarded for it.


it makes little sense to blame the persons who do so (as everybody wants to win of course), but the ones who vote it!
thats dull and amateurish behaviour for a jury and low level attitude.


how to make it better?
even when you give "only" 6 or 7 points to those well-known entries, it accumulates and the song might finish high.
thats why the best formula is to give ZERO points to entries you already know all over. simple.

(in case you know all songs - of the 70th f.i. - you cant comply with that, but all others can and that suffices.
more likely is that its very possible to submit songs - also from the 70th - that are not so classically well-known.)



...i'm saying this cause i would like to light on new and exciting tracks also in the future
and participants who always submit original entries (Sauletekis f.i.) to go on with that (and not go down the drain).

should things not change for the better, should you not succeed in entertaining me anymore, i will leave this place and resort to GM. ...i'm serious!
fair points...but what if my 'rare' song doesn't appeal to you, would you vote for it just because it's not mainstream?
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Stop quoting that pink monstrosity, please.
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Stop quoting that pink monstrosity, please.
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appeal for improving the song game


the main joy of this game is to discover new/unknown
(and of course appealing) songs, isnt it?

but by giving points to old classics you have heard a 1000 times before (such as "Man who sold the world" or "Wish you were here") you devalue the game
as people will continue (or even expedite) to submit that kind of songs if they are rewarded for it.


it makes little sense to blame the persons who do so (as everybody wants to win of course), but the ones who vote it!
thats dull and amateurish behaviour for a jury and low level attitude.


how to make it better?
even when you give "only" 6 or 7 points to those well-known entries, it accumulates and the song might finish high.
thats why the best formula is to give ZERO points to entries you already know all over. simple.

(in case you know all songs - of the 70th f.i. - you cant comply with that, but all others can and that suffices.
more likely is that its very possible to submit songs - also from the 70th - that are not so classically well-known.)



...i'm saying this cause i would like to light on new and exciting tracks also in the future
and participants who always submit original entries (Sauletekis f.i.) to go on with that (and not go down the drain).

should things not change for the better, should you not succeed in entertaining me anymore, i will leave this place and resort to GM. ...i'm serious!
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Just sent my song.
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Good theme, I'm in!
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In. Brilliant category, will be spoiled for choice here .
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Anything off Physical Graffiti should be considered cheating here.

Song sent.
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^Since my megapost last year, I disqualified myself from posting anything LZ-related here again. 15 vids in a single post is pushing the boundaries.

In, by the way. Will send song of choice tomorrow.

Can't pick Zappa. Too transparent. But the rest of you can. Hint hint.
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Very good selection. Kudos for including The Ocean and The Rover, two of my favourite Zeppelin songs.

I considered In My Time of Dying for the last edition but decided I had too much of an attachment to the song and could not bear not winning with it.
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When the Levee Breaks is my favourite Zep, I was seriously considering that one for a minute
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