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Old 05-02-2014, 04:21 PM   #16
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Don't agree with OP's far right Hindutva sentiments. Definitely do agree that Modi is the best way forward for us, but mainly for economic reasons.
Development includes strengthening of cultural identity too. Development does not mean just dollars. But with no shortage of hindus like you in India, India would do very well to continue posing damage to her own roots even during BJP tenure. All hopes are on BJP and Sangh to set our nation on its original path which is Dharma. Their pre election campaigning is one thing, just a safe strategy. But I am sure they are determined to give Dharma the topmost priority and eliminate all the anti dharmic scum from the country.
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OP is so obsessed with the US

Stay pressed
There is nothing to be pressed about US, a country whose economy is all set to run into abyss. With Modi ascending the throne many of their dreams will be shattered. Like the TAPI pipeline on which US has already spent billions of dollars. Modi would show cold shoulder to USA's proposal and would rather prefer diplomatic ties with Russia. You will see the strength of NaMo after the elections.

Pakistan, US and China are all afraid of Namo and the potential ground shattering Indo-Russian alliance.
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You are asking sources of pseudo genuine western media for approval of pseudo secularism in India.
What does that even mean?

And you have serious credibility issues if you can't find any reporting from any of the media outlets I listed to back your assertions up.
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well UKs GDP growth is forecast for over 2% this year and Russias is now 0.2%
You can post the numbers you like, walking the walk may not be the same. UK is a country full of whitecollar-jobless men and women. The outlook of Russian economy may not appear to be rosy to outside world but they are definitely working on their strengths. Measuring eastern situations on western parameters is also not a great idea.
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What does that even mean?

And you have serious credibility issues if you can't find any reporting from any of the media outlets I listed to back your assertions up.
It only means that Western media just pretend to be genuine and are actually unreliable like congress party of India.

And you won't find any articles in India because all the media in India is paid heavily by the ruling party Congress. So they wouldn't write anything against Congress. You can keep looking for information on the web, you would know about congress's list of sins on Hinduism.
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What does that even mean?

And you have serious credibility issues if you can't find any reporting from any of the media outlets I listed to back your assertions up.
Serious credibility issues if OP thinks The Guardian/Washington Post are pseudo-secular.

And how is bandwagoning Russia going to be different from bandwagoning the US? Neither will help the country's inner problems. India needs to focus more on its internal problems starting poverty, caste divisions, corruption in bureaucracy, employment, treatment of women, etc before it can even imagine anything close to real progress. Getting buildings and bridges made are embellishments, but they are skipping the core issues.
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Serious credibility issues if OP thinks The Guardian/Washington Post are pseudo-secular.

And how is bandwagoning Russia going to be different from bandwagoning the US? Neither will help the country's inner problems. India needs to focus more on its internal problems starting poverty, caste divisions, corruption in bureaucracy, employment, treatment of women, etc before it can even imagine anything close to real progress. Getting buildings and bridges made are embellishments, but they are skipping the core issues.
I don't care about western media. So I don't know whether those two papers had any coverage on the issue. As an India, I will give you some first hand information about burning issues in India. You can google for detailed information.

Congress brought in 700 million illegal bangladesh muslims to boost up their vote bank in this crisis times. Google "Aadhar card scam" and you would know. These muslims have spread like plague in our country to eastern states Bengal, Assam, Nagaland and Southern states Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu.

"Tirupati" the world famous holy temple of Balaji. Congress pigs allowed for Madarsa(Islamic terrorist university preaching all sorts of terrorist principles) near the temple premises. Just imagine what would happen if a Hindu temple is built near mecca.

Brahmins who once constituted 95% of population have been driven out of Kashmir and the state has been infiltrated with Islamic population.

There has not been any effort left out to weaken Hinduism. Congress's divide and rule politics have been a bane to the country. All the socio economic problems are due to their divisive politics of weakening majority to divide the vote.

