Originally Posted by Kat_YYZ
you think kids today aren't free to play?
those lazy, spoiled fat-asses? They do nothing but play. The parents have to reward them to get them to clean their rooms -- 200 years ago those parents would have beaten them if they didn't clean the whole house.
Childhood is a modern concept. Children used to work. In the fields, in the factories, crawling through coal mine tunnels and chimneys. Farmers didn't have big families so they could watch children "play" -- they needed the labour to work the fields.
Ignorance of history beyond belief here.
Truth is hard to hear and your post is barely coherent if I may say so but understandable and you bring an interesting point. Parents reward (and punish) children as a form of control and control is completely counter intuitive to play. So what you may think is play is really not. Play is simply an activity where one engages completely freely and stops freely when they are tired or feel unequal or feel threatened. Today's world is all about authority, unequality and threats, particularly school and work and those things are expanding even more. Despite or because of technology, school hours and work hours are expanding while leisure time is minimized. People are fitted into someone elses world vision of them and in such a world there is no time to play and explore and make yourself autonomous and connected and equal.
Children and adults to some extent, play just like all the mammals. It's not a hobby but a requirement and the only way to learn long term skills. School and work today teach short term , dubious or outright anti social skills but nothing long term. I see it also when I see old people who look completely alone and without purpose.
Children hate school because they are not free to play and explore on their own and are completely controlled by authority. Most people who are honest hate their job. Play is seen as a waste of time or recreation or even laziness. Children are forced to learn things that they would forget if that wasn't the only thing that they must know. Hence children today don't know the basic skills that they would learn through play while their knowledge of the world is increasingly specialized, reduced and not connected to their environment.
What does this have to do with the subject? Well , if there is no play and it is severely curtailed as it is today, people don't learn how to survive on their own , how to control themselves, how to be independent and how to attach themselves to others. Homosexuality is one of the obvious consensquences of such a society.