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Old 09-21-2013, 11:35 PM   #1681
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I'm in favor of anything that would stop WindRay from adding to his slam count.
What's your big gripe with The Tradesman ?

He is good for the game.

Not his fault Djokovic and Berdych are worse in the wind than he is.

Murray isn't even a good wind player.

Baldull is.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #1682
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All the slams should be played indoors and at 23C.

Controlled environments.

Weather is the devil.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:49 PM   #1684
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Why do you guys want a slam that a servebot can win anyway? You really want Raonic or Karlovic winning a slam?
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:53 PM   #1686
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Plenty of statements from tournament directors discussing their experimenting with court and ball changes to slow down the game, statements from various players on both tours, and of course personal observations and interactions with courts.

The numbers don't exist, not our faults as none of us have the resources to quantify these things. That's up to the ATP/ITF, and they obviously do a poor job at it.
Why do you want the courts faster? Do you want guys like Raonic and Karlovic winning slams? Because if you make the courts fast enough, they would. They have some of the best serve numbers in the game. Both guys have sub 20% return numbers though (Karlovic is 6% on hard courts, which is so bad I don't have an appropriate adjective).

These guys would win big tournaments on lightning fast courts.
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Why do you guys want a slam that a servebot can win anyway? You really want Raonic or Karlovic winning a slam?
As long as it's not Nadal. Problem in this forum clearly is the fact that glory hunters from two of the biggest tennis fanbases, DJoker and Fed fans fear Nadal's dominance. Admitting to that fact or not, their petty threads show it everyday.

I really have no say on this. Unless some forum trolls with righteous power overtake the ATP and demand change......the world could care less about their cries Mind you, you can't negotiate with irrationals, much less ignorants.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:08 AM   #1688
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As long as it's not Nadal. Problem in this forum clearly is the fact that glory hunters from two of the biggest tennis fanbases, DJoker and Fed fans fear Nadal's dominance. Admitting to that fact or not, their petty threads show it everyday.

I really have no say on this. Unless some forum trolls with righteous power overtake the ATP and demand change......the world could care less about their cries Mind you, you can't negotiate with irrationals, much less ignorants.
That's really the crux of it I think.
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Why do you want the courts faster? Do you want guys like Raonic and Karlovic winning slams? Because if you make the courts fast enough, they would. They have some of the best serve numbers in the game. Both guys have sub 20% return numbers though (Karlovic is 6% on hard courts, which is so bad I don't have an appropriate adjective).

These guys would win big tournaments on lightning fast courts.
This argument is so shit. Raonic and Karlovic wouldn't even win slams on early '90s grass. Even the biggest servebots of the '90s (Stich, Ivanisevic) were far more complete players than either of those guys.

Nobody is arguing for those sorts of courtspeeds anyway. People just want a return to the surfaces of 9-10 years ago, where you actually had variety. Servebots didn't dominate the USO and Wimbledon in the early '00s.

I have no idea why people think that wanting the courts quicker than their current molasses speed means you want ice rinks that people serve their way to victory on.
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I hate servebotting, and 1-2 rally points, and even I can recognize that the courts are too slow/high-bouncing now. Anyone who has a pair of eyes can see that.
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:04 AM   #1691
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I hate servebotting, and 1-2 rally points, and even I can recognize that the courts are too slow/high-bouncing now. Anyone who has a pair of eyes can see that.
This is such a complete exaggeration. I've watched old matches. Hell, I grew up watching tennis in the 90's. You guys are so hyper focused on your hatred of Nadal, that all you can do is look for excuses and reasons why he is winning.

It's so completely predictable how you all trumpet this same bullshit. Nadal sweeps the HC masters and the USO, and clearly the courts must be dirt slow. Maybe Nadal just figured out how to play on fast courts? Did you consider that option?
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This is such a complete exaggeration. I've watched old matches. Hell, I grew up watching tennis in the 90's. You guys are so hyper focused on your hatred of Nadal, that all you can do is look for excuses and reasons why he is winning.

It's so completely predictable how you all trumpet this same bullshit. Nadal sweeps the HC masters and the USO, and clearly the courts must be dirt slow. Maybe Nadal just figured out how to play on fast courts? Did you consider that option?
They are blinded by hate so what can you expect. Last year Cincinnati was actually fast and suddenly this year became "slow", just like any other tournament that Nadal wins.

The fact is that since Roddick in 2003 no other player has done this, even these so called hard court specialist, and that is pretty much what is driving their haters nuts
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They are blinded by hate so what can you expect. Last year Cincinnati was actually fast and suddenly this year became "slow", just like any other tournament that Nadal wins.

The fact is that since Roddick in 2003 no other player has done this, even these so called hard court specialist, and that is pretty much what is driving their haters nuts
It's somewhat entertaining even watching them degenerate every time Nadal wins something else and of course extremely obvious that they reason backwards from results to their premises in a very silly manner.
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Erm. This thread was started 3.5 years ago, before Nadal even won his first USO.

It is hard for Rafatards to understand, but sometimes people hold opinions that have nothing to do with loving X player or hating Y player.
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Erm. This thread was started 3.5 years ago, before Nadal even won his first USO.

It is hard for Rafatards to understand, but sometimes people hold opinions that have nothing to do with loving X player or hating Y player.
I think it's even harder for YOU to understand actually. Nadal came up with the first few posts in fact even before he won the USO and the thread has gone on as long as it has in large part due to the obsession with Nadal and the "good old days."
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