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Old 04-21-2005, 12:40 PM   #61
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Yes, his comebacks against Moya and Rusedski were the two biggest because it was not only a first round, but these happened in the round of last 16.

Todd Martin's 9 comebacks were:

Australian Open 1999, R128, (15) Martin def. Meligeni 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-4 6-1
Australian Open 2000, R128, (8) Martin def. Black 5-7 6-7(4) 6-4 6-2 8-6
Australian Open 2004, R128, Martin def. Dupuis 4-6 4-6 7-6(5) 7-6(4) 6-3
Wimbledon 1999, R128, (8) Martin def. Dreekmann 6-7(6) 6-7(5) 6-3 6-2 6-3
Wimbledon 2001, R64, (23) Martin def. Novak 6-7(3) 2-6 6-4 6-4 6-4
US Open 1993, R128, Martin def. Burillo 5-7 4-6 6-1 6-3 6-2
US Open 1994, R128, (9) Martin def. Raoux 6-7(4) 4-6 6-3 6-4 7-6(1)
US Open 1999, R16, (7) Martin def. Rusedski (9) 5-7 0-6 7-6(3) 6-4 6-4
US Open 2000, R16, Martin def. Moya 6-7(3) 6-7(7) 6-1 7-6(6) 6-2


Overall, Todd Martin was quite a hard worker and a marathon guy who didn't mind going the distance. Not only that he managed to win these 9 matches, but also his overall 5 set record is quite impressive and not too shabby. Through his career, "The Senator" has 39 five set matches under his belt and he managed to win 23 (59%) of them.
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:35 PM   #62
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Yes, his comebacks against Moya and Rusedski were the two biggest because it was not only a first round, but these happened in the round of last 16.

Todd Martin's 9 comebacks were:

Australian Open 1999, R128, (15) Martin def. Meligeni 3-6 4-6 6-3 6-4 6-1
Australian Open 2000, R128, (8) Martin def. Black 5-7 6-7(4) 6-4 6-2 8-6
Australian Open 2004, R128, Martin def. Dupuis 4-6 4-6 7-6(5) 7-6(4) 6-3
Wimbledon 1999, R128, (8) Martin def. Dreekmann 6-7(6) 6-7(5) 6-3 6-2 6-3
Wimbledon 2001, R64, (23) Martin def. Novak 6-7(3) 2-6 6-4 6-4 6-4
US Open 1993, R128, Martin def. Burillo 5-7 4-6 6-1 6-3 6-2
US Open 1994, R128, (9) Martin def. Raoux 6-7(4) 4-6 6-3 6-4 7-6(1)
US Open 1999, R16, (7) Martin def. Rusedski (9) 5-7 0-6 7-6(3) 6-4 6-4
US Open 2000, R16, Martin def. Moya 6-7(3) 6-7(7) 6-1 7-6(6) 6-2


Overall, Todd Martin was quite a hard worker and a marathon guy who didn't mind going the distance. Not only that he managed to win these 9 matches, but also his overall 5 set record is quite impressive and not too shabby. Through his career, "The Senator" has 39 five set matches under his belt and he managed to win 23 (59%) of them.

Thanks a lot. I wish I could find a way to get some of these matches. I remember watching his 03 US Open match against Ferrero where he was down 2 sets, won the next 2, but then was down a break in the 5th and b/c of his good record I thought he'd come back, but he had some bad luck trying to break at 5-3. I still can't figure out why he played so many 5 set matches.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:25 PM   #63
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Kiefer today against Stepanek with his 4th comeback from a 0-2 set deficit.
(The third won five set match in a row and the second comeback from 0-2 sets this year)
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Kiefer today against Stepanek with his 4th comeback from a 0-2 set deficit.
(The third won five set match in a row and the second comeback from 0-2 sets this year)
But it was the first time against a solid player. I think the others were all outside the top 100.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:09 AM   #65
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With today's comeback from two sets down, Agassi should be at 6 now
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costa did a string of comebacks in the FO'03 am i right?
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costa did a string of comebacks in the FO'03 am i right?
Correct. Three comebacks from 0-2 sets and an overall of four five setters on his way to the semifinal. Not too shabby...
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:55 PM   #68
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No real reason for me to bump this thread, except to point out a top player from the past with a rather bad habit of losing from two sets to love up:

Davis Cup 70
Vilas lost to Cornejo, P. (CHI)
6-3, 6-0, 2-6, 2-6, 2-6

RG 72, R16
Vilas lost to Solomon, H. (USA)
6-3, 10-8, 2-6, 4-6, 4-6

Buenos Aires 72, F
Vilas lost to Meiler, K. (GER)
7-6, 6-2, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6

Rome 74, S
Vilas lost to Borg, B. (SWE)
6-2, 6-3, 3-6, 4-6, 5-7

Roland Garros 74, R32
Vilas lost to Orantes, M. (ESP)
6-3, 6-3, 6-7, 3-6, 2-6

US Open 75, S
Vilas lost to Orantes, M. (ESP)
6-4, 6-1, 2-6, 5-7, 4-6

Wimbledon 83, R128
Vilas lost to Odizor, N. (NGR)
6-3, 7-5, 6-7, 5-7, 2-6


Seven times in all, and the first one there was his very first professional match, if the ITF database is to be believed. Likewise, the match he lost against Meiler was the final of his home tournament, where he was to completely dominate in later years...
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Great read Neely. i would good rep you but I have to pass it around first. The ont thing that really jumps out at me is that Lendl led oppoents 2-0 in sets at Slams ess times than did Edberg. I would never have guessed that.
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Hrbaty should be at 5 now since he defeated Marach from 2 sets down at the AO this year.
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Interesting. Three greats of the era, Lendl, Wilander and Edberg, are missing. I would have thought that at least Mats would be on the list.
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Interesting. Three greats of the era, Lendl, Wilander and Edberg, are missing. I would have thought that at least Mats would be on the list.
Mats was 26-14 in 5 setters, but I think he was quite even in the way he played.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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update for the current players who could win after a 0-2 set deficit, minimum 3:

6 times:
Agassi

5 times:
Hrbaty
Kiefer

4 times:
Henman
Kuerten
Lapentti, Nicolas
Moya
Nalbandian
Sargsian

3 times:
Clément
Gonzalez
Johansson, Thomas
Koubek
Ljubicic
Malisse
Novak
Philippoussis
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(matches won by retirement after a 0-2 set deficit do only count if the retirement occured in the 5th set)
Inaccurate. Count them all or better don't count them.
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Inaccurate.
Not true, there are only very few matches during the last 25 years in which a player leading 2-0 sets retired in the third or fourth set.

Applying this rule would not change a lot, Costa and Mansdorff would have one more comeback, Ramesh Krishnan and Brett Stevens would be new in the list with 4 comebacks.
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