Forget development. Congress has been utterly corrupt and a total failure as a government with scams amounting to 25 lac crores INR.(25*10^12) in just the last ten years. Google various scams like "2g spectrum", "adarsh scam" etc.
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If you guys have so much passion for "secularism", you are all welcome to share your countries and homes with the sweet bangladesh muslims. We have had enough with the terrorist religion and pseudo secularism and want a free Hindu state.
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"Tirupati" the world famous holy temple of Balaji. Congress pigs allowed for Madarsa(Islamic terrorist university preaching all sorts of terrorist principles) near the temple premises. Just imagine what would happen if a Hindu temple is built near mecca.
You compare India to an immoderate country that imposes the ancient Sharia law, but your own attitudes are just as extreme and no different. You've shown you'd rather go backwards than forward in the 21st century. Next you'll want the heads of Indian women covered up, a revival of casteism, etc in the name of keeping the culture alive. Please let the country grow liberally. Really good for the people.

Grow up and deal with the fact that there are no strict cultural boundaries in the global age. Secularism is a good thing. It enables modernization and diminishes cultural homogenization. America and the top countries in Europe are founded on secular principles, which is why third-world citizens crowd up here, make their stash and head home.
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You compare India to an immoderate country that imposes the ancient Sharia law, but your own attitudes are just as extreme and no different. You've shown you'd rather go backwards than forward in the 21st century. Next you'll want the heads of Indian women covered up, a revival of casteism, etc in the name of keeping the culture alive. Please let the country grow liberally. Really good for the people.

Grow up and deal with the fact that there are no strict cultural boundaries in the global age. Secularism is a good thing. It enables modernization and diminishes cultural homogenization. America and the top countries in Europe are founded on secular principles, which is why third-world citizens crowd up here, make their stash and head home.
So according to your definition of secularism, it is a secular project to construct Islamic terrorism preaching schools in a country, let alone near a hindu temple.

Thank you very much for your "advanced" 21st century philosophies. We will keep our culture, you can keep your secularism.
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Development includes strengthening of cultural identity too. Development does not mean just dollars. But with no shortage of hindus like you in India, India would do very well to continue posing damage to her own roots even during BJP tenure. All hopes are on BJP and Sangh to set our nation on its original path which is Dharma. Their pre election campaigning is one thing, just a safe strategy. But I am sure they are determined to give Dharma the topmost priority and eliminate all the anti dharmic scum from the country.
Hindus like me? I am not an AAP supporter. I'm also not naive enough to think that Modi's recent distancing from the far right is anything more a political stunt. But, it is not a "safe strategy" either. It is IMO mainly to garner a strong coalition.

I do agree with the first line, but our cultural identity isn't in danger from the people you are referring to as "anti dharmic scum". The loss of our cultural identity is a very urban-Indian problem, caused mainly by westernization. An anti-minority sentiment isn't the right way forward.

Economic development should be (and hopefully is) the primary concern. Without question Hindutva will be an important point if(actually when is more appropriate) NaMo led BJP are in power. I just don't think it will take on as strong a form as you are portraying.

When it comes to foreign policy, yes Modi can potentially be great. To be honest, I think we are already started on the right track in the last 6 months or so.

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And how is bandwagoning Russia going to be different from bandwagoning the US? Neither will help the country's inner problems. India needs to focus more on its internal problems starting poverty, caste divisions, corruption in bureaucracy, employment, treatment of women, etc before it can even imagine anything close to real progress. Getting buildings and bridges made are embellishments, but they are skipping the core issues.
Actually, it is very different. The US bandwagoning is out of fear of a big bad political bully. On the other hand, the Russia bandwagoning is based on backing an ally with whom India has very strong economic ties. Huge difference!

As to the second part of your post, what? That is nothing short of ridiculous. You mean to say that focusing on economic progress is wrong, but we should still somehow focus on solving problems like poverty and employment. We should drop everything and focus on healing a caste divide which is prevalent much lesser than it was 60 years ago? You pretend as if these are India-specific problems which they are not. Is the Western world also "skipping the core issues" when they bother about economic prosperity as apposed to focusing solely on abolishing corruption and racism.
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So according to your definition of secularism, it is a secular project to construct Islamic terrorism preaching schools in a country, let alone near a hindu temple.

