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Old 12-14-2013, 12:12 AM   #1
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Default Rank ATP players by Elo rating system.

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Hi Everybody,

It's too cold outside & no tennis to watch until the end of the year so I did a small fun project to calculate all ATP players based on Elo Ranking System. Players' points are calculated based on all match results of Grand Slams back from 2010 and Master 1000s in 2013:

Initial point: 10,000
K factor:
24 x 4 (Grand Slams)
24 x 3 (Barclay Finals)
24 X 2 (Master 1000s)
24 x 1 (500)
24 x 0.5 (250)

After many late night, here's what I got:

(*this ranking include the latest Qatar, Brisbane & Auckland 2014 results)

1 Novak Djokovic 10,924 136 / 17
2 Rafael Nadal 10,918 123 / 11
3 Andy Murray 10,696 93 / 19
4 Stanislas Wawrinka 10,577 58 / 25
5 Roger Federer 10,539 95 / 23
6 Tomas Berdych 10,453 71 / 28
7 Juan Martin Del Potro 10,432 54 / 22
8 David Ferrer 10,429 81 / 28
9 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 10,416 64 / 21
10 Tommy Robredo 10,344 21 / 15
11 Mikhail Youzhny 10,341 43 / 25
12 Richard Gasquet 10,339 54 / 28
13 Robin Soderling 10,320 23 / 7
14 Milos Raonic 10,302 37 / 20
15 Mardy Fish 10,290 24 / 13
16 Tommy Haas 10,290 29 / 20
17 Andy Roddick 10,275 25 / 11
18 Lleyton Hewitt 10,266 26 / 17
19 Philipp Kohlschreiber 10,254 36 / 26
20 Marin Cilic 10,250 39 / 20


Djokovic and Nadal are only 7 points different at the top and a distance away from number 3, Murray. Ferrer moved up to number 7.


Full Rankings and match results can be found here:

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Please let me know what you guys think. :whistle:

Thanks,

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:58 AM   #2
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Default Re: Rank ATP players by Elo rating system.

Another poster did this as well and the system looks like an accurate representation of the tennis rankings.
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Yeah, I've read about this before. It's interesting as it could be applied across many different sports.
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Default Re: Rank ATP players by Elo rating system.

Seems like adding barclays skews things, why add it? Doesn't really represent all players, and indoors at that.
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Default Re: Rank ATP players by Elo rating system.

pointless, smaller events, especially Master's 1000's aren't irrelevant and big players sometimes miss big events. let the tournament wins and the ACTUAL rankings do the talking
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pointless, smaller events, especially Master's 1000's aren't irrelevant and big players sometimes miss big events. let the tournament wins and the ACTUAL rankings do the talking
Agree with you and I am putting results from more events like 1000's and 500's too.
Elo rating system actually is more accurate on ranking player ability than the actual rankings if there's enough samples.
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Check this thread out:
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ranking UPDATED:

After many late nights, here's what I got after adding all Master 1000 results:
1 Novak Djokovic 10,919 59 / 9
2 Rafael Nadal 10,760 53 / 5
3 Stanislas Wawrinka 10,513 30 / 13
4 Roger Federer 10,497 29 / 12
5 Andy Murray 10,431 32 / 7
6 Juan Martin Del Potro 10,373 25 / 13
7 Tomas Berdych 10,361 34 / 16
8 David Ferrer 10,304 32 / 15
9 Tommy Robredo 10,290 14 / 8
10 Gael Monfils 10,278 8 / 5
11 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 10,272 23 / 10
12 Milos Raonic 10,260 23 / 12
13 John Isner 10,257 14 / 11
14 Richard Gasquet 10,257 27 / 16
15 Philipp Kohlschreiber 10,225 15 / 12
16 Kei Nishikori 10,216 21 / 12
17 Florian Mayer 10,213 11 / 11
18 Marcel Granollers 10,204 11 / 13
19 Tommy Haas 10,193 22 / 11
20 Feliciano Lopez 10,177 11 / 11

Please let me know what you guys think
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Overrated Federer quite badly, underrates Ferrer a bit
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Very interesting. Good job!
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Overrated Federer quite badly, underrates Ferrer a bit
Agree. This list is actually the ranking "at the moment", not the entire 2013 year.

The main reason Fed got number 4 is that he won 5 out of the last 8 matches. He beat strong opponents like Del Potro (twice) and Gasquet. He lost twice to Djokovic and once to Nadal who had much more points than he did at the time.

On the other hand, Ferrer lost all of his last 4 matches ended up number 8.

Fed results:
http://www.opentennisworld.com/users/roger-federer

Ferrer latest results:
http://www.opentennisworld.com/users/david-ferrer
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This is why we don't put the chess ranking system in tennis. Cause it's stupid. But great effort, nontheless
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So pointless.
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This is why we don't put the chess ranking system in tennis. Cause it's stupid. But great effort, nontheless
Yes. Chess grandmasters are more stupid than tennis masters.
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How do you compensate for different surfaces?
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