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Old 09-30-2012, 08:19 PM   #76
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For all those haters who keep saying that the hype over Gasquet was never justified, let's put it that way:

Do you find it normal that a 18 years old player who is capable of playing like this (against peak Federer who had only lost to 3 other guys that year: Nadal, Safin and Nalbandian....not a bad company to be with for a teenager):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp6StHAeqZI

and this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxbiAHxRdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhDYx...feature=relmfu

couldn't even win an ATP 500, let alone MS and GSs in the following 7 years of his career??

The funny things is that i'm sure that among those haters, most of them were the same who were on Gasquet's bandwagon after MC 2005 and even at the end of 2006, especially after his amazing match against Hewitt at US Open and his great run at Toronto where he destroyed Berdych (who had beaten Nadal), Murray in 1/2 final and peak Federer for 1 set in final.

Gasquet deserves some hate(sportive hate of course, not pure hate) for having underachieved so much relatively to his obvious potential but to say he's been widely overrated from the beginning is wrong i think.
If you consider his level of play at 18 and add to that the incredible junior career he had (especially in term of precocity) and the fact he was the youngest player ever to win a MS match(against Squillari who was a RG 1/2 finalist or finalist, don't remember), it was VERY VERY VERY hard to not hype him as a future Grand Slam winner BACK THEN.

And nevertheless, 7 years later, the guy has yet to win even an ATP 500.....
Yeah, thanks...backs up my earlier post with some hard evidence here. Exactly: it's easy to write off Gasquet NOW and say he never had it in him to win majors. But all those posters - eg. TopSpin Doctor, Mark Lenders, etc - that claim he never had it in him, show me proof that you thought this back in 2005, after he had beaten Federer as an 18 year old, then take Nadal to a final set at Monte Carlo final, and I'll hail you as visionaries and great readers of the game. But if you're just saying it now...nah, not so much.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:49 PM   #77
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Yeah, thanks...backs up my earlier post with some hard evidence here. Exactly: it's easy to write off Gasquet NOW and say he never had it in him to win majors. But all those posters - eg. TopSpin Doctor, Mark Lenders, etc - that claim he never had it in him, show me proof that you thought this back in 2005, after he had beaten Federer as an 18 year old, then take Nadal to a final set at Monte Carlo final, and I'll hail you as visionaries and great readers of the game. But if you're just saying it now...nah, not so much.
And to make it even more "hilarious", i wouldn't be surprised if among those guys, there are many of them who are now on guys like Raonic's, Gulbis's or Tomic's bandwagons, predicting them Grand Slams in the future.
And this,despite the fact none of those guys have come close to show at 18 the level of play (i'm not even talking about results) Gasquet showed at this same age (ok, PERHAPS Gulbis a little bit).

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"Gasquet deserves some hate"

Fucking yuri27 idiot, crawl back to your fucking hole and do what you do the best : don't fucking post here, fucking dumbass.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #79
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Yeah, thanks...backs up my earlier post with some hard evidence here. Exactly: it's easy to write off Gasquet NOW and say he never had it in him to win majors. But all those posters - eg. TopSpin Doctor, Mark Lenders, etc - that claim he never had it in him, show me proof that you thought this back in 2005, after he had beaten Federer as an 18 year old, then take Nadal to a final set at Monte Carlo final, and I'll hail you as visionaries and great readers of the game. But if you're just saying it now...nah, not so much.
Back in 2005, people still didn't know the slams belong to the top 3.

Now even Berdych knows it.

Basically, in the current state of affairs, the smartest thing to do is to write off every newcomer, if you want to end up being correct most of the time.
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