Thank you very much for your "advanced" 21st century philosophies. We will keep our culture, you can keep your secularism.
Where have I even hinted that? Can you think of people that are pro-tolerance and yet anti-terrorism? What you are resorting to is pure 'jihadi' approach towards all the muslims in general. How modern or cultural do you think it is to club all Muslims as terrorists? If you want a all-Hindu nation, you might as well want to get rid of the Christians and Jews in India too?

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As to the second part of your post, what? That is nothing short of ridiculous. You mean to say that focusing on economic progress is wrong, but we should still somehow focus on solving problems like poverty and employment. We should drop everything and focus on healing a caste divide which is prevalent much lesser than it was 60 years ago? You pretend as if these are India-specific problems which they are not. Is the Western world also "skipping the core issues" when they bother about economic prosperity as apposed to focusing solely on abolishing corruption and racism.
If find you more tolerant than the OP for sure. I am not saying focus on economic progress is wrong per se; I mean India's core problems are socio-economic in nature. I recently read somewhere that though the caste related issues have been "sorted" in "modern" India; when one actually looks at the figures, those employed in the better jobs are still the Brahmins, while the backward castes are given the worse, menial jobs. So creating steel & glass buildings in the metropolitans is a facade of progress if the real problems that lie below reveal a mentality that's as bad as racism. That's all I meant when I said focus on the real core issues such as education, women-empowerment, corruption in bureaucracy, etc before erecting buildings and bridges. Though I am not saying the latter is bad or not required. But the OP has taken Modi for a mascot to shape his own personal vendetta against other religions and "scums". India's greater than that!
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Where have I even hinted that? Can you think of people that are pro-tolerance and yet anti-terrorism? What you are resorting to is pure 'jihadi' approach towards all the muslims in general. How modern or cultural do you think it is to club all Muslims as terrorists? If you want a all-Hindu nation, you might as well want to get rid of the Christians and Jews in India too?


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Hindus like me? I am not an AAP supporter. I'm also not naive enough to think that Modi's recent distancing from the far right is anything more a political stunt. But, it is not a "safe strategy" either. It is IMO mainly to garner a strong coalition.

I do agree with the first line, but our cultural identity isn't in danger from the people you are referring to as "anti dharmic scum". The loss of our cultural identity is a very urban-Indian problem, caused mainly by westernization. An anti-minority sentiment isn't the right way forward.

Economic development should be (and hopefully is) the primary concern. Without question Hindutva will be an important point if(actually when is more appropriate) NaMo led BJP are in power. I just don't think it will take on as strong a form as you are portraying.

When it comes to foreign policy, yes Modi can potentially be great. To be honest, I think we are already started on the right track in the last 6 months or so.
Please. The whole world knows that the 1947 partition was a pro muslim step except our dumb "educated" hindus who are brainwashed by pseudo western theories like secularism and have absolutely no sense of preserving their original nationalist identity which is Dharma. Russia, Australia and Burma are not fools to stay firm AGAINST muslim wishes in their country. They know the potential threats posed by that religion.

Show me one country in the world with 50% muslim population that is secular. The thing is, there isn't one. Soon Muslim population in India is going to hit the 30% mark and that is significant enough to start demanding 30% of our country along with kashmir already.

While hindus continue to sleep thinking that India is a safe secular country, the west and muslims will work together to turn India into a complete sickular country with 28 mini pakistans, one in each state.

West shot themselves in the foot with stupidity like Secularism and other incorrect shit which is 2000 years old. They call it "modern". Now they want to see India collapse under the secular mask. It's up to the hindus to see the damage and react. Otherwise our succeeding generations are going to suffer.
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There is nothing to be pressed about US, a country whose economy is all set to run into abyss. With Modi ascending the throne many of their dreams will be shattered. Like the TAPI pipeline on which US has already spent billions of dollars. Modi would show cold shoulder to USA's proposal and would rather prefer diplomatic ties with Russia. You will see the strength of NaMo after the elections.

Pakistan, US and China are all afraid of Namo and the potential ground shattering Indo-Russian alliance.